The United Kingdom [Abandoned]

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:18 am

OK, so we are always going to struggle with this :roll:

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:28 am

rebelman wrote:
khazalid wrote:
have being of course indicative of the key tense. think you sinn fein still refutes the border?

as does the SDLP and most of the parties in the south not least FF. The power sharing arrangement is in place, but the goal has not changed - all nationalists and republicans still want a united Ireland - the big difference now though is all of us are (thankfully) trying to bring it about by peaceful means.

Whilst I see that you obviously have strong feelings about this matter...

I don't think it should affect the maps we have on the site...

Plenty of the maps here have disputed borders in and they are allowed to continue...

Examples...
a) Indochina
b) SE Asia
c) Europe
d) Berlin
e) All WW2 maps
f) Pearl Harbour
g) Iraq War
h) China
i) All world maps

C.

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:30 am

RobinJ · Post by **RobinJ** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:50 pm

I'm afraid I'm against this one. I don't honestly think you can make this map too much more different to the British Isles one...

rebelman · Post by **rebelman** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:40 pm

yeti_c wrote:Plenty of the maps here have disputed borders in and they are allowed to continue...

Examples...
a) Indochina
b) SE Asia
c) Europe
d) Berlin
e) All WW2 maps
f) Pearl Harbour
g) Iraq War
h) China
i) All world maps

C.

I am not disagreeing with you, but in the case of this map I (and I am just one voice) want to make my views known from the start. - if the map continues, it continues but everyone on this site has a right to comment on individual maps - that is all I am doing here.

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:41 pm

rebelman wrote:
yeti_c wrote:Plenty of the maps here have disputed borders in and they are allowed to continue...

Examples...
a) Indochina
b) SE Asia
c) Europe
d) Berlin
e) All WW2 maps
f) Pearl Harbour
g) Iraq War
h) China
i) All world maps

C.

I am not disagreeing with you, but in the case of this map I (and I am just one voice) want to make my views known from the start. - if the map continues, it continues but everyone on this site has a right to comment on individual maps - that is all I am doing here.

fair enough!

WL_southerner · Post by **WL_southerner** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:57 pm

yeti u mean like hampshire & isle of white is call wiltshire on the other britain map
if your going to inclued the republic of ireland then you should call great britain and not united kingdom

oaktown · Post by **oaktown** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 3:16 pm

i think it is valid to again raise the point that we have a map, however flawed, of this exact same region. This isn't inherently bad, as we have two USA maps and severeal similar Europe maps, all of which play very differently. Instead of just telling us that the gameplay will be different, could you give us more specifics about how the maps will differ?

The Ireland question: a map with city links a la Rails (as mentioned on page one) would avoid the need to show the N. Ireland border at all, since it would be a battle for cities and routes rather than regions.

If you insist on showing regions, I would give you the same advice I give everybody who has tried to make a Holy Land map: be very clear and specific about the time and point of view you are representing. By attaching a year to the Berlin map I could counter any arguments about the changes and evolution of Berlin division by simply saying "well, that's how it was in 1961." Likewise you can pick a modern date/period and call in North Ireland, a pre-War of Independence date and call it Ulster, or go pre-reconquest and just use county names.

This is slightly off-topic, but I'd also like to see a 17th century British Empire map that includes parts of Africa, India, Australia, North America, etc. It was, after all, the largest empire in world history.

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 3:19 pm

The problem with British Empire is that is was very spread out.

Also if he does not go with cities I (With his permission) will attempt at making one

Contron13542 · Post by **Contron13542** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:26 pm

rebelman wrote:i have to say i am not a fan of any map that includes a disputed border and which puts the people in a category that almost 50% don't want to be part of.

Also do we not already have a GB map which despite its flaws avoided this delicate historical / geo-political question.

your outline of Ireland is also flawed - for one thing at a glance cork Harbour is missing and several other errors as well - what happened to bantry bay and valentia bay mizen head has disappeared and carnsore point has moved.

no map is gonna be perfect, and this map looks to be early in development, so cut the guy some slack

ParadiceCity9 · Post by **ParadiceCity9** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:33 pm

Telvannia wrote:
ParadiceCity9 wrote:you could always just play british isles...

different gameplay.

I dont know if you realised you might as well say get rid off all the maps of geographical locations because you can always play the world map.
Now is that a good idea?

(a bit extreme i know, but look at america for a less extreme version.)

well how about just making it a different region other than the same exact countries as british isles with different gameplay...it makes more sense to me..

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:26 am

I'd rather have three kingdoms.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:03 am

Coleman wrote:I'd rather have three kingdoms.

so would i but right now im starting feudal all over again. ANd this is something different to keep my motivation a float.

Balsiefen · Post by **Balsiefen** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:45 am

ParadiceCity9 wrote:
Telvannia wrote:
ParadiceCity9 wrote:you could always just play british isles...

different gameplay.

I dont know if you realised you might as well say get rid off all the maps of geographical locations because you can always play the world map.
Now is that a good idea?

(a bit extreme i know, but look at america for a less extreme version.)

well how about just making it a different region other than the same exact countries as british isles with different gameplay...it makes more sense to me..

And how about losing the USA map as it has the exact same countries as north america but with different gameplay.

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:05 pm

Gimli?

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:41 pm

spinwizard wrote:Gimli?

expect an update soon

Kaplowitz · Post by **Kaplowitz** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:55 pm

gimil wrote:
spinwizard wrote:Gimli?

expect an update soon

ok

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:57 am

WL_southerner · Post by **WL_southerner** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:47 pm

here is all the countys in the uk

the county of avon is missing lo thats located between som and gls and carrys the letters avn

Balsiefen · Post by **Balsiefen** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:02 am

avon isn't still a county is it?

WL_southerner · Post by **WL_southerner** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:46 am

yup it is well it was up to 5 years ago when i was last living in somerset
bristol city is still admin center

Balsiefen · Post by **Balsiefen** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:48 am

ah right, i'm not very up to date with that part of the country. I was probably confusing it with somthing else

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:06 pm

Gimli!

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:16 pm

I am abandoing this idea for hte british isles revamp i have jsut recieved permission to carry out.

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:24 pm

gimil wrote:I am abandoing this idea for hte british isles revamp i have jsut recieved permission to carry out.

So can I proceed with my cities idea

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The United Kingdom [Abandoned]

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