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Re: "Refugee" Crisis - Looks like invasion

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 6:56 pm
by GoranZ
betiko wrote:
GoranZ wrote:Macedonia struggles with migrants wanting to enter EU, and it seems like the situation is deteriorating every day.

Greece capacities were overwhelmed last week, Macedonia suffer the same faith this week, most likely next week it will be Serbia's turn. A month or two after that EU's.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34008867

The irony to be bigger this is only the beginning...


That was your best oportunity to have a more decent amount of population since you guys are so tiny!

We don't need Arabs to breed with our women, maybe you guys need.

When we are at France and Islam there is one interesting article.
Islamization of Paris a Warning to the West

Re: "Refugee" Crisis - Looks like invasion

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:26 pm
by mrswdk
So what's up with the Muslim no go zones in Paris eh

Re: "Refugee" Crisis - Looks like invasion

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:25 am
by GoranZ
mrswdk wrote:So what's up with the Muslim no go zones in Paris eh

Simple... French country French rules, if you dont like it get a f*ck out ;)

Re: "Refugee" Crisis - Looks like invasion

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:26 am
by smegal69
it is easy to stop,
Australia is spending $8 in bombs for every $1 they spend in aid for the refugees...... maybe if they had more than 45cents a day to live on they would not be fleeing the Refugee camps around Syria.

also if other countries were not profiteering from flooding the region with weapons and ammo they would not be shooting so much as each other.

there are two different kinds of refugees making there way to Europe, ones that are fleeing for there lives from war zones and then Economical ones that are trying to escape from poverty, until the world can sort out the refugee's from war torn regions maybe it is about time that economic refugee's were put on a plane and sent back to there countries,

you think we would have learned from history by now, but we must be the stupids smart animal on this planet..... make me think that sometimes this planet would be better if we just wiped ourselves out

we are all humans, no matter what colour your skin is or what religion you have or what sexual preference you have , about time we treated everyone with the same respect that we would want them to be treated us with.

Re: "Refugee" Crisis - Looks like invasion

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:56 am
by waauw
smegal69 wrote:there are two different kinds of refugees making there way to Europe, ones that are fleeing for there lives from war zones and then Economical ones that are trying to escape from poverty, until the world can sort out the refugee's from war torn regions maybe it is about time that economic refugee's were put on a plane and sent back to there countries,


The economic refugees are already being flown back to their own country. People from southern Iraq for instance aren't admitted assylum.

Re: "Refugee" Crisis - Looks like invasion

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:00 am
by GoranZ
smegal69 wrote:we are all humans, no matter what colour your skin is or what religion you have or what sexual preference you have , about time we treated everyone with the same respect that we would want them to be treated us with.

You think this will work if you are ISIS hostage? I highly doubt.
But I'm sure you will change your mind few seconds before ISIS blade cut your throat.

Re: "Refugee" Crisis - Looks like invasion

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:23 am
by subtleknifewield
GoranZ wrote:
smegal69 wrote:we are all humans, no matter what colour your skin is or what religion you have or what sexual preference you have , about time we treated everyone with the same respect that we would want them to be treated us with.

You think this will work if you are ISIS hostage? I highly doubt.
But I'm sure you will change your mind few seconds before ISIS blade cut your throat.

It was a complaint to the idea of violence in general. He wasn't saying not to stop ISIS, obviously they are doing terrible things.

He also does have a point about the war profiteering only making all this worse.

Humans, as a general rule, are really bad at gauging their own long-term self-interest as opposed to short-term self-interest.

Re: "Refugee" Crisis - Looks like invasion

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 1:15 am
by smegal69
GoranZ wrote:
smegal69 wrote:we are all humans, no matter what colour your skin is or what religion you have or what sexual preference you have , about time we treated everyone with the same respect that we would want them to be treated us with.

You think this will work if you are ISIS hostage? I highly doubt.
But I'm sure you will change your mind few seconds before ISIS blade cut your throat.


And are the Air strikes stopping ISIS, If the west was serious about stopping ISIS it would be as easy as flooding the region with tanks drive them south to north and taking everything that moves with a black flag then letting the Iraqi army/Kurds/and other friendly local gun welding gang bangers

Re: "Refugee" Crisis - Looks like invasion

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:05 am
by warmonger1981
True. If America wanted to get rid of ISIS it wouldn't be a problem. America is letting this happen. If America is trying to kill ISIS and we can't then China and Russia should have no problem kicking our ass.

Re: "Refugee" Crisis - Looks like invasion

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:59 am
by GoranZ
warmonger1981 wrote:True. If America wanted to get rid of ISIS it wouldn't be a problem. America is letting this happen. If America is trying to kill ISIS and we can't then China and Russia should have no problem kicking our ass.

ISIS is US creation :lol:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation- ... 22882.html

P.S. Russia and China will kick US ass no matter what ISIS does, its only a matter of time ;)

Re: "Refugee" Crisis - Looks like invasion

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:52 pm
by subtleknifewield
GoranZ wrote:
warmonger1981 wrote:True. If America wanted to get rid of ISIS it wouldn't be a problem. America is letting this happen. If America is trying to kill ISIS and we can't then China and Russia should have no problem kicking our ass.

ISIS is US creation :lol:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation- ... 22882.html

P.S. Russia and China will kick US ass no matter what ISIS does, its only a matter of time ;)

Yeah, I doubt that, Russia and China are not friends.

Besides, China doesn't have to invade the US, they own a significant portion of our national debt, they wield economic power.

Re: "Refugee" Crisis - Looks like invasion

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:37 pm
by warmonger1981
I know US created ISIS but most people won't believe it. Even with given facts.

China and Russia seem to be teaming up.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... mTgkVlucXw

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... 3CFzaKCk5g

Re: "Refugee" Crisis - Looks like invasion

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:40 pm
by AndyDufresne
warmonger1981 wrote:I know US created ISIS but most people won't believe it. Even with given facts.

China and Russia seem to be teaming up.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... mTgkVlucXw

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... 3CFzaKCk5g


Nah. Russia wants China's friendship, but China is too wary of getting bogged down by Russia's blustery bumbling factor I think. Ask Mrswdk or Macbone.


--Andy

Re: "Refugee" Crisis - Looks like invasion

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:45 pm
by warmonger1981

Re: "Refugee" Crisis - Looks like invasion

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:04 am
by subtleknifewield
Or what? You seem to have meant to put a second link but forgot to paste it.

Re: "Refugee" Crisis - Looks like invasion

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 6:15 am
by Dukasaur
warmonger1981 wrote:I know US created ISIS but most people won't believe it. Even with given facts.

I think most people know it, but they just don't care. It's become a tediously repetitive story that just isn't news any more. CIA funds crazy rebel leader. Crazy rebel leader becomes the government and realizes he doesn't need to obey the CIA any more. U.S. government spends billions removing its own creation from office. Sometimes I think American taxpayers would save a lot of money if they just made Mary Shelley's Frankenstein required reading for all prospective intelligence agents.

Hell, they did it twice in Vietnam, first with the Diem government and then with Nguyen Cao Ky. Remember Rafael Trujillo? Noriega? Sese Seko? Diego Murillo in Colombia? The Zetas in Mexico. Mobutu in the Congo! Oh yeah, and some dude named bin Laden.

Re: "Refugee" Crisis - Looks like invasion

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 6:21 am
by subtleknifewield
Also let's not forget what we did to Panama just to get a quicker route between the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans, or in Cuba.

Re: "Refugee" Crisis - Looks like invasion

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:22 pm
by GoranZ
Surprise surprise, Syrian refugee tripped by Hungarian journalist was member of radical al-Nusra Front.

https://www.rt.com/news/316124-refugee- ... -militant/

Seems like Europe will get more terrorists than refugees :shock:

Re: "Refugee" Crisis - Looks like invasion

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:57 pm
by AndyDufresne
GoranZ wrote:**foams at the mouth**


Image


--Andy

Re: "Refugee" Crisis - Looks like invasion

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 3:54 pm
by GoranZ
AndyDufresne wrote:
GoranZ wrote:**foams at the mouth**


Image


--Andy


If you dont have anything to add why you hijack my thread you fucking imbecile.

Re: "Refugee" Crisis - Looks like invasion

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 4:04 pm
by subtleknifewield
GoranZ wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:
GoranZ wrote:**foams at the mouth**


Image


--Andy


If you dont have anything to add why you hijack my thread you fucking imbecile.

I think you are missing the point, the pic IS a commentary. :P

After all, a picture is worth a thousand words.

Re: "Refugee" Crisis - Looks like invasion

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 4:05 pm
by subtleknifewield
GoranZ wrote:Surprise surprise, Syrian refugee tripped by Hungarian journalist was member of radical al-Nusra Front.

https://www.rt.com/news/316124-refugee- ... -militant/

Seems like Europe will get more terrorists than refugees :shock:

Oh no, one person out of hundreds of thousands is a terrorist.

THEY MUST ALL BE TERRORISTS!

Re: "Refugee" Crisis - Looks like invasion

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:37 am
by waauw
The russians are planning to bomb ISIS themselves. =D>

Re: "Refugee" Crisis - Looks like invasion

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:14 am
by muy_thaiguy
waauw wrote:The russians are planning to bomb ISIS themselves. =D>

Yeah, it's not like the US, NATO, and Saudi forces have been doing it for months and Kurdish forces on the ground since the beginning or anything. :D
And it's not like Russia is only doing it to protect a rusting out port that Syria has let them use since the USSR disbanded. :D

Re: "Refugee" Crisis - Looks like invasion

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:20 pm
by waauw
muy_thaiguy wrote:
waauw wrote:The russians are planning to bomb ISIS themselves. =D>

Yeah, it's not like the US, NATO, and Saudi forces have been doing it for months and Kurdish forces on the ground since the beginning or anything. :D
And it's not like Russia is only doing it to protect a rusting out port that Syria has let them use since the USSR disbanded. :D


As some people in this topic already pointed out, Nato is doing just enough to keep the fighting going but insufficient to balance the scales to one side.
And what does it matter that Russia wants to protect their port, if they want to use that as a motivation to destroy ISIS, then that's fine by me. ISIS is a bigger threat than Assad or Russia. At least the latter can be reasoned with.