Conquer Club

I am sorry - I had not realized all games had finished, and I had thought the next round would have started automatically.
I will PM bigWham shortly to start Round 1B.

sempai

My apologies to all for the delay, but Round 1A results have finally been calculated and Round 1B groups have been made.

[spoiler=Rankings after Round 1A]1 artur1 Wharfedale7 6
2 TX AG 90 geko 6
3 Swifte cooldeals 6
4 *Pixar* codierose 6
5 Koganosi JBlombier 6
6 agentcom Graceless_ 6
7 pearljamrox2 WPBRJ 6
8 IanG7 kjg21 5
9 Casius Belius gas 5
10 Kingm bjonte 5
11 uckuki Robespierre__ 5
12 ckyrias italianipastido 5
13 jackal31 zips5000 5
14 Tazzy_J spudulica 5
15 Bigragooch jgalioto 5
16 Momo33 QuikSilver 5
17 Rodion josko.ri 4
18 Dako Chariot of Fire 4
19 smegal69 simmons4 4
20 osman76 rcfritz 4
21 shoop76 Tiller 4
22 Kid Moe ooge 4
23 bfunny27 DBandit70 4
24 nolefan5311 Egel 4
25 gannable IronWood 4
26 bpvball234 tony1973 4
27 MudPuppy EBConquer 4
28 PureTrauma keeperofsouls 4
29 RobbieDub OutSider 4
30 stevenshome hmsps 4
31 cjtails Slaylark 4
32 Leverpuller rjhankey 4
33 Guderian09 cptbeefalo 4
34 theheadholes pittsburgh00 4
35 friendly1 Treslie 3
36 angola slickstm 3
37 Triple 6 nokelberry 3
38 Leehar maasman 3
39 NoSurvivors VioIet 3
40 yanakis cille 3
41 Bigroo4601 aspalm 3
42 slickstick nibotha 3
43 I_AM_BOGEY Edgron 3
44 Flang Loose Canon 3
45 swt pimp Adolfo18 3
46 BlackKnight_6 joshzam 3
47 -Maximus- just surrender 3
48 PaRKoN TaelS 2
49 Conchobar PereiroSaus 2
50 jghost7 gambler21210 2
51 dakky21 jug68 2
52 concrete RKCVED 2
53 iop dh13 2
54 Donelladan ancessus 2
55 Coconutt alt1978 2
56 akabob2 alaskanassassin 2
57 SC MAN Mageplunka69 2
58 dkmaster MrPinky 1
59 chard Condor 1
60 Gabriel13 emilywink 1
61 blonderic Alexlau 1
62 shaneback ElectrickShock 1
63 samuelc812 aalii 1
64 chidone abygorb 0[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Groups for Round 1B]Group A:
artur1, Wharfedale7
Momo33, QuikSilver
Rodion, josko.ri
Leverpuller, rjhankey
Guderian09, cptbeefalo
PaRKoN, TaelS
Conchobar, PereiroSaus
chidone, abygorb

Group B:
TX AG 90, geko
Bigragooch, jgalioto
Dako, Chariot of Fire
cjtails, Slaylark
theheadholes, pittsburgh00
-Maximus-, just surrender
jghost7, gambler21210
samuelc812, aalii

Group C:
Swifte, cooldeals
Tazzy_J, spudulica
smegal69, simmons4
stevenshome, hmsps
friendly1, Treslie
BlackKnight_6, joshzam
dakky21, jug68
shaneback, ElectrickShock

Group D:
*Pixar*, codierose
jackal31, zips5000
osman76, rcfritz
RobbieDub, OutSider
angola, slickstm
swt pimp, Adolfo18
concrete, RKCVED
blonderic, Alexlau

Group E:
Koganosi, JBlombier
ckyrias, italianipastido
shoop76, Tiller
PureTrauma, keeperofsouls
Triple 6, nokelberry
Flang, Loose Canon
iop, dh13
Gabriel13, emilywink

Group F:
agentcom, Graceless_
uckuki, Robespierre__
Kid Moe, ooge
MudPuppy, EBConquer
Leehar, maasman
I_AM_BOGEY, Edgron
Donelladan, ancessus
chard, Condor

Group G:
pearljamrox2, WPBRJ
Kingm, bjonte
bfunny27, DBandit70
bpvball234, tony1973
NoSurvivors, VioIet
slickstick, nibotha
Coconutt, alt1978
dkmaster, MrPinky

Group H:
IanG7, kjg21
Casius Belius, gas
nolefan5311, Egel
gannable, IronWood
yanakis, cille
Bigroo4601, aspalm
akabob2, alaskanassassin
SC MAN, Mageplunka69[/spoiler]
Round 1B should start soon.

sempai

Awesome! Thanks sempai

What's up with the (sort of lame) map selection?

agentcom wrote:What's up with the (sort of lame) map selection?

We choose a few maps that (we think) are relatively easy and simple for Round 1. Harder, more complex maps will be added as the tourney continues.

sempai

sempaispellcheck wrote:

agentcom wrote:What's up with the (sort of lame) map selection?

We choose a few maps that (we think) are relatively easy and simple for Round 1. Harder, more complex maps will be added as the tourney continues.

sempai

OK, glad to hear more will be added. I'm already getting tired of a couple of these

My hope is that you'll soon expand it to random like it is in the 1v1 championship.

The satellite tournament #1 for entry to this is not completed and no prizes have been issued. Has the final round for the satellite been forgotten?

friendly1 wrote:The satellite tournament #1 for entry to this is not completed and no prizes have been issued. Has the final round for the satellite been forgotten?

I guess it slipped under the radar somehow. I'll take care of it as soon as I get the chance.

sempai

Thanks Sempai!

Any chance you'll open up the maps for the next round?

When does the next round start?


J

jghost7 wrote:When does the next round start?


J

Soon. Please bear in mind that I am not notified when each round finishes - I will ask bigWham if that can be changed.

Rankings after Round 1B have now been compiled.
Since no tiebreaker was specified, we will be using the default autotournament tiebreaker - total number of rounds of games won.
Teams are ordered using this tiebreaker on the AutoTournament page.

NOTES:
Dako and Chariot of Fire have been disqualified for violating the sitting rule.
VioIet and NoSurvivors have been disqualified because NoSurvivors has been banned for point dumping.

Round 2A should start soon.

sempai

Cool. Thanks!

Just send this pm to sempai and maybe some of you has an opinion to this matter

Hi sempai

Just looked at the big double tournament were round 2 is soon to start.

You have put in tiebraker rules that total rounds of won games count and that is ok

But looking at first team which is still in with only 5 points like my partner and I

Gabriel13 and Emilywink total rounds 41 and dkmaster, mrpinky total rounds 41

How did you decide that we were out and they were in ?

Another used tiebreaker in these large tournaments are wins going second. That should be used as tiebreaker rule number 2.

There I counted that gabriel/emily has 1 and dkmaster/mrpinky has 3

I didnt check the other yet but will do now and be back soon

But looking at the above we should still be in the tournament

regards


dkmaster

Just looked up the tiebreaker rules for auto tournaments

Ties in Score shall be broken by the following rules, applied in order:

Percentage of wins in the tournament as a whole
The cumulative number of Game rounds required to win the games they have won in the tournament (winning in less rounds is better)
The order in which the player joined the tournament (first player to join wins)

There is a third rule. I sure dont like it and prefere looking at win going second.

But looking at the third rule we would still be ahead as we joined first.

Yup,

Unless they use other rules than the ones they said they use, there has been a small mistake made. We joined the tournament 12 days before the other team

To be sure I looked at the numbers and can see that 2 more teams ended up with 5 points and 41 rounds to win. But they both joined later than our team according to the tiebreaker rules.

We are looking into the issue of ties. Eliminations were determined automatically, and I have asked bigWham to let me see how the eliminations were done.

What I can tell you, though, is that this...

dkmaster wrote:Another used tiebreaker in these large tournaments are wins going second. That should be used as tiebreaker rule number 2.

...is not going to happen. In fact, I can't see how this could be used as a tiebreaker in any tournament that doesn't have less than 10 games per round.
It would be way too much work for me (or anyone else) to go through all of these games to see who played second.

sempai

sempaispellcheck wrote:Dako and Chariot of Fire have been disqualified for violating the sitting rule.

Since they are still 8/14, does that mean the teams that lost to them during round 1b did not get the point? I think those 4 teams should be awarded the win, which will possibly change the seedings.

Actually we are using wins going second in this 1v1 championship

viewtopic.php?t=198986

were there are 31 games pr round right now so it wasnt something I just invented myself

Rodion wrote:

sempaispellcheck wrote:Dako and Chariot of Fire have been disqualified for violating the sitting rule.

Since they are still 8/14, does that mean the teams that lost to them during round 1b did not get the point? I think those 4 teams should be awarded the win, which will possibly change the seedings.

Also please make sure you've tallied this one correctly.

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=14073508

It appears you did not revert the win to samuelc812 and aalii.

Well, the good news is that these tourneys should start getting faster as all the kinks are worked out

Rodion wrote:

Rodion wrote:

sempaispellcheck wrote:Dako and Chariot of Fire have been disqualified for violating the sitting rule.

Since they are still 8/14, does that mean the teams that lost to them during round 1b did not get the point? I think those 4 teams should be awarded the win, which will possibly change the seedings.

Also please make sure you've tallied this one correctly.

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=14073508

It appears you did not revert the win to samuelc812 and aalii.

I don't think any of their 1b wins have been converted.

Looks like we could be in trouble anyway

But important that the right teams move on so thumps up for this investigation

Keep up the good work sempai and hopefully it gets easier and more automatic in the future with help from some small programming