Conquer Club

bryguy wrote:why dont you include interstate 35? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_35


it stretches through most of the midwest, from southern texas to i think somewhere in canada

It ends in Duluth, Minnesota, though you were close bryguy

l3eater wrote:

bryguy wrote:why dont you include interstate 35? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_35


it stretches through most of the midwest, from southern texas to i think somewhere in canada

It ends in Duluth, Minnesota, though you were close bryguy

oh well, at least I was close

ive only driven on it from dallas to minnesota (in all)

yeti, you're right about oklahoma.

as I said to widow in that post, there are quite a few places on these maps with one border and that confuses the bonuses for everything else. grabbing four territories just to get a +1 seems a bit weak but then every other continent needs to get bumped up

edbeard wrote:as I said to widow in that post, there are quite a few places on these maps with one border and that confuses the bonuses for everything else. grabbing four territories just to get a +1 seems a bit weak but then every other continent needs to get bumped up

Agreed - it's a balance isn't it - +1 is always a crap bonus - but it soon adds up - especially if you hold 12 terries - and maybe a capital bonus on top too.

Either way - it'll become a place to grab (+2) or a place to consider if nothing else is left!!

C.

Thanks guys for the input. I will keep working on the other three maps and see what other input we get on these for now.

But I would like to discuss one thing you brought up.
You mention that there are a lot of one border states.
While I did try to get a pretty good layout initially, there is no reason we can add roads.
I mean the states are connected by more than one road.

Feel free to suggest border changes and additions to even out the bonuses.

Hm. Ill adv idea this. I would like to get it out of ideas kinda quick now. BUt I want to see all 6 maps if thats possible?

Your intention is to have this project move as quick as the slowest map in the pack? Ill need to discuss the do-ability of this with oaktown but I dont see it as so much of a problem. We will just have to work out who we will work it.

[adv. idea]

OK here are Version 2 of the first three maps.

EDITS:
-I have added some more roads to several of the states to make the movement better.
-Added Interstate symbols to the interstates for better recognition.
Adjusted the bonuses to suggested values

VERSION 2 WEST


VERSION 2 SOUTHWEST

Bonus Suggestions:
I think the bonuses for this map need to be a bit bigger. I ran them through the bonus estimate I have and I got these.

Arizona-3
New Mexico-4
Texas-6
Oklahoma-3
Arkansas-2
Louisiana-2

VERSION 2 ROCKIES

Bonus Suggestions:

Idaho-3
Utah-3
Montana-4
Wyoming-5
Colorado-3
North Dakota-1
South Dakota-1
Nebraska-2
Kansas-1

I am still working on the SOUTH EAST map. I initially started with all of the major roads but some gameplay adjustments needed to be made. I picked two interstates adn now I am building up the other borders for gameplay purposes.

Actual major highways and exact locations of cities my vary slightly.

So if there are any road relocation suggestions please feel free to explain.

Great job, big responsability also 6 maps together!
I can't wait seeing all of them and discuss about graphics. But I'll wait until you did them all.
Even if it should take time, I think real life and your baby are the priority, good luck.

I dislike all the empty space in the Southwest...but I assume you are going for consistency regarding the title location in the upper right. So I suppose I could live with it.


--Andy

ok, widowmaker, do we have 6 map drafts yet? I checked page one and im assuming there is still a first draft to be posted of two other maps. Is this correct?

Also me and oaktown discussed how best to moderate this, its my believing that oaktown will stamp the whole package under one stamp. So basically all 6 maps will need to be up to oaktowns standards to get your gameplay stamp. I on the other hand may do my stamping map by map. Although im still undecided. If you get a minute flag me up on skype ill we will discuss how best to work the graphics stamp with this project.

Version 2 SouthEAst


Comments

I see you are trying to fill the space, but I'd rather see the states closer together, like the previous maps.


--Andy

WidowMakers wrote:Version 2 SouthEAst


Comments

good start.

can we connect Knoxville to Charlotte? (spelled wrong on map I think). That'll alleviate two of my problems. Tennessee (2 E's at end!) only connecting to georgia. N. Carolina only connecting to S. Carolina.

Possibly consider a connection from Mississippi to Tennessee as well. The dead end there doesn't feel right. Also the 3 bonus Miss. isn't right with only 2 borders and 4 territories.

AndyDufresne wrote:I see you are trying to fill the space, but I'd rather see the states closer together, like the previous maps.


--Andy

I understand and agree Andy. BUT...

I just want to get the gameplay agreed upon first then we can tweak the graphics. Plus...

these east coast regions have many interlocking state shapes.
Due to this, the space between the state might need to stay larger because of naming and road routes.

But like I said I have no problem with trying to tighten them up.

Version 1 New England

are the roads eventually going to be fixed so they aren't as pixellated?

wcaclimbing wrote:are the roads eventually going to be fixed so they aren't as pixellated?

They will be fixed. They will eventually be vector based roads and will not (hopefully) be pixelated.

Only working on layout and gameplay right now.

WidowMakers wrote:Version 1 New England

how about roads from...

Berlin to Kingfield

Berlin to St. Albins


How about another city in New Jersey to cut down on the 2 and 3 territory regions?

WidowMakers wrote:Version 1 New England

make the states diff colours and make the legend the same colour as i dont know which state is which

As a non american it is very difficult for me to make the link between the state name in the bonus list and it's geographical position.
Even in Southwest with the texture,it take me more than 30 seconds to find the right bonus.
As it is now it's unplayable , at least you have to put the names in a logical order (geographically).
More drastical but more efficient would be a minimap or putting states name near the states itself.
Please think to american geography ignorant.

i agree ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

i cant work out which state is which in some maps and others it takes a while to work out

when the graphics are more like the first three maps (west, southwest, rockies) where each state has a colour and a repeating symbol, they are quite distinguishable.

pamoa wrote:As a non american it is very difficult for me to make the link between the state name in the bonus list and it's geographical position.
Even in Southwest with the texture,it take me more than 30 seconds to find the right bonus.
As it is now it's unplayable , at least you have to put the names in a logical order (geographically).
More drastical but more efficient would be a minimap or putting states name near the states itself.
Please think to american geography ignorant.

sam_levi_11 wrote:i agree ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

i cant work out which state is which in some maps and others it takes a while to work out

I apologize everyone. I should have thought of this before posting. While edbeard is correct that this will hopefully be resolved after the graphics are done, people who don't know the state need to see the differences.

I will update the new maps with very contrasting colors to better allow identification.

WM

Version 2 New England
Fixes:

-Added colors for better differentiation during gameplay discussion. (will change during GFX stage)
-Implemented edbeard's border suggestions. (Berlin to Kingfield & Berlin to St. Albins)

Comments:

edbeard wanted to add a city to New Jersey but if we do that the Number of territories is now off and some games will start with a neutral. I would prefer not to do that.

Version 3 South East
Fixes:

-Added colors for better differentiation during gameplay discussion. (will change during GFX stage)
-Implemented edbeard's border suggestions. (Knoxville to Charlotte / Mississippi to Tennessee)
-Fixed spelling mistakes (thanks again ed)

EDIT: Need to read posts moar.