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Post by rocksolid »

Yes, this is absolutely a terrific map. Though I just played a full game on it and never realized until reading this thread that Hadrian's wall was one-way. I'd ask you to change it, but now that I know, it's to my advantage that it's not advertised... :twisted:
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.... And thus an advantage is afforded the history buffs! :wink:

... The Large Map actually says "One Way", with an arrow pointing toward Scotland. Though I know a lot of folks like playing the smaller maps -just easier.
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Well the idea of Hadrians wall was that the Scots couldn't get into England but at the same time the English could attack Scotland. So it figures its one way, because its on the top of large hills across the country border :)
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.... Modern historians argue that Hadrian's Wall was more a marker and a signal of Roman power to the "barbarians" than it was an actual defensive structure. The empire was already in decline and conquering Scotland was just going to be too expensive. (though another wall was built even further north by a later emporer - to mark the boundry of the empire).

... The fortifications of the actual wall were built to defend from attacks coming from both directions.

.... But that would serve no purpose here, so I made it one-way. :)
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Seems like I didn't look deep enough into my history books :)
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Suggesting for British Isles Map

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In the British Isles map. There is a minor design flaw. The territory of donegal looks like it can attack South Highlands when it actually bridges over to Strathclyde, has anyone else made that error? It's costs me a few games so far, and a minor change to the appearance is all that is nessecarry. Is this possible?
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mingusfan wrote:In the British Isles map. There is a minor design flaw. The territory of donegal looks like it can attack South Highlands when it actually bridges over to Strathclyde, has anyone else made that error? It's costs me a few games so far, and a minor change to the appearance is all that is nessecarry. Is this possible?


I think the British Isles is up for revamp, so at some point somebody (possibly the original cartographer) will re-do it, either purely graphics or both graphics and gameplay, so this issue should be resolved :D
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Either way there is already a British Isles map thread, so this should be added to it.
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Feck and i thought the revamp had started. THanks for wasting 2 mins of my life dude :)

Revamps never include fiddling with gameplay as can be noteed from the maximus revamp....It now has lovely graphics but gameplay is and will remain bad :?
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And if you thought u could attack from Donegal to south highlands your in trouble mate. Can you imagine this loke getting his head aound some of the other maps on here LOL
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That flaw cost me one turn as well. However, how could that have cost you a FEW GAMES? If you keep forgetting about it then you have only 1 person to blame.

I love that map and wouldn't want to see it changed at all, except to make the mentioned line of attack clearer.
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mingusfan wrote: It's costs me a few games so far,


it cost you a few games...you didnt realize it after one game?
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Guiscard wrote:I think the British Isles is up for revamp, so at some point somebody (possibly the original cartographer) will re-do it, either purely graphics or both graphics and gameplay, so this issue should be resolved :D


Does it need to be reone?

The British isles is a fantastic map as it is. Looks pretty damn good (doesn't have all these fancy pants graphical whatchamecallies but still) and I've played plenty of games on it without having a single issue with is (aside from that I lost some :evil: ).
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i despise it for its innacuracy more than anything else, whoever made it should have looked at an actual map of britain before making it.

*hampshire containes some of the most important brittish ports, it is not landlocked

*essex is also not landlocked

*the county to the side of lincolnshire is nottinghamshire, not oxford, oxford is much further south whare hampshire is shown

*lands end is a place in cornwall, cornwall is not a place in lands end (neither is dorset)

*grampian is spelt wrong

*cornwall has been squished down by devon which has been squished down by dorset

*shropshire is halfway up wales, the county in the severn estury is gloucestershire

i think thats it for britain itself....
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hulmey wrote:And if you thought u could attack from Donegal to south highlands your in trouble mate. Can you imagine this loke getting his head aound some of the other maps on here LOL


No need to be rude..i am very capable of "getting my head around the maps" this is just a minor problem that I thought I could bring up...sorry if you have a problem with that :?
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hulmey wrote:Feck and i thought the revamp had started. THanks for wasting 2 mins of my life dude :)

Revamps never include fiddling with gameplay as can be noteed from the maximus revamp....It now has lovely graphics but gameplay is and will remain bad :?


Revamps can change gameplay if it is neccesary but i think in most if not all maps it was decided not to because it was not needed. The gameplay of cicus maximus is the only hting that makes it unique
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Balsiefen wrote:i despise it for its innacuracy more than anything else, whoever made it should have looked at an actual map of britain before making it.

*hampshire containes some of the most important brittish ports, it is not landlocked

*essex is also not landlocked

*the county to the side of lincolnshire is nottinghamshire, not oxford, oxford is much further south whare hampshire is shown

*lands end is a place in cornwall, cornwall is not a place in lands end (neither is dorset)

*grampian is spelt wrong

*cornwall has been squished down by devon which has been squished down by dorset

*shropshire is halfway up wales, the county in the severn estury is gloucestershire

i think thats it for britain itself....


Didn't really notice these glaring insults to British geography but I must agree... looking at a simple map of GB & Ireland you can see that life is drastically different to what is represented in this map. That said I do like playing on the British Isles.
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its the bollocks
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i think the designer must dislike the english midlands because he's left out virtually all of it!

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FM Harper wrote:
Balsiefen wrote:i despise it for its innacuracy more than anything else, whoever made it should have looked at an actual map of britain before making it.

*hampshire containes some of the most important brittish ports, it is not landlocked

*essex is also not landlocked

*the county to the side of lincolnshire is nottinghamshire, not oxford, oxford is much further south whare hampshire is shown

*lands end is a place in cornwall, cornwall is not a place in lands end (neither is dorset)

*grampian is spelt wrong

*cornwall has been squished down by devon which has been squished down by dorset

*shropshire is halfway up wales, the county in the severn estury is gloucestershire

i think thats it for britain itself....


Didn't really notice these glaring insults to British geography but I must agree... looking at a simple map of GB & Ireland you can see that life is drastically different to what is represented in this map. That said I do like playing on the British Isles.


I agree, all it needs are a few names changing on the origional map, nothing very hard

anyway, when is the map maker going to do this? Keyogi has said he wishis to make the changes himself instead of letting anyone elso do it but so far nothing has been done!

even I, when i'm making the scotland map checked the basic geography of the country first. Ive made several mistakes (a lot of them even worse than this map) but i corrected them immiadiatly after they were pointed out.
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Bearing in mind it was made by someone from Japan I think they did a very good job.

Sure, it has its flaws, so do a lot of maps.
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Haydena wrote:Bearing in mind it was made by someone from Japan I think they did a very good job.

Sure, it has its flaws, so do a lot of maps.


I dont.

living in Japan is not somthing that stops you searching on google images for a map of britain to see whare the counties are.

I dont live in scotland but at least i corrected the terrible mistakes on my map when they were pointed out. The same goes for pretty much every other map in the foundry.

Flaws in other maps should also be corrected. I dont know what they are because i dont live in those countries. However, someone who does is at perfect right to voice these problems and have them changed
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Post by Floppie »

imo Hadrian's Wall breaks this map. It allows a player to control territory enough to generate 24 armies per turn and defend them WITH TWO TERRITORIES. One could quite simply sit on Cork and Isle of Man dropping 12 armies on each round after round and other players would never have any hope of coming back without escalating cards.

I very nearly pulled it off myself in a four-player game a while back. My own dumb miscalculation lost me that opportunity.
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If you manage to do that then you proberbly desreve to win anyway, On the whole i'm fine with playability and graphics, Its the accuracy i'm not happy with.

And where's that darn map maker got to?
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Great Britain Map - defects...

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Hi, the Great Britain map has quite a few errors of geography on it...

For one thing - the Granpians are actually spelt Grampians... and I don't think they're in the right place...


Oxfordshire goes too far north, Cheshire and Shropshire are too far south (Shropshire should actually be called Gloucestershire, Cheshire called Shropshire, and the southern half of Lancashire should be Cheshire - and Westmorland should be split between Lancashire and Cumberland)
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