Conquer Club

Posted: **Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:14 pm**

Phatscotty wrote:
tzor wrote:
King Doctor wrote:
tzor wrote:I've hadn't had a pay raise in 5 years.

Then you should have worked harder!

That doesn't count as a pay raise, does it?
Yes, I am currently an "hourly" employee, the more I work the more I get paid; on the other hand, the "budget" for me is only so big.

Thats weird. For me, the more I make the more they take!

and to King Doc: My level of production and efficiency has NOTHING TO DO with my Union freezing my wages for the last 4 years just so that our health care deduction only rises 3%, you ignorant prick.

As you probably do not know, my co-workers who moves slower than molasses gets the exact same raises as I do.

Start putting up posters of Stakhanov to motivate them, that aught to do the trick.

Posted: **Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:58 pm**

These things we are talking about, and by we I mean you, are decided by normally around 12 persons at the cuspid of power, or merely at the cuspid of capability. Macchiavello takes their minds and mouth by a day and......

BOOOOOOOOM China nuked
BOOOOOOOOM India nuked
BOOOOOOOOM Pakistan nuked
BOOOOOOOOM Brazil nuked
BOOOOOOOOM Indonesia nuked
BOOOOOOOOM Mexico nuked

there, half of the population gone.

Well, not really but... things are kind of weird these days, I don't believe the 2012 shit but I'm awaiting something rather big.

For instance at the beach that I live sea level rising is obvious, and the cause of these changes keeps producing more and more, and they are on the way. That might cause the next credit crisis, since property values in cities close to the beach will plummet, and a big percentage of the world lives in these cities.

In Mexico we have crisis in 3 states because of the floods hurricane Alex left. In the Gulf of Mexico, torments as big as these (like Katrina) weren't as common in the past. One has to wonder, what if this happens in the Gulf of Mexico and the Pacific Coast as well as the Cortes Sea? Not enough money for the government to help, economic crisis (yes, Mexico can do worse).

Posted: **Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:44 pm**

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- Sales of new single-family homes plunged 33% in May to a record-low level after a federal subsidy for home buyers expired, according to data released Wednesday by the Commerce Department.

Sales dropped to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 300,000, the lowest since records began in 1963

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/new-ho ... 2010-06-23

Posted: **Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:59 pm**

Well, my stock finally posted profits and beat estimates so I'm a little less worried about the recession

To be honest, I don't see the end of this, it might be that I'm over concerned since the recovery has taken more time than what "pundits" expected, and there's no clear road to global recovery. Or it might be my ignorance of the topic, I must admit I stopped watching Bloomberg because it was giving me nightmares of my paper loss becoming real loss.

About Obama's tax reform, is it good for the deficit and in the long term good for the economy, or is good only in theory and there will be no economy in the long term to fix?

Couldn't they take care of the deficit in one year from now? To be honest these days I wouldn't care if the US conquered Venezuela, Machiavello takes over my mind.

Posted: **Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:15 pm**

Phatscotty wrote:
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- Sales of new single-family homes plunged 33% in May to a record-low level after a federal subsidy for home buyers expired, according to data released Wednesday by the Commerce Department.

Sales dropped to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 300,000, the lowest since records began in 1963

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/new-ho ... 2010-06-23

Maybe if people stopped charging so much for single family homes, they'd sell more. My wife and I have been looking for two years and I can tell you that housing prices in the Philadelphia area have not dropped a cent.

Posted: **Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:22 pm**

Phatscotty wrote:My level of production and efficiency has NOTHING TO DO with my Union freezing my wages for the last 4 years just so that our health care deduction only rises 3%, you ignorant prick.

This is all your fault.

A smarter worker (who deserved to be paid more) would have either got himself promoted during that time period, or would have used the power of the free market to vote with his feet and find another job that would pay him more.

The fact that you are stagnating in a rut is your fault and nobody elses. You need to start taking responsibility for your actions and to stop whining and blaming others. Your 'where is mine?' mentality can only hold you back.

Start working harder or start working smarter. If you don't do that, then you aren't worth a pay rise.

Phatscotty wrote:As you probably do not know, my co-workers who moves slower than molasses gets the exact same raises as I do.

Clearly they are working better than you, just at a slower rate. If they weren't then you would have been promoted above them. That is what happens to people who are better than their co-workers.

Again, you need to stop moaning about others and to start taking responsibility for your life.

Posted: **Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:26 pm**

King Doctor wrote:Start working harder or start working smarter. If you don't do that, then you aren't worth a pay rise.

Unless you're a teacher. If you are a teacher, get a new union; you can get a pay raise and work less.

Otherwise, PhatScotty, saying those things make you seem a little bit hypocritical.

Posted: **Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:34 pm**

thegreekdog wrote:
King Doctor wrote:Start working harder or start working smarter. If you don't do that, then you aren't worth a pay rise.

Unless you're a teacher. If you are a teacher, get a new union; you can get a pay raise and work less.

You have some very funny ideas based on your few acquaintances...work less?

Posted: **Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:38 pm**

thegreekdog wrote:
King Doctor wrote:Start working harder or start working smarter. If you don't do that, then you aren't worth a pay rise.

Unless you're a teacher. If you are a teacher, get a new union; you can get a pay raise and work less.

Otherwise, PhatScotty, saying those things make you seem a little bit hypocritical.

me? about my union? just curious

Posted: **Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:50 pm**

Phatscotty wrote:me? about my union? just curious

Unions are profoundly socialist and anti-American institutions.

They serve only to secure big salaries for sub-standard workers who refuse to put in the effort to earn a pay-rise on their own merits. They distort labour markets and artificially drive up prices while preventing free and fair competition that would otherwise benefit consumers.

The fact that you have joined one, no doubt realising that you are too lazy to work harder and unable to work smarter, in order to line your own pockets while slacking off and screwing your employer is a betrayal of the free-market libertarian values that you profess to stand for.

Posted: **Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:55 pm**

King Doctor wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:me? about my union? just curious

Unions are profoundly socialist and anti-American institutions.

They serve only to secure big salaries for sub-standard workers who refuse to put in the effort to earn a pay-rise on their own merits. They distort labour markets and artificially drive up prices while preventing free and fair competition that would otherwise benefit consumers.

The fact that you have joined one, no doubt realising that you are too lazy to work harder and unable to work smarter, in order to line your own pockets while slacking off and screwing your employer is a betrayal of the free-market libertarian values that you profess to stand for.

Lol, I joined one? It really does not work that way LOL. I got a job at a good strong business. The fact that is was union is totally secondary and had nothing to do with me taking the job. I started when I was 15 and did not have a clue what a union was, other than most people smiled and said it was a good thing...

your entire rant is all pure blabber. Telling me how my job and my union works? :-s

I have been promoted 5 times in my career, and the lazy peeps don't get promoted brotha! Since you are so informed in this matter, you must have simply forgotten that, while my co-workers get the same raises I do, I receive many other benifits (raises is not the only thing! oops you forgot that too!) there are so many other perks, but you are so clueless I would actually prefer not to help you understand your own bullshit. I'd rather walk around it.

Posted: **Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:59 pm**

Woodruff wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
King Doctor wrote:Start working harder or start working smarter. If you don't do that, then you aren't worth a pay rise.

Unless you're a teacher. If you are a teacher, get a new union; you can get a pay raise and work less.

You have some very funny ideas based on your few acquaintances...work less?

Sorry - I went for a cheap point. Work less was probably in poor taste. I'm also extremely unhappy with the New Jersey teachers right now.

Posted: **Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:04 pm**

Phatscotty wrote:Lol, I joined one? It really does not work that way LOL.

Pure gibberish.

Do you really think that people will believe that you were forced to join?

Phatscotty wrote:The fact that is was union is totally secondary and had nothing to do with me taking the job. I started when I was 15 and did not have a clue what a union was, other than most people smiled and said it was a good thing...

Because, like you, they were work-shy and talentless, unable to rise high on their own merit they were forced to band together to bully their employer into giving them more than they deserved. Which is exactly what liberals do every time, bully the rich guy to get paid what they don't deserve.

It is amazingly hypocritical that you are still a union member, even though you profess to be a libertarian who can stand on your own two feet. The fact that you haven't had a recent pay-rise or a promotion is your own damn fault; you've trapped yourself in a bubble of mediocrity along with all of the other schlubs that are too scared to do an honest day's work.

Posted: **Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:28 am**

King Doctor wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Lol, I joined one? It really does not work that way LOL.

Pure gibberish.

Do you really think that people will believe that you were forced to join?

Phatscotty wrote:The fact that is was union is totally secondary and had nothing to do with me taking the job. I started when I was 15 and did not have a clue what a union was, other than most people smiled and said it was a good thing...

Because, like you, they were work-shy and talentless, unable to rise high on their own merit they were forced to band together to bully their employer into giving them more than they deserved. Which is exactly what liberals do every time, bully the rich guy to get paid what they don't deserve.

It is amazingly hypocritical that you are still a union member, even though you profess to be a libertarian who can stand on your own two feet. The fact that you haven't had a recent pay-rise or a promotion is your own damn fault; you've trapped yourself in a bubble of mediocrity along with all of the other schlubs that are too scared to do an honest day's work.

HAHA, what you don't know could fill a book. NOBODY gets the cost of living raise. Yup, all my fault! AS I have already pointed out, we still get our scale raises until maximum (yes dumbass, I am maxed out!) And there still exists the potential for merit raises. But as for me, I only can count on CoL raises.

I have had many promotions. I did not get hired as a manager. I have worked my way up. Only hard workers get promoted. Only the lazy ones sit on the sidelines and work their 32 hours/week. The union does not guarantee promotions. It is 100% privately decided. I had to volunteer to work weekends, every weekend, for almost a year, just for the chance to be a manager. And that is what I told the HR director when I applied for Manager. I totally earned it by punching out and then going back to work(old manager secret for the lazy)
. I earned it by not calling in sick more than once every other year. I earned it by volunteering whenever I could and working at 110%. People joke about my shirts, an that my collars are so ironed and straight that if I walked any faster I would probably lift off.

I can stand on my own 2 feet, and have. I totally got out of getting fingerprinted to punch in at work. The union members that you say I love so much laughed and called names, and told other co-workers I was scared that there was a micro-chip implant or something and that I wear a tinfoil hat. The offical line was "If you don't give your fingerprint, you can't punch in." Well, I went to my union-leader with the question, and she said "no problem. You just have to punch in a certain code instead." Guess what, those same co-worker dipshits started to ask me how they can get out of it. Also, about 4 years ago, I asked the owner about union dues and if it were possible to get out of them, and she said "If it really bothers you to pay dues that much, I will match your contribution in the form of a 401a." Every month, 38$ was deposited into a 401a. I guess I am just lucky to negotiate a package for myself from a greedy owner? nothing to do with hard work or talent. I'm sure she does that for every lazy piece of shit.

The union does some good things, as it was intended to do. The letter I get once a year, saying that both of my pensions are 87% underfunded, shows that something went wrong with the unions somewhere. I do not know exactly where or how, but I have a few ideas. I would continue with substance, but you will just ignore all this anyways. I will just finish and say you are wrong on so many levels, I don't think this conversation is worth having. But, I do hope you store this in the memory bank as to how unions actually work, rather than how you think they work.

Overall, the unions are going bust. This is a bad thing. It is ok to be a union member and criticize it and try to make it better. That does not make me a hypocrite. Given that my union and most unions are in deep shit, I think that shows my opinions have been shooting par.

Posted: **Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:57 pm**

thegreekdog wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- Sales of new single-family homes plunged 33% in May to a record-low level after a federal subsidy for home buyers expired, according to data released Wednesday by the Commerce Department.

Sales dropped to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 300,000, the lowest since records began in 1963

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/new-ho ... 2010-06-23

Maybe if people stopped charging so much for single family homes, they'd sell more. My wife and I have been looking for two years and I can tell you that housing prices in the Philadelphia area have not dropped a cent.

Not much longer. The bottom has not yet come, and it is different on the East Coast, but can I ask, on a related note, how is the commercial real-estate in Philly?

They are charging so much becuase the gov't is artificially attempting to prop up real estate through the banks. The free market is returning to real estate, starting a few months ago...

Posted: **Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:01 pm**

thegreekdog wrote:
King Doctor wrote:Start working harder or start working smarter. If you don't do that, then you aren't worth a pay rise.

Unless you're a teacher. If you are a teacher, get a new union; you can get a pay raise and work less.

Otherwise, PhatScotty, saying those things make you seem a little bit hypocritical.

It was a cost of living raise. That is not the same as bitching about not getting my union raise. unions raises, in my union, go by hours worked. you get it no matter what when you hit your hours. As pointed out earlier, I am maxed out so those are not even on the table for me.

Posted: **Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:19 pm**

Phatscotty wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:Meanwhile, if the rises a mere 3 feet, as it is projected to do in roughly 2050, then most of your claims are utterly irrelevant.

always the environment, no matter what I am talking about

Well that's because progressives care more about the environment and cute little animals more than they do people! Duh? :roll:

Posted: **Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:26 pm**

saxitoxin wrote:3+ children = product of anti-environmental, bipedal rabbits
2 children = indifferent to global suffering / amoral
1 child = doing your part
0 children = Saxtastic!

What kind of nut are you? :shock:

Posted: **Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:08 pm**

More evidence for "The Summer of Recovery!"

Joe Biden: "The president should fire his economic team." 8-24-10

stimulus package = total success

Posted: **Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:38 pm**

jay_a2j wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:3+ children = product of anti-environmental, bipedal rabbits
2 children = indifferent to global suffering / amoral
1 child = doing your part
0 children = Saxtastic!

What kind of nut are you?

He's a lot less nutty that someone who believes in god and that having more than 1 child in a world where the population is currently on an inverse curve, is a bad idea.
Goggle inverse curve jay. See if you can spot a problem with global human numbers.

Posted: **Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:41 pm**

PLAYER57832 wrote:Meanwhile, if the sea rises a mere 3 feet, as it is projected to do in roughly 2050, then most of your claims are utterly irrelevant.

LMAO - The ends of 'global warming' is accomplished when you buy this rubbish. Dems get a free pass on the economy and you buy a fairy tale.

Posted: **Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:39 pm**

ViperOverLord wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:Meanwhile, if the sea rises a mere 3 feet, as it is projected to do in roughly 2050, then most of your claims are utterly irrelevant.

LMAO - The ends of 'global warming' is accomplished when you buy this rubbish. Dems get a free pass on the economy and you buy a fairy tale.

I find it even more funny that I was supposed to be underwater since 1992...

Snorri

no it's not

Posted: **Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:40 pm**

Phatscotty wrote:
ViperOverLord wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:Meanwhile, if the sea rises a mere 3 feet, as it is projected to do in roughly 2050, then most of your claims are utterly irrelevant.

LMAO - The ends of 'global warming' is accomplished when you buy this rubbish. Dems get a free pass on the economy and you buy a fairy tale.

I find it even more funny that I was supposed to be underwater since 1992...

Ah, what could have been...

Posted: **Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:46 pm**

Consumers Dropping Pay TV Services

The number of subscribers to cable, satellite and telecom TV services in the U.S. fell for the first time ever in the second quarter, according to research firm SNL Kagan.

The U.S. multichannel TV market lost 216,000 customers last quarter, vs. a gain of 378,000 a year ago. The total number of subscribers to cable, satellite and telecom video fell to 100.1 million in the second quarter, SNL Kagan says.

http://blogs.investors.com/click/index. ... v-services

Posted: **Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:24 pm**

Scotty,
Since this thread got bumped and I happened to look at your charts again, I thought I'd point out a major problem I have with one of them. Your chart of the US$ index stops in mid-2008 and suggests that the dollar was about to hit a major resistance line, with the implication that it would then continue its downward plunge. However, the data since that time very much contradicts that interpretation. In fact, the USD drove right through the resistance line to reach its highest point in nearly three years. This peak was followed soon after by an even higher one. Notice that both peaks correlate well with significant bottoms for the major stock market indices. The dollar index did drop again, but it appears to have bounced off the top of the major resistance line (which now forms a support line). The dollar has recently been making a succession of higher lows and higher highs, and it's recently started moving to the upside with fairly strong momentum. (Interestingly, it's moving essentially inverse to the Euro.)
But that opens us up to an interesting question: Is the deflation that results from a stronger dollar better than the inflation corresponding to a falling dollar? Deflation is great for those that have lots of cash stashed away, but it utterly destroys those that are in debt. Inflation is a major long-term concern for the economic well-being of the citizens, but a fairly moderate level of deflation will further reduce already depressed spending and will increase the value (in terms of "stuff") of the national debt, pushing us one step closer to national bankruptcy.

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