[Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

Aerial Attack · Post by **Aerial Attack** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:06 pm

Nice update gimil.

I was just wondering about some things [I have not read through the thread, yet]:

1) The non-playable text ["The Atlantic Ocean," etc.] seems a bit light?

2) Both isles are smaller than their army circles. Isle of Man looks very much like an off kilter attempt to draw Saturn. Isle of Wight looks like you've put a blanket [or graduation cap] on top of a ball. I like Isle of Wight. Not so much for Isle of Man - whilst changing the shape drastically would make it totally geographically incorrect, a small alteration should be acceptable [especially with the room available].

3) Hebrides [part of Scotland] seems to have a different background than the rest of the continent. It's more like a cross between the backgrounds of North England and South England.

4) Lincs - I assume this is supposed to be Lincolnshire? I just noticed that you also have Gloucs abbreviated as well. This is a tough one - but you need a standard that you apply to ALL the terrs. If the length or number of syllables is greater than X, it gets abbreviated - otherwise it doesn't. OR the delimiter could be whether or not all the letters fit IN the territory - in which case Northumberland would need to be abbreviated ("N. Umber."?). ... Lincolnshire isn't really affected by anything other than the compass. You could move the terr name down a pixel or two and move the compass up a pixel or two. I can definitely see a need to abbreviate Gloucs.

5) The background color of the non-playable land [France] is too close to that of Southern England. No one SHOULD be confused by this, but it's possible. Maybe use the same color that you use in the inset? That sort of brownish thing.

Having written the above comments, I'll now go back and see if they were addressed earlier in the thread (I'm up to page 6).

-- Aerial Attack

rebelman · Post by **rebelman** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:39 pm

ireland is looking sweet now gimil, i would consider moving the army circle in donegal though, if you move the writing up a tiny bit you can move the circle properly onto the land

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:53 pm

Aerial Attack wrote:Nice update gimil.

I was just wondering about some things [I have not read through the thread, yet]:

1) The non-playable text ["The Atlantic Ocean," etc.] seems a bit light?

This is to help the hadrians 1 way rule stik out, but i suppose they could be a little darker.

2) Both isles are smaller than their army circles. Isle of Man looks very much like an off kilter attempt to draw Saturn. Isle of Wight looks like you've put a blanket [or graduation cap] on top of a ball. I like Isle of Wight. Not so much for Isle of Man - whilst changing the shape drastically would make it totally geographically incorrect, a small alteration should be acceptable [especially with the room available].

I dont think youve worded this to welL. would you like hte armies circles off the islands? and would you like a slight alternation to the shape of the isle of man?

3) Hebrides [part of Scotland] seems to have a different background than the rest of the continent. It's more like a cross between the backgrounds of North England and South England.

I went back and checked it, it was off. purple rather than blue.

4) Lincs - I assume this is supposed to be Lincolnshire? I just noticed that you also have Gloucs abbreviated as well. This is a tough one - but you need a standard that you apply to ALL the terrs. If the length or number of syllables is greater than X, it gets abbreviated - otherwise it doesn't. OR the delimiter could be whether or not all the letters fit IN the territory - in which case Northumberland would need to be abbreviated ("N. Umber."?). ... Lincolnshire isn't really affected by anything other than the compass. You could move the terr name down a pixel or two and move the compass up a pixel or two. I can definitely see a need to abbreviate Gloucs.

I think ill go back to just having Gloucs abbreviated.

5) The background color of the non-playable land [France] is too close to that of Southern England. No one SHOULD be confused by this, but it's possible. Maybe use the same color that you use in the inset? That sort of brownish thing.

Fixed

Having written the above comments, I'll now go back and see if they were addressed earlier in the thread (I'm up to page 6).

-- Aerial Attack

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:53 pm

rebelman wrote:ireland is looking sweet now gimil, i would consider moving the army circle in donegal though, if you move the writing up a tiny bit you can move the circle properly onto the land

done jsut for you rebelman

MrBenn · Post by **MrBenn** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:03 pm

Nice update gimil... I like the ocean names - nice touch!

I'm not too sure if it's just my screen, but it looks like a tiny bit of Cornwall has been cropped off the image... is that just me??

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:04 pm

MrBenn wrote:Nice update gimil... I like the ocean names - nice touch!

I'm not too sure if it's just my screen, but it looks like a tiny bit of Cornwall has been cropped off the image... is that just me??

yes it has, so that the map isnt any bigger than it needs to be

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:06 pm

Ogrecrusher · Post by **Ogrecrusher** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:10 pm

Lincolnshire needs a capital letter.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:12 pm

Ogrecrusher wrote:Lincolnshire needs a capital letter.

lol

MrBenn · Post by **MrBenn** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:15 pm

Hmm... might be worth just 'fudging' the Cornwall boundary a fraction; just to keep the whole boundary on the map!

I forgot to mention earlier that I like the compass!

Aerial Attack wrote:
Nice update gimil.

I was just wondering about some things [I have not read through the thread, yet]:

1) The non-playable text ["The Atlantic Ocean," etc.] seems a bit light?

This is to help the hadrians 1 way rule stik out, but i suppose they could be a little darker.

Maybe you could make the ocean names italic, and un-italicise the Hadrian's Wall rule? That might work too?

Oh, and you've misspelt Atlantic...

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:43 pm

MrBenn wrote:Hmm... might be worth just 'fudging' the Cornwall boundary a fraction; just to keep the whole boundary on the map!

I forgot to mention earlier that I like the compass!

Aerial Attack wrote:
Nice update gimil.

I was just wondering about some things [I have not read through the thread, yet]:

1) The non-playable text ["The Atlantic Ocean," etc.] seems a bit light?

This is to help the hadrians 1 way rule stik out, but i suppose they could be a little darker.

Maybe you could make the ocean names italic, and un-italicise the Hadrian's Wall rule? That might work too?

Oh, and you've misspelt Atlantic...

hadrians wall text isnt in italics, its a differednt font.

Fixed atlantic

Risktaker17 · Post by **Risktaker17** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:45 pm

the little Europe map is very unnecessary.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:46 pm

Risktaker17 wrote:the little Europe map is very unnecessary.

yes but its decoration, to cover up unused space.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:17 pm

Guys, can you come up with a different NAME for Dummies & Galloway and Loathers & Borders?

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:19 pm

wicked wrote:Guys, can you come up with a different NAME for Dummies & Galloway and Loathers & Borders?

no that is there names, thst has always been there names in real life

and there is no substitute :wink:

WidowMakers · Post by **WidowMakers** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:10 am

wicked wrote:Guys, can you come up with a different NAME for Dummies & Galloway and Loathers & Borders?

If they need to be that name type it like this:

Dummies
...and
Galloway

Loathers
..and
Borders

Thant way the text is at least centered on itself and easier to fit into the territory.

WM

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:12 am

WidowMakers wrote:
wicked wrote:Guys, can you come up with a different NAME for Dummies & Galloway and Loathers & Borders?
If they need to be that name type it like this:

Dummies
...and
Galloway

Loathers
..and
Borders

Thant way the text is at least centered on itself and easier to fit into the territory.

WM

Wicked jsut thinks the names are stupid and GM will flip out over it.

WidowMakers · Post by **WidowMakers** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:17 am

gimil wrote:Wicked jsut thinks the names are stupid and GM will flip out over it.

I don't particularly like them either but if they need to stay, make them look like my suggestion. I think it will look better.

Spaced better, centered and cleaner.

Just my opinion.

WM

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:19 am

WidowMakers wrote:
gimil wrote:Wicked jsut thinks the names are stupid and GM will flip out over it.
I don't particularly like them either but if they need to stay, make them look like my suggestion. I think it will look better.

Spaced better, centered and cleaner.

Just my opinion.

WM

and its much appreciated as always ill take it into consideration next update

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:22 am

OK I wiki'd it.

The Scottish Borders (Scottish Gaelic: Crìochan na h-Alba), often referred to simply as the Borders, is one of 32 local government council areas of Scotland.

I see where the other one is sometimes called D&G, so I'll shut up about that one. (although I also see where it's called by their separate names too).

jasnostj · Post by **jasnostj** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:01 am

Generally, the revamping attempts look very good and are very welcome, since the original map is indeed quite ugly. I liked the flags, sorry to see them go.

One thing: for Hadrian's Wall to make sense as a one-way border, shouldn't the map theme be set in antiquity? Not much of an obstacle nowadays...

jasnostj · Post by **jasnostj** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:02 am

jasnostj wrote:One thing: for Hadrian's Wall to make sense as a one-way border to make sense, shouldn't the map theme be set in antiquity?

Balsiefen · Post by **Balsiefen** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:16 am

wicked wrote:OK I wiki'd it.

The Scottish Borders (Scottish Gaelic: Crìochan na h-Alba), often referred to simply as the Borders, is one of 32 local government council areas of Scotland.

I see where the other one is sometimes called D&G, so I'll shut up about that one. (although I also see where it's called by their separate names too).

By that it is meaning just the scottish boarders. Gimil's map includes lothian as well so the aria is lothian and boarders. Have a look at some earlier versions of my scotland map compared with the latter where we merged them together

hulmey · Post by **hulmey** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:31 am

OMG, what time lines are you guys talking about...Do you all want the same naming complaints as before? Choose a timeline and the names are as so!!

Gimil, you seem to be having problems with the Army Circles fitting into counties, most notably Isle of Man!!

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:05 am

hulmey wrote:OMG, what time lines are you guys talking about...Do you all want the same naming complaints as before? Choose a timeline and the names are as so!!

Gimil, you seem to be having problems with the Army Circles fitting into counties, most notably Isle of Man!!

the armie circles are not a problem, there is nothing wrong with them he way they are.

Also im not changing names or time times. Hadriands wall is only in as it was part of the origonal map.