Austerlitz Map [Quenched]

[pamoa]

v06 new features: background and other small things
[bigimg]http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm126/pamoa_ch/AusterlitzAnXIVv06s.png[/bigimg]
[bigimg]http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm126/pamoa_ch/AusterlitzAnXIVv06.png[/bigimg]

sorry guys a lot of RL work
I'm making a poll in the thread as the front page system is bugging

WHICH BACKGROUND DO YOU PREFER AND WHY?

A - clear yellowish as in small map
B - darker parchment like as in large map

I personally prefer the clean look of the small map

[captainwalrus]

with out the color codes and 888s it looks pretty bare, but that won't be on the smll map probably.

[MrBenn]

I have to say I prefer the darker version...

[TaCktiX]

I can only find 3 divisions on the allied left flank as shown on the map. Is there a 4th one there I missed?

And I prefer the darker one too.

[Danyael]

darker is best in my opinion

[pamoa]

I can only find 3 divisions on the allied left flank as shown on the map. Is there a 4th one there I missed?

3 russian infantry divisions + Kienmayer cavalry west of the villages = 4

WHICH BACKGROUND DO YOU PREFER AND WHY?

A - clear yellowish as in small map = 2 votes/5
B - darker parchment like as in large map = 3 votes/5

[bigimg]http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm126/pamoa_ch/AusterlitzAnXIVv05s.png[/bigimg]
[bigimg]http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm126/pamoa_ch/AusterlitzAnXIVv06.png[/bigimg]

[MrBenn]

Pamoa,

It's been a while since you've had any further feedback about the backgroudn colour - I think it's safe to assume that you should pick whichever you feel most happy with.

Once that's decided, I can't really see much else to comment on - you addressed all my other concerns earlier...

[pamoa]

Ok I make a choice dark redish bg
so here it is

[bigimg]http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm126/pamoa_ch/AusterlitzAnXIVv06s.png[/bigimg]
[bigimg]http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm126/pamoa_ch/AusterlitzAnXIVv06.png[/bigimg]

[MrBenn]

I'm happy with that...



Onwards and Upwards!

[WidowMakers]

Well I have to say the GFX are very nice on this map. I really like the background, road, cities and how the header and legend blend well.

However, after that the map seems to get very complicated. Not from a GP perspective but from a general "what is going on" perspective.

Here are some things that trouble me:

1) The legend says cavalry get to an attack range of 2. But it does not say what Cavalry are. I would include a small icon to better explain that.
2) The bonus group naming and identification are VERY hard to understand.
3) With Due to how the bonuses and names are laid out and colored, you might have a HUGE issue with colorblind players. Maybe instead of colors only there be ICONS for each side. That way they could more easily be understood. It might also help with the bonus names. Instead of having the brackets and names, what if one group had stars and the legend had star as well. Then colors would not matter. Use different shapes for each group. Squares, triangles, diamonds, circles, two vertical lines. plus sign, etc.

This is not a bad map it has just been overcomplicated IMO.

WM

P.S. French left flank is missing a "A"

[pamoa]

I'm happy with that... [GRAPHIC STAMP] Onwards and Upwards!

I do thank you MrBenn

However, after that the map seems to get very complicated. Not from a GP perspective but from a general "what is going on" perspective.
1) The legend says cavalry get to an attack range of 2. But it does not say what Cavalry are. I would include a small icon to better explain that.
2) The bonus group naming and identification are VERY hard to understand.
3) With Due to how the bonuses and names are laid out and coloured, you might have a HUGE issue with colour-blind players. Maybe instead of colours only there be ICONS for each side. That way they could more easily be understood. It might also help with the bonus names. Instead of having the brackets and names, what if one group had stars and the legend had star as well. Then colours would not matter. Use different shapes for each group. Squares, triangles, diamonds, circles, two vertical lines. plus sign, etc.
This is not a bad map it has just been overcomplicated IMO.
P.S. French left flank is missing a "A"

thanks for dropping in and commenting VW
well if you fell confused from the general point of view then you get the feeling they had at that time on the battlefield
I also wanted it to give the feeling of map from that time when written language was much more important than graphic language as images were very difficult to produce
1 come on aren't icons enough clear to differentiate cavalry unit and infantry ones
2 sure it is not a map with geographical territories but they are placed in a normal reading order from left to right and up to down
3 well colour-blind people have mainly problems with shades not primary and if primary mainly with red/green so if you are fully colour-blind (seeing only greys) then all CC maps are in trouble
but you can still distinguish each side by the orientation of icons
about your idea of adding icons to troops icons well in a first non showed version of the map their were flag icons under troop numbers but it make the small map unreadable
and I think that a shape icon next to the troop icon with or without colour would make the map even more confusing
about being a complicated map well it is one and I'm not pretending making an easy one even if it may look like this at the first glimpse
last French left flank has been abbreviated in the small map as "FRENCH LEFT FLK"

[grayhawke]

Firstly, I like the background used. It's in keeping with the spirit of the map.

Secondly, congrats on getting the graphics stamp.

Thirdly,

... last French left flank has been abbreviated in the small map as "FRENCH LEFT FLK"

Why not just remove the word "flank"? To speak of "French left", "French right", is perfectly good English.

[pamoa]

Why not just remove the word "flank"? To speak of "French left", "French right", is perfectly good English.

If it's correct then I'll remove it in the maps and legend
anyone having an objection

[pamoa]

Map name: Austerlitz

Link to thread: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=66248

Link to large image: http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm126/pamoa_ch/AusterlitzAnXIVv06e.png

Link to small image: http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm126/pamoa_ch/AusterlitzAnXIVv06se.png

XML: http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/3/2172106/Atz.xml

XML is OK now.

XML done and checked
I'm only waiting the stamp to go to FF

[MrBenn]

Final Forge

---The Austerlitz Map has reached the ‘Final Forge’ Stage. The map has passed rigorous gameplay and graphics examinations, and major concerns have been addressed. If you have any other concerns, please make your voice heard. If after a reasonable amount of time there has not been any objection or protest, the map will be deemed finished with the 'Foundry Brand' of approval and will be submitted for live play. As long as there is still discussion or posts that have yet to be commented on, the map will remain in Final Forge until said discussion has reached the conclusion that the map has reached its final and polished version.

Post questions and concerns if any.

[cairnswk]

Congrats pamoa

[grayhawke]

Congrats pamoa

Likewise

[pamoa]

YES
thanks guys

any last comments ?

[the.killing.44]

8 pages

Small
Margaron — move 1px to the right (not that this is a pressing issue, but I see that you have them all aligned left on the line.

That's it. Jeez this is great!

.44

[pamoa]

8 pages
Small map: Margaron — move 1px to the right (not that this is a pressing issue, but I see that you have them all aligned left on the line.

8 pages is because my draft was almost my final map graphically
i'll fix margaron ( what an hawk eye! )

[pamoa]

Is everything all-right for you guys ?
may it go live ?

[MrBenn]

Small
Margaron — move 1px to the right (not that this is a pressing issue, but I see that you have them all aligned left on the line.

That's it. Jeez this is great!

.44

Did you update the XML? That's the only thing holding this back now...

[pamoa]

off course !

[MrBenn]

Somehow I think this one slipped the net...



...any more for any more - or we ready to release this into the wild?

[pamoa]

beta beta beta love