Rescue Mission Mafia --- Weekend 4

moz976 · Post by **moz976** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:06 am

I'm not really sure who to trust at this point.

Anyone could be mafia I think I read in another thread that auto's roles are completely random.

Today will most likely be a random vote but it will give us our first voting record and we can see which way people are leaning.

Master Bush · Post by **Master Bush** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:08 am

moz wrote:Anyone could be mafia I think I read in another thread that auto's roles are completely random.

fluff post. Of course anyone could be mafia. Mafia is the ones who usually point that out to everyone.

fos moz

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:24 am

and eum i am pretty active now don't i?

thats because i have now some things too say

hmm moz sound scary...
FOS: moz

moz976 · Post by **moz976** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:28 am

dcowboys055 wrote:Darn it i just went and read the other thread first by accident...

I don't really know any first-day strategies to go on, so any ideas?

You've played quite a few games here cowboy I would think that you know how the game works by now

moz976 · Post by **moz976** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:28 am

Master Bush wrote:
moz wrote:Anyone could be mafia I think I read in another thread that auto's roles are completely random.

fluff post. Of course anyone could be mafia. Mafia is the ones who usually point that out to everyone.

fos moz

Yeah mostly a fluff post I don't have much to go on at the moment though.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:11 am

MB you protecting Wusse? I was mafia for 3 games in a row... anything's possible.

XenHu · Post by **XenHu** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:16 am

wicked wrote:MB you protecting Wusse? I was mafia for 3 games in a row... anything's possible.

Yeah, I thought MB's theory with Wisse was a little off...

FOS: MB

-X

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:23 am

Master Bush wrote:Maybe wisse is just a stupid person, and has nothing of value to say.

j/k

But really, I think voting for wisse is a mistake.

vote for The1exile

because I have not played with him before. He hasn't said much at all. Infact he has made 1 post. That smells like a mafia laying low to me. And unknown players scare me in these games.

Like the others, I have to go to school. I made one post before I went to bed,and now is the only time I get on. I play my games in the morning and sometimes check the clan forum but rarely post then - I'm then on from about 4-8 GMT.

Also, I'm pretty sure that in the past you said that not posting was not a mafia tactic (I thought it was) - contradicting yourself? I'll find the post if you need it but you probably remember what you wrote...

FOS MB

Master Bush · Post by **Master Bush** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:34 pm

wicked wrote:MB you protecting Wusse? I was mafia for 3 games in a row... anything's possible.

No, I am giving my opinion on whether he is mafia or not. And that opinion is no. Based on what I remember of him as mafia in the first game. The truth is, if wisse was mafia, and I was also mafia with him, I'd be pretty happy to see him die on day 1, and if you dont believe me, look at our last game together. We were mafia together last game, and I had the abilty to trade a mafia member. So I told my other mafia partner it was in our best interest to trade away Wisse for another townie, and then kill him off, because he was bound to take us down. So there's no way I would even come close to connecting myself with Wisse if we were both mafia here.

Master Bush · Post by **Master Bush** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:37 pm

XenHu wrote:
wicked wrote:MB you protecting Wusse? I was mafia for 3 games in a row... anything's possible.

Yeah, I thought MB's theory with Wisse was a little off...

FOS: MB

-X

You seem to be jumping from one bandwagon to the next. And please explain how my theory was a little off?

XenHu · Post by **XenHu** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:44 pm

No, I've never liked Wisse's tactics...

And your theory was alway off..

Master Bush wrote:I not sold on the wisse mafia thing. We were mafia together last game, and he did a lot of talking on day 1. Threw out a no vote, fos everyone, and was pretty active. Not the same here. And he was mafia in the only 2 games he played in, so I doubt he would pull mafia again.

So what? That was one game out of three.. In the other two, he was doing what he is doing now.. Hardly talking except for votes..

He turned out to be mafia in those two games.

-X

Master Bush · Post by **Master Bush** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:50 pm

So you're saying he was mafia in the first 3 games here? If that's the case, then the odds of him being mafia again are slim.

XenHu · Post by **XenHu** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:51 pm

Master Bush wrote:So you're saying he was mafia in the first 3 games here? If that's the case, then the odds of him being mafia again are slim.

So is losing 13 on 1...

But it happens..

-X

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:52 pm

No MB... the odds of him being mafia are the same as any one of us being mafia. No need to guess based on that.

Master Bush · Post by **Master Bush** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:56 pm

Yea, they are the same. But do you know the odds of being mafia in 4 straight games? It's pretty high. And as a Poker player, I believe strongly in odds. Is that any way to play this game? Maybe not. But this early, it's all I got to go on. I just dont think he's is mafia. Could he be mafia, and I'm way wrong, yes. That's the chance I'm taking.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:12 pm

Funny, we had this same conversation in another game about me. I have been mafia more than I haven't been.... guess you'd call that good dice. :lol:

I'm sure I'll get some noob saying OMG, then you're mafia now. :roll:

My point is that's a dumb reason to defend someone. Think about it... each game is run by a different mod using a different randomizer with a different amount of players listed in a different order playing different setups with different number of mafia.... nothing about that is fixed. In poker, the cards are set, so comparing poker odds to mafia odds is akin to comparing bananas to a a nuclear bomb.

Master Bush · Post by **Master Bush** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:15 pm

Ok, this is my last post about Wisse.

My point is that's a dumb reason to defend someone

That is not my reason for defending him. In fact I'm not defending him, I'm just giving my opinion on whether I think he is mafia or not. Just like you guys giving one about him being mafia.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:21 pm

No MB, we're not saying he IS mafia, just that he has the exact same chance as any one of us of being mafia. Past roles should have no bearing on whether he is or is not mafia this game at all. Can we please drop this?

I voted him because he was last to post and well, he's annoying and I've never seen him contribute much. Am I convinced he's mafia? No. Am I willing to lynch him? Yes... because there'll most likely be no smoking gun on day 1. Am I going to push a vote on him? No. At the end of the week, I'll go with whoever's most scummiest at the time.

Master Bush · Post by **Master Bush** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:26 pm

Can we please drop this?

LOL, I guess I'm not allowed to defend myself against yours and xenhu's fos of me?

Yea, sorry. I'll drop it I guess.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:32 pm

I didn't FOS you.

Incandenza · Post by **Incandenza** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:33 pm

Master Bush wrote:Maybe wisse is just a stupid person, and has nothing of value to say.

j/k

But really, I think voting for wisse is a mistake.

vote for The1exile

because I have not played with him before. He hasn't said much at all. Infact he has made 1 post. That smells like a mafia laying low to me. And unknown players scare me in these games.

While I don't necessarily agree with MB's vote, I totally concur with his sentiment. The unknown players do indeed have the chance to trip us up. There's not nearly as much of a book on their play styles, and the more unknown/submarining people there are as we get farther into the game, the better the odds that we'll end up going after them on day 3 or 4 because they look mafia-ish, instead of going after more fruitful targets.

I'm reminded of the way for dummies kinda lingered in auto's last game, and how easy of a lynch target he became, simply because he didn't post much.

But it's still early, we've still barely heard from some people, and I recoil at the thought of using random.org...

As far as the Wisse thing goes... it's hard for me to make any concrete determinations about him. I only played the one game with him where we were both mafia, and it seemed like he got lynched not because he looked overwhelmingly mafia, but because he wasn't posting much of substance and complaining about a toenail or some such. So I don't have much of a book on wisse either.

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:55 pm

i read thi thread just (sleep/skool ect...) and have ppl voted me because i am against a random org vote? :-s

is it only the exile that has not posted yet!?!?!

Master Bush · Post by **Master Bush** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:55 pm

wicked wrote:I didn't FOS you.

You're right, sorry. It was xenhu and The1exile who fos me. But you did accuse me of protecting wisse.

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:56 pm

oops exile has posted

fos-minkesh cause he voted 4 me on not valid gronds, and cause he said i was 11 :roll:

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:58 pm

I asked you if you were because I found it odd. That's all. You've explained it.

I'm all for lynching a noob... Wusse or Spin or Exile or Mink or Dummy. :lol: