English lady jailed for calling a teddy bear " mohamed&

graeme89 · Post by **graeme89** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:50 pm

What do muslems on thiis website think about this

graeme89 · Post by **graeme89** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:51 pm

I apologise for my mispelling

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:52 pm

Neither the title of the post nor your question make any sense, mate.

muy_thaiguy · Post by **muy_thaiguy** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:53 pm

Some random lady was arrested for calling a stuffed bear Mohammed, Islam's main prophet.

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:57 pm

muy_thaiguy wrote:Some random lady was arrested for calling a stuffed bear Mohammed, Islam's main prophet.

Ah! I see...

So why would anyone care if she did that? What makes that story interesting?

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:00 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:Some random lady was arrested for calling a stuffed bear Mohammed, Islam's main prophet.

Ah! I see...

So why would anyone care if she did that? What makes that story interesting?

She was a teacher in a school in Sudan. She let her class name the bear. Apparently it broke their laws about blasphemy. To be fair, it is a harsh punishment for something not meant with any malicious intent, but she was perhaps a little naive in deciding to name the bear Muhammad in the first place.

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:05 pm

Sure, Sudan's laws might be archaic and/or stupid. But if you go to a country, you abide by their laws, or face the punishment.

There may be extenuating circumstances, but seeing most of the bullshit tabloid headlines, I'll wait a few months before looking it up.

graeme89 · Post by **graeme89** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:09 pm

I just think its religious extremism going bsck to the medieaval times , the British Gvt should pull out all stops to have the woman returned. Teddy bears for God's sake.

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:10 pm

The1exile wrote:Sure, Sudan's laws might be archaic and/or stupid. But if you go to a country, you abide by their laws, or face the punishment.

There may be extenuating circumstances, but seeing most of the bullshit tabloid headlines, I'll wait a few months before looking it up.

Indeed. The red tops have a field day when they can throw in the fact that 'muhammad is the most popular name for new born baby boys in Britain today.'

life-saver · Post by **life-saver** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:14 pm

I believe this is right, the class voted on the bear to be called Mohammed. And that the most popular boy (maybe popular name...) was named Mohammed.

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:16 pm

life-saver wrote:I believe this is right, the class voted on the bear to be called Mohammed. And that the most popular boy (maybe popular name...) was named Mohammed.

Yep. And in the UK the class could vote to call it 'Child Fucker Pedo King' but it would still be illegal here...

Not saying its a law that I especially agree with, but it is one that she broke. As a teacher she is responsible for what happens in her class.

I think what actually happened was that the boy won the competition to name the bear and named it after himself.

Dancing Mustard · Post by **Dancing Mustard** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:18 pm

*Sigh*

I miss Norse.

This thread would be more fun with him around...

*Sigh*

muy_thaiguy · Post by **muy_thaiguy** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:19 pm

Dancing Mustard wrote:*Sigh*

I miss Norse.

This thread would be more fun with him around...

*Sigh*

QFT.

got tonkaed · Post by **got tonkaed** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:20 pm

the thing that strikes me is that, for someone coming from a country which is part of a political correctness movement (a western nation essentially) to go to a nation where political correctness may not be such a contested issue, and still make such a silly cultural snafu, seems almost absurd to me.

graeme89 · Post by **graeme89** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:20 pm

Dancing Mustard wrote:*Sigh*

I miss Norse.

This thread would be more fun with him around...

*Sigh*

Oh cant u give you're own opinion

Dancing Mustard · Post by **Dancing Mustard** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:21 pm

graeme89 wrote:
Dancing Mustard wrote:*Sigh*

I miss Norse.

This thread would be more fun with him around...

*Sigh*
Oh cant u give you're own opinion

Sorry, the German sub-forum is several pages down from here.

Now let me grieve in peace...

PS. My own opinion is that you are an assface

graeme89 · Post by **graeme89** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:26 pm

Guiscard wrote:
life-saver wrote:I believe this is right, the class voted on the bear to be called Mohammed. And that the most popular boy (maybe popular name...) was named Mohammed.

Yep. And in the UK the class could vote to call it 'Child Fucker Pedo King' but it would still be illegal here...

Not saying its a law that I especially agree with, but it is one that she broke. As a teacher she is responsible for what happens in her class.

I think what actually happened was that the boy won the competition to name the bear and named it after himself.

evout
I think it was an innocent mistake and not an insult against Islam. And what about the childrens parents ' the devout islamists whonever violate the laws of Islam but enforce it on foreignors ???
No way

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:27 pm

graeme89:

Firefox has a built in spellchecker.

http://www.getfirefox.com

go. quick.

graeme89 · Post by **graeme89** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:48 pm

The1exile wrote:graeme89:

Firefox has a built in spellchecker.

http://www.getfirefox.com

go. quick.

Ok but i would rather have a cup of tea and a digestive

khazalid · Post by **khazalid** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:04 pm

me/ jihad on u

thats right

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:05 pm

graeme89 wrote:
Guiscard wrote:
life-saver wrote:I believe this is right, the class voted on the bear to be called Mohammed. And that the most popular boy (maybe popular name...) was named Mohammed.

Yep. And in the UK the class could vote to call it 'Child Fucker Pedo King' but it would still be illegal here...

Not saying its a law that I especially agree with, but it is one that she broke. As a teacher she is responsible for what happens in her class.

I think what actually happened was that the boy won the competition to name the bear and named it after himself.

evout
I think it was an innocent mistake and not an insult against Islam. And what about the childrens parents ' the devout islamists whonever violate the laws of Islam but enforce it on foreignors ???
No way

An innocent mistake can still be considered a crime. As I've said before, it may seem barbaric (it certainly does to me) but she is living in another country and must abide by their laws. Whether or not you think it was a genuine 'insult' is by the by. She broke the law.

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:07 pm

Well now that I know the situation, I must agree with Guis and Exile...

You are a teacher... You are there to teach the kids laws and education.

If you know that naming a bear Mohammed will get you arrested, what exactly are you teaching those kids? That you are an idiot?

So, is anyone aware of what sort of punishment she could face?

RobinJ · Post by **RobinJ** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:09 pm

I thought it was very harsh to imprison here for such a menial "crime". On the other hand, it was silly on her part to let the bear be called Mohammed. We all know how zealous the Muslims are. Remember the time a British newspaper made cartoons about him and there was hell to pay?

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:16 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:Well now that I know the situation, I must agree with Guis and Exile...

You are a teacher... You are there to teach the kids laws and education.

If you know that naming a bear Mohammed will get you arrested, what exactly are you teaching those kids? That you are an idiot?

So, is anyone aware of what sort of punishment she could face?

Shes got 15 days in prison, I think... I think she may have had the choise of that, a fine or a flogging...

STUD24 · Post by **STUD24** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:17 pm

The punishment will be 40 lashings or a few months jail yet to be decided.

However the funny thing is it was the children who named the bear muhammad not the teacher. She innocently went along with the name that the children gave it not knowing that it was offensive nor direspectful.

Even worse, I believe that if it were a male in her position none of this would have happened.