Conquer Club

OK. Changed the opacity of the lower legends and added a white stroke to the right legend text. I left the left text as a comparison. Which do you like better?

Bruceswar wrote:
See if you can possible switch out those lines with something else. The connecting lines look a bit messy if you ask me.

Any ideas? I've looked thru the maps already made. Very few use lines. I'm not sure what else I could do. Different color? Thicker? Curved? Idk.

Bruceswar wrote:
Keep up the good work!

Thanks!

Try dotted/dashed instead of solid, curved instead of straight. Maybe make them white to make them more noticeable?

This map is coming on nicely - concerns are being addressed. Maybe time for a review and move to gameplay? Maybe once we have dotted attack lines (pelo war style would be cool)?

What is the status of this map?

This map is still going ahead. I've been absent because my wife's brother is in the hospital with H1N1. He's on full life support and not doing well. Once this family crisis is over, I will have more time to move forward.

My condolences, DukeHazzard. Take your time.


--Andy

DJ Teflon wrote:This map is coming on nicely - concerns are being addressed. Maybe time for a review and move to gameplay? Maybe once we have dotted attack lines (pelo war style would be cool)?

I changed the lines...

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AndyDufresne wrote:My condolences, DukeHazzard. Take your time.


--Andy

Thanks.. he's doing much better now

As far as this forum goes, I feel you've met the requirements, but I'll leave that up to MrBenn (thenobodies80 will be absent for a bit). In the meantime, I don't see why we can't hammer out gameplay and graphics concerns:

1. The dotted lines are awfully distracting, make the circles much, much smaller.
2. Can the space ports assault their corresponding rockets?
   
   • If so, Africa to +5, Euro-union to +5, Russasia to +4 or +5, United Southam to +4 or +5
   • If not, Africa to +4 or +5, Euro-union to +4 or +5, Russasia to +4, Canamerico to +7, United Southam to +4
3. Ocean cities could stand to be worth just a bit more, maybe +1 for every city above 2 (instead of 3)?
4. I think your moon-related bonuses are awfully large (though I understand your aim).
   
   • Maser Array already has a fair amount of power with its bombardment ability. Maybe do something like +5 per moon territory with Maser Array?
   • Now thinking about it, I think the mine bonus is actually all right. I like it reasonably high.
5. Move your labels so it's more clear which belongs to which, sometimes it can get confusing.
6. Make sure that all icons of one color are entirely in a region of its color. (See how Ukraine and Saudi are not sitting upon their own color?)
7. Make the text sizes of your labels equal.
8. If you can fit it, I believe it would be more appropriate to have the text at the bottom-right ("All white territories...") at the top portion along with the moon.
9. Try to clean up pixelation, like at the edges of continents and the rockets.

That's all I can think of for now!

-Sully

Victor Sullivan wrote:

• If so, Africa to +5, Euro-union to +5, Russasia to +4 or +5, United Southam to +4 or +5
• If not, Africa to +4 or +5, Euro-union to +4 or +5, Russasia to +4, Canamerico to +7, United Southam to +4

[*]Ocean cities could stand to be worth just a bit more, maybe +1 for every city above 2 (instead of 3)?
[*]I think your moon-related bonuses are awfully large (though I understand your aim).

• Maser Array already has a fair amount of power with its bombardment ability. Maybe do something like +5 per moon territory with Maser Array?

This might make the map another classic-style bonus-hunting boring farce. With smaller earth bonuses and big moon bonuses you are encouraging players to jon the race and develop map-specific tactics.

Of course, the balance of bonus values on earth need to be right but they can all happilly be relatively low in comparison to the moon imo.

I find the bonus allocation of territories a bit confusing because the map and city symbol often doesn' t match.
- Map of Korea should be red
- Saudi would more logically belong to South Asia
- Ukraine would more logically belong to RussAsia
- Malaysia would more logically belong to South Asia or make it Indonesia
- Hawai could belong to Canamerico

The "+1 bonus for every
Ocean City Obove 3" seems to belong to Factory and Ocean city respectively. You could skip the city's in the legend and make more space for this Ocean City bonus.

I'd like to get this one moving to the gameplay workshop...

The legend reads kind of funny, change your spacing of the words. Right now it looks like you get +1 for every factory.

The Master Array bonus is a little strange... you might do better to make it: Hold the space Station and master array for +50 or Just hold the master Array for +50.

I'm working on a laundry list of changes. Will post update soon.

Is this still in the process of work? If so, I'd like to move it. If not, then to the recycling bin. Let me know!

Industrial Helix wrote:Is this still in the process of work? If so, I'd like to move it. If not, then to the recycling bin. Let me know!

My job requires most of my time in the summer, so this project doesn't get as much. Still working on it. I am definately going to continue on this through the summer, but will be able to put more time on it again in the fall.

Thank you
Duke

Look forward to seeing this progress whenever you pick it up again.


--Andy

AndyDufresne wrote:Look forward to seeing this progress whenever you pick it up again.


--Andy

Ditto!

-Sully

He sent me a pm, hopefully, he thinks, he will have some time this weekend to work on it. If we get an update, I'll move it.

no time this weekend... maybe next

Great idea I'm expressing my support !

A late comment on a basic element, so I realize it could not possibly be acted upon, and I've not read all ten pages of previous comments, but...

When looking to play a new game I (perhaps unfortunately) let my first impressions rule, and my #1 concern is: how much squinting will I have to do with this map? In this case, I find your choice of font unfortunate. It's very difficult to read. Stylized fonts like this are designed to be used as titles only, not text. Then in addition your kerning is way too tight and letters are running into each other. (Example: the "INE" in "Ukraine".) The combo means I'd have to concentrate too hard on reading this map - I'd never sign up for a game. Sorry.

It's just me - don't let it worry you. But if you get around to making lots of changes, consider using this font very sparingly, like for the title only. I notice you didn't use it for the tiny sideways lettering "To..." along the sides. Why? Obviously because it would be unreadable at that size. But the regular size isn't that much larger.

Just my two cents - sorry I waited so long to comment.

You've made some major geographical errors! France is where Germany would be, Sweden is where Finland would be, Ukraine is where Moscow would be, Germany is where Ukraine would be! I'm not ok with those geographical inaccuracies! Also wouldn't it be easier to just name Korea Japan since it already sits atop Japan??? Also you've forgot to draw out the baltic sea!
And Galapagos should be moved closer to south america and a bit north! And Cap verde should be far higher up! Unless it's the doodle earth type of map you're looking for I suggest some modifications closer to reality! Otherwise I like the map!

Minister X wrote:A late comment on a basic element, so I realize it could not possibly be acted upon, and I've not read all ten pages of previous comments, but...

When looking to play a new game I (perhaps unfortunately) let my first impressions rule, and my #1 concern is: how much squinting will I have to do with this map? In this case, I find your choice of font unfortunate. It's very difficult to read. Stylized fonts like this are designed to be used as titles only, not text. Then in addition your kerning is way too tight and letters are running into each other. (Example: the "INE" in "Ukraine".) The combo means I'd have to concentrate too hard on reading this map - I'd never sign up for a game. Sorry.

It's just me - don't let it worry you. But if you get around to making lots of changes, consider using this font very sparingly, like for the title only. I notice you didn't use it for the tiny sideways lettering "To..." along the sides. Why? Obviously because it would be unreadable at that size. But the regular size isn't that much larger.

Just my two cents - sorry I waited so long to comment.

Thanks for your comments. I've been thinking of trying another font as I thought the map looked to cluttered. My goal is to make a different gameplay without to much confusion.

Gillipig wrote:You've made some major geographical errors! France is where Germany would be, Sweden is where Finland would be, Ukraine is where Moscow would be, Germany is where Ukraine would be! I'm not ok with those geographical inaccuracies! Also wouldn't it be easier to just name Korea Japan since it already sits atop Japan??? Also you've forgot to draw out the baltic sea!
And Galapagos should be moved closer to south america and a bit north! And Cap verde should be far higher up! Unless it's the doodle earth type of map you're looking for I suggest some modifications closer to reality! Otherwise I like the map!

I'm surprised you missed Hudson's Bay is missing in Canada. Lol. Some locations have been adjusted to keep from crowding, but I see your point. I may just spend some time re-doing the whole map. When I get some more time...

I'm sorry, but the latest update was posted months ago!
I'm going to move this one untill a new update will be provided.

[Moved]

unless you mean that all white territories are connected to each other AND to maser array, you should write: All white terrtories connect to maser array and vice versa.

also, i'd make the glow of the territory name coorespond to their respective continent, for example the glow of Cape verde should be red, etc.