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• Will eliminate the targeting of high ranked players in terminator games. could be turned off for high ranks who think it will provide more of a chalenge
• Only reasonably applicable if a system is set up to tell you before you accidently join the game of a foe.

Mr_Adams wrote:Now, I thought this had been suggested, but I couldn't find it.

• Hide the rank of the players while in game

• Numerous time I have been the subject of an alliance between high ranked players, simply because they dont want to lose to me as that will mean a more significant points loss for them.
• This is an instance of the 'meta-game' of the site rankings impacting on the actual games being played, something which I feel is undesirable. The points and ranks are great fun, but when as a lower ranked player, doing well in a tournament, you become the target in a 3-way stalemate simply because your opponents dont want to loose to a lower ranked player the meta-game is impacting in a quite negative way on the real game.
• Obviously anyone could look up your character sheet and see your rank, however I think that having it that one step removed would greatly reduce the likelihood of this occurring.

• Players would never be the target of alliances due to their rank in the meta-game, something that can be frustrating, and certainly has a negative impact on games.

Molwen wrote:Obviously anyone could look up your character sheet and see your rank, however I think that having it that one step removed would greatly reduce the likelihood of this occurring.

jaimito101 wrote:

Molwen wrote:Obviously anyone could look up your character sheet and see your rank, however I think that having it that one step removed would greatly reduce the likelihood of this occurring.

If people, as you say find i important not to loose points, they will still look you up, or they will state in game chat that they have a high rank themselves. I think this wouldn't fix anything but add to the hassle for the rest of the players. people want to know what kind of player they are facing and how many points they will loose. I agree it is not sportmanshiplike to gang up on the player with the lowest rank... but then i guess your best solution would be to foe them, or point them on their lack of sportsmanship.

BoganGod wrote:This could be useful. I don't play much or any public standard, or terminator as people love playing hit the hat or the brig, will suicide and ruin the game for both of us. Pity as I used to enjoy playing those games.

wolfpack0530 wrote:Molwen, I have seen it go both ways. In stalemates, the higher ranks would rather not lose huge points when they can lose a smaller amount. I have seen them gang up on the weaker player so-as not to lose to them.

I have also seen the high ranker get ganged up on by being perceived as "too good". i suppose that these cases happen, and they happen often enough to be noticable, but i would still say that this happens a minority of the time.

I kindof think that it tends to even out a bit, but i also avoid certain games now. i can spot a game before i even join it and be pretty sure that i will get ganged up on and have little chance of winning, so i will avoid that game.

For instance, I am in an AOR2 1v1 tourney and am doing quite well. However i was matched up against an opponent in a best of 5 series who only had 1200 points compared to my 2700. I beat him 3 games to 2. i won 9 points for each victory and lost 43 for each defeat. YIKES!!! i am not a point whore or anything, but i do enjoy climbing up the ladder, and in the future i will probably decide not to take that risk again.

As for your idea. It sounds great on the surface, but i doubt that many above major will want to participate in these types of games for fear that there may be a cook or two in there with the hottest dice ever

jrh_cardinal wrote:I have seen high ranks "root" for low ranks once they are eliminated, but I've never seen someone targeted because they are bad.
Most of the time people leave low ranks alone because they think they will be able to beat a low rank once it gets down to 1v1.

Molwen wrote:Thanks for the well thought out reply
Like I said, maybe the best solution is a rule change to make any kind of rank based 'ganging up' against the rules, allowing higher ranked players to avoid games with lower ranked ones if they so choose, but preventing the lower/higher ranked players getting an unfair disadvantage if, for example, they happen to be matched up together in a tournament.

Woodruff wrote:

Molwen wrote:Thanks for the well thought out reply
Like I said, maybe the best solution is a rule change to make any kind of rank based 'ganging up' against the rules, allowing higher ranked players to avoid games with lower ranked ones if they so choose, but preventing the lower/higher ranked players getting an unfair disadvantage if, for example, they happen to be matched up together in a tournament.

I would like to see tournament games be point-free. The site, however, seems bound and determined not to give into good sense.

jrh_cardinal wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

Molwen wrote:Thanks for the well thought out reply
Like I said, maybe the best solution is a rule change to make any kind of rank based 'ganging up' against the rules, allowing higher ranked players to avoid games with lower ranked ones if they so choose, but preventing the lower/higher ranked players getting an unfair disadvantage if, for example, they happen to be matched up together in a tournament.

I would like to see tournament games be point-free. The site, however, seems bound and determined not to give into good sense.

If you did this you waould have to say clan wars are point-free too. After tourneys and clan wars, many high-ranked players don't play, or hardly play. Their rank would just stay the same.

In terms of this thread, I agre that if no ranks were involved it would be fairer, just don't see how a rule change can fix this, you can still see people's wall with one click.

My suggestion is to create a thread in the Callouts Forum (or find one if there's one already there) and create private games for non-officers. I don't think a thread for this level exists, but look at the Lieutenants local, Mess Hall (the Captain one, may have gotten the name slightly wrong), or the 2000+ thread for the basic idea. Think of a password, create a few private games, and tell people to PM you for the pasword. Then this is not a problem, everyone is around the same rank.