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Re: Trench warfare1917 V15. 21/1 Graphics pg.1/8

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bryguy wrote:
natty_dread wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:While not bright pink, the planes where reddish in colour.


Only the red baron's plane was red. Other german planes were kinda brownish if I recall correctly.


Actually looking it up, it appears that they may have been multicolored. Reading about it, it looks like they used multiple polygon-shaped colors for a form of camouflage.
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I doubt that actually drawing polygons like these with various colors and then scaling it down to the appropriate size for these aircraft is very feasible. Maybe averaging out the colors to come up with something?

Edit: I think averaging them out would give a sort of brownish-green color.
Of course, the red could be used simply because it has come to be associated somewhat with german world war 1 aircraft, simply because of the red baron. It would help keep them distinguishable.



hmm where did my first comment to nattys post go :-k well it was some thing like what you found on wiki, german plains came in all colors and some in camo, brown/green/blue.

Now, natty is rigth about it was only the red baron´s plain was red, and it was also the most beautiful ww1 airplaine, then its obvious to use it, also as you say its associated with ww1.

I will tone up the red color so it dosent looks so much "hello kitty"
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Changes: German airplaine painted in "Baron" red... airports, names deleted.

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About the colour of the planes. The planes could be any colour at all. They were painted individually and there was no uniform idea.
The squadron that was known as "The flying circus" (not just the Red Baron, though he is the most famous) used to paint their planes with bright garish colours.
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tokle wrote:About the colour of the planes. The planes could be any colour at all. They were painted individually and there was no uniform idea.
The squadron that was known as "The flying circus" (not just the Red Baron, though he is the most famous) used to paint their planes with bright garish colours.


Did that also apply foir the alied planes :?:
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Flapcake wrote:
tokle wrote:About the colour of the planes. The planes could be any colour at all. They were painted individually and there was no uniform idea.
The squadron that was known as "The flying circus" (not just the Red Baron, though he is the most famous) used to paint their planes with bright garish colours.


Did that also apply foir the alied planes :?:

Yes. Basically, they were painted individually.
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Now we got the plane and the small map solved, anything else ? or move on to next stage :mrgreen:
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Flapcake wrote:Now we got the plane and the small map solved, anything else ? or move on to next stage :mrgreen:



Quoting my self and dusting this topic off, now when half the foundry are buzy comment on dana`s cow map Im trying to keep this one alive, or maby it just deserve to die in silence :cry:
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The text is unclear on the small version. Title + region labels are fine, everything else not.
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natty_dread wrote:The text is unclear on the small version. Title + region labels are fine, everything else not.



Thx for your comment Natty.

Region label, (as you know my english are not to good) do you by that meen territorys names ?

Il do a check up on the text ASAP.
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Under the 1917. All the text in the small looks unclear. Your glow/shadow is strong so toning that down might help. Try to increase the font size by one if that does not work (which means you will need to shuffle it about to make it all fit).
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Thx for your comment Koontz.

What I have done is changing the text from smoth to sharp and toned down the shadow, font size are the same ( 8 p)

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I think you can increase the opacity of the drop shadow under your storyline a bit as it is making it hard to read it.
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isaiah40 wrote:I think you can increase the opacity of the drop shadow under your storyline a bit as it is making it hard to read it.


I dont know how to fix it, but the red poem / storyline bit gives me a headache to even look at :( otherwise im really interested in seeing this map come out!

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isaiah40 wrote:I think you can increase the opacity of the drop shadow under your storyline a bit as it is making it hard to read it.


I dont know how to fix it, but the red poem / storyline bit gives me a headache to even look at :( otherwise im really interested in seeing this map come out!

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Hmm yes, the drop shadow can be reduced NP.

The poem is a small context and is writen by a soldier under ww1, I love the text, it got some thing horrible beauty over it, and match the theme perfect.

I do prefer the poem in red, but an alternative in white ?
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Well, i dont mind the color red. i dont know if you made other changes, but the white text is 1000% more readable.
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Swap the colours around to match the title. Black letters with the white drop.
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koontz1973 wrote:Swap the colours around to match the title. Black letters with the white drop.


It dident work, the white was to dominating, I have come to the conclusion that red fits the bedst, also to enhance the contents of the poem.

I have made the red colour darker (like blood :twisted: )so it dont flicker in to your eyes.

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The red does look good.
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Question, why does the Allied aircraft get a tarmac, when the Germans don't? In this era landing strips were all pretty much open fields, not paved.
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RedBaron0 wrote:Question, why does the Allied aircraft get a tarmac, when the Germans don't? In this era landing strips were all pretty much open fields, not paved.


Thx for your comment Redbaron
Just to make it diffrent, I can turn it into a gravel path, it will also look more rustic that way ;)
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Changed: Allies flypath from asphalt to gravel track


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Very nice, thank you, perhaps a lil flavor for the airstrips as well? Buildings and people wouldn't likely work because of established scale on the dead bodies... perhaps a couple oil drums or a period AA gun could though.

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Could be an interesting gp addition with an AA gun for each side, but that wrinkle I leave at your discretion.
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RedBaron0 wrote:Very nice, thank you, perhaps a lil flavor for the airstrips as well? Buildings and people wouldn't likely work because of established scale on the dead bodies... perhaps a couple oil drums or a period AA gun could though.

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Could be an interesting gp addition with an AA gun for each side, but that wrinkle I leave at your discretion.




As it is now is a little cartoon-like, and it all does not match 100% of scale, I think it does not mean so much because it's just to give a visual impression of trench warfare.
I'm not so crazy to put some more things on the theme as it should not dominate the whole picture.

I do not think that we need a weapon that can shoot down aircraft, although they did have that during WW1. The aircrafts can attack each other, but I'll play around with the idea.
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Changes: german airfield now got a pilot and a mechanic fuel up the plains, (dont know what to add for the aly side yet)

this is ofc only theme stuff, but its makes it more fun to looking at

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While I think white was easier to red - the new read doesn't hurt the eyes and I think it's fine :)

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