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Posted: **Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:40 am**

s.xkitten wrote:
vtmarik wrote:Another alarming statistic:

With most teenage pregnancies, the father is a successful male over the age of 30.

that is wrong...so incredibly wrong...

I was under the impression that wit most US teen pregnancies the father was the father...

Posted: **Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:10 pm**

vtmarik wrote:With most teenage pregnancies, the father is a successful male over the age of 30.

LINK??

Posted: **Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:17 pm**

btownmeggy wrote:
vtmarik wrote:With most teenage pregnancies, the father is a successful male over the age of 30.

LINK??

Unable to find it at this time, considering that I'm at work.

There's a book by Mike A. Males that you may want to take a look at, your local library may have access to a copy, it's called Framing Youth: Ten Myths About the Next Generation. That's where I read that statistic.

Take a look at Scapegoat Generation as well. Interesting stuff.

Posted: **Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:29 pm**

2dimes wrote:
bedub1 wrote:A school district in Maine - United States has started offering birth control, mainly "the pill" to students in 6th through 8th grades, and will not be required to tell the parents about it.

Don't worry, Jay won't know his daughter's on the pill.

Now I know that I've been a hothead as of late and I apologized for it. But is stuff like this really necessary? Leave people's family out of your insults for crying out loud.

Posted: **Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:30 pm**

btownmeggy wrote:
xtratabasco wrote:like I said before, most of us here are probably middle or upper class white trash (at least in this discussion)

have you ever been to a slum area or the hood?

how would your advice work there?

with the medium income for a famly in the US at under 30k I dont think your advice means shit to most people.

but I digress, maybe your just talking to Jay.

What are you talking about? Can you please explain how what I said has to do with income so that I can respond accordingly?

I guess I was implying that I dont think its the age that matters as much as the economic situation of the family.

I dont think this senero would play out the same as say Aspen Colorado and getto street LA or in the deep south.

Posted: **Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:03 pm**

Actually, it doesn't matter that much.
Sure, there are more teenage pregnancies in poorer areas, but I think that has more to do with them using less protection.

Posted: **Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:11 pm**

s.xkitten wrote:
vtmarik wrote:
Koesen wrote:Haven't read the entire thread, only the first and last pages, so maybe what I say has been said before. With that caveat:

To all those saying getting young girls on the pill is horrible, I say that getting them pregnant is worse.

Face it: the US has the highest teenage pregnancy rate of the industrialized world. It's almost nine times as high as the rate in my country of birth, the Netherlands, four times as high as the EU average and 2.5 times that of Canada.

The US are also, by my standards, an absurdly puritanical country, where girls can either be saints or sluts and where the government does its best to reduce sex education to "just don't do it".

When it comes to morals, the US talk the talk but they don't walk the walk. Is it wrong that 10-14 year olds have sex? I think so, but saying that is not enough to prevent it. When it comes to preaching values, nobody beats the US, but when it comes to the actual prevention, you guys fail on a monumental scale.

In that situation, the only way to turn the tide may just be to simply give all girls the pill. It's not a solution, but it reduces the problem at least a bit.

My apologies to all Americans to whom the above does not apply. I don't generally like to use blanket statements, but with a number of exceptions the American people as a whole should really get their head out of their ass and face reality. Not that they're going to, of course.

Another alarming statistic:

With most teenage pregnancies, the father is a successful male over the age of 30.

that is wrong...so incredibly wrong...

Then why did it feel so right?

This is a joke. I am not a successful male.

Posted: **Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:13 pm**

I should stop wearing them banana flavoured condoms....it really does encourage them.

Posted: **Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:49 pm**

guys have gotten smarter girls have gotten dumber. prove is that we get more ass and they get pregnat more often.

ive been getting laid since i was 13(sixteen now)(never gotten anyone pregnat) and its not the parent's fault. girls seriously just got hornier! ud be surprised at the things a 15-16 year old would do. i feel bad for all u that are too old to have underage sex! HA you guys suck :wink:

Posted: **Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:54 pm**

You're never too old....it just becomes illegal.

Besides, I like my mama's with a nice meaty arse, and they get dirtier when they hit the 25+ mark.

Posted: **Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:04 pm**

Norse wrote:You're never too old....it just becomes illegal.

Besides, I like my mama's with a nice meaty arse, and they get dirtier when they hit the 25+ mark.

yea and wen its illegal u just move to the netherlands :wink:

and age doesn matter. girls my age look just as good as 25 year olds. with tighter asses lol

Posted: **Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:06 pm**

edwinissweet wrote:
Norse wrote:You're never too old....it just becomes illegal.

Besides, I like my mama's with a nice meaty arse, and they get dirtier when they hit the 25+ mark.

yea and wen its illegal u just move to the netherlands

Nah, it's 16 years here.

Posted: **Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:48 pm**

I'm reminded of when Minnesota reinstated parental notification laws for abortion and teen pregnancy rates dropped by 27%. Clearly the teens knew that sex leads to pregnancy and probably cut out the sex or practiced it more safely.

The biggest deterrent of teen pregnancy is pregnancy itself. You don't want your kid to have sex? Don't give them a way out of dealing with the consequences.

http://abortionfacts.com/online_books/l ... oth_28.asp

Posted: **Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:53 pm**

yardstickWHACK wrote:I'm reminded of when Minnesota reinstated parental notification laws for abortion and teen pregnancy rates dropped by 27%. Clearly the teens knew that sex leads to pregnancy and probably cut out the sex or practiced it more safely.

The biggest deterrent of teen pregnancy is pregnancy itself. You don't want your kid to have sex? Don't give them a way out of dealing with the consequences.

http://abortionfacts.com/online_books/l ... oth_28.asp

i dont know for sure i want to debate the veracity of the source, but anytime someone decides to claim an industry used someones death to turn an agenda, you question whether or not they are clearly looking at the issue. Beckys case seems to have conflicting information on both sides of the issue.

However, that fall in number of cases is a really good sign. If results like that could be replicated it woudl certainly be worth looking at, judging if there werent other factors to consider it as a policy.

Posted: **Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:58 pm**

got tonkaed wrote:
yardstickWHACK wrote:I'm reminded of when Minnesota reinstated parental notification laws for abortion and teen pregnancy rates dropped by 27%. Clearly the teens knew that sex leads to pregnancy and probably cut out the sex or practiced it more safely.

The biggest deterrent of teen pregnancy is pregnancy itself. You don't want your kid to have sex? Don't give them a way out of dealing with the consequences.

http://abortionfacts.com/online_books/l ... oth_28.asp

i dont know for sure i want to debate the veracity of the source, but anytime someone decides to claim an industry used someones death to turn an agenda, you question whether or not they are clearly looking at the issue. Beckys case seems to have conflicting information on both sides of the issue.

However, that fall in number of cases is a really good sign. If results like that could be replicated it woudl certainly be worth looking at, judging if there werent other factors to consider it as a policy.

Yeah, I did not want to bring in the thing about Becky. Just the numbers, which I also verified on a US health statistics website.

Posted: **Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:14 pm**

the numbers should be seen by both sides as a good thing, since in theory we all should want less teen pregnancy. Im not sure they will be interpreted as such, and im sure theres more taht could be looked into as far as factors, but people should be hopeful that there may be something helping to lower teen pregnancy.

Im not 100 percent sold on the relevaling of information yet, becuase its one study and potentially problematic, but its still worth exploring by different groups id think.

Posted: **Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:22 pm**

got tonkaed wrote:you sound just like my mother...lol no offense of course, i love her and value her opinion a lot.

Look both ways before you cross the street! Don't talk with your mouth open! Don't swim for at least an hour after you eat!

Sorry, couldn't resist. :wink:

Posted: **Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:52 pm**

the last one is a myth...just thought i'd point that out

Posted: **Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:32 pm**

It's hard not to talk with my mouth open

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