Nov 5th money bomb for Ron Paul

xtratabasco · Post by **xtratabasco** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:54 am

In this one days push he has received over 4 million dollars and it crashed the servers.

https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/

http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/ron ... ne_day.htm

It was a young students idea for a nov 5 day donation push.

Fox News is going nuts and Sean Hannity is crying fowl.

Over 40,000 people have donated and it aint over yet.

give em 25 bucks for Freedom. Stop the status Que of criminal elites who are raping the middle class.

DaGip · Post by **DaGip** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:11 am

I gave $100 bucks this morning! Go, RON!!!!

Neutrino · Post by **Neutrino** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:34 am

Hmmm, I thought that said "bomb money" when I first read it.

Ron Paul is a terrorist! :shock:

freezie · Post by **freezie** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:36 am

The only type of bombs that should be fired--Money bombs.

The cure to poverty.

On a serious note...Why does politicians need so much money? When they aren't even elected?

Skoffin · Post by **Skoffin** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:39 am

Who the hell is Ron Paul?

jay_a2j · Post by **jay_a2j** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:19 am

freezie wrote:On a serious note...Why does politicians need so much money? When they aren't even elected?

To make and run TV ads./Radio ads. Ron Paul is extremely frugal with his campaign donations. And you can bet he will be too with your tax money if elected.... imagine a president who doesn't believe in wasteful spending!

Neutrino · Post by **Neutrino** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:25 am

jay_a2j wrote: Ron Paul is extremely frugal with his campaign donations. And you can bet he will be too with your tax money if elected

Wait a minute. Isn't spending more or less a president's job? How is it to my benifit (if I lived in the US, that is) for the president to horde cash? Aren't they supposed to be spending it on things? The US economy does not operate on frugality, it operates on the threat of military action and lots and lots of money.

DaGip · Post by **DaGip** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:49 am

Neutrino wrote:
jay_a2j wrote: Ron Paul is extremely frugal with his campaign donations. And you can bet he will be too with your tax money if elected

Wait a minute. Isn't spending more or less a president's job? How is it to my benifit (if I lived in the US, that is) for the president to horde cash? Aren't they supposed to be spending it on things? The US economy does not operate on frugality, it operates on the threat of military action and lots and lots of money.

The current government runs off the premise of debt. The system in place is a debtor's system. What that means is that our money (the good ol' US Dollar) isn't worth anything! And all this military spending is putting our nation into even greater debt, since the US has to borrow money from the Central Banking families at interest. So that means that every American dollar you have in your pocket, you are paying more back to the government to pay off the interest the government owes to Rothschild and the like. And the more in debt America becomes, the richer the Central Banking families become. They got so much money that they don't really give a crap about the United States...since they can pretty much just buy another country.

America needs a new monetary system, one that is backed by something of worth and not by debt. At one time, American money was backed by a certain amount of gold. All that gold was confiscated illegally by the Federal Government in the thirties and the Central Bank was formed. It was the biggest bank robbery ever! And nobody did anything about it, they just let it happen. All these guns in America and we just let the Federal government run over us at will!

If you haven't noticed, the AMerican Dollar is getting the living crud kicked out of it in the market. Canada is even beating the dollar now! This is because we owe sooo much money to other countries for being allowed to do business in their countries that the value of the dollar is getting cut. America is in trouble financially...and all these natural disasters aren't helping matters any. We need to get our troops home and worry about our country here at home, and not push some stupid idealogical war far across the friggin' ocean!

jay_a2j · Post by **jay_a2j** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:52 am

Neutrino wrote:
jay_a2j wrote: Ron Paul is extremely frugal with his campaign donations. And you can bet he will be too with your tax money if elected

Wait a minute. Isn't spending more or less a president's job? How is it to my benifit (if I lived in the US, that is) for the president to horde cash? Aren't they supposed to be spending it on things? The US economy does not operate on frugality, it operates on the threat of military action and lots and lots of money.

Wasteful spending. Like the Billions we could save if we brought our troops back from Iraq. It is NOT to our benefit to be in the Trillions of dollars in debt that we are. Something has to give.....you can't keep spending money you don't have and not expect consequences.

**fastposted**

heavycola · Post by **heavycola** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:01 am

is ron paul the new dubya? A one-act internet play.

[flag-waving jingoists enter stage left)

chorus: clinton is a lying/sleazy/wastfeul/rubbish president.

But wait! here comes dubya! He's a bit like wyatt earp!

(fast forward 7 years)

Bush is a wasteful/moronic/misguided/rubbish president.

But wait! Here comes Ron Paul! He's a bit like wyatt earp!

etc.

etc.

THE END

Elwar · Post by **Elwar** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:31 am

Pretty good. Now for the follow up - buying votes.

jay_a2j · Post by **jay_a2j** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:32 am

Ron Paul has a consistent record. He follows the constitution, not polls or a lust for power.

Elwar · Post by **Elwar** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:34 am

Following the constitution shouldn't take precedence over common sense.

Roe vs. Wade etc.

Neutrino · Post by **Neutrino** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:59 am

jay_a2j wrote: He follows the constitution

How is this necessilary a good thing? The document is hundreds of years old. The majority of the values of the time that it was created in have been dead since long before the beginning of the 20th century. It has had to be Ammended 27 times (if memory serves) because many of these values are no longer acceptable in western society!

If you want to live in a world with intellectually inferior black people and socially inferior women, then the US Consitiution is the document for you. If you want to give some sort of vague nod to progress, however, then a more up-to-date document might be more your style (or, better yet, don't let a piece of paper dictate your beliefs!)

Sorry, bit busy. Will respond to that big post when I get the time :lol:

radiojake · Post by **radiojake** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:21 am

jay_a2j wrote:Ron Paul has a consistent record. He follows the constitution, not polls or a lust for power.

No, he is only gunning for the President of the USA.... but he doesn't have a lust for power.

Think about it, any politician who runs for President/Prime Minister/Emporer has a lust for power. Why else would he/she run for it?

It's also funny that people even think they need someone or some party to govern them in there lives. Are they too pathetic to live on their own merits? But that's another issue.

Also, Dagip, just a question. Do you normally (or have you previously) given campaign donations? I just find it odd that people would actually give money in that situation. Do you own or run a business that would directly benifit from some kickbacks or kudos if he is elected? Or just a common citizen who really wants to see him win. Just wondering, not giving you shit or anything.

jay_a2j · Post by **jay_a2j** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:45 am

Neutrino wrote:
jay_a2j wrote: He follows the constitution

How is this necessilary a good thing? The document is hundreds of years old. The majority of the values of the time that it was created in have been dead since long before the beginning of the 20th century. It has had to be Ammended 27 times (if memory serves) because many of these values are no longer acceptable in western society!

If you want to live in a world with intellectually inferior black people and socially inferior women, then the US Consitiution is the document for you. If you want to give some sort of vague nod to progress, however, then a more up-to-date document might be more your style (or, better yet, don't let a piece of paper dictate your beliefs!)

Sorry, bit busy. Will respond to that big post when I get the time

Obviously as we move through time, things change and hence, the Amendments. But the basics still remain the same. When you have people trying today to remove the 2nd Amendment and infringe on others.... something is wrong. Some of us will welcome the new world even after giving up most of our basic freedoms.... and others, like me, kinda feel like these rights have grown on us and we'd like to keep them. Give up your firearms, your freedom of speech, your right to a trial by jury, your right to peacefully protest....but do not ask me to.

jay_a2j · Post by **jay_a2j** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:51 am

radiojake wrote: Think about it, any politician who runs for President/Prime Minister/Emporer has a lust for power. Why else would he/she run for it?

Someone who wants to save their nation from collapsing? Someone who sees the direction the country has been going and knows that, if we want to remain a free, sovereign nation, we need to change course?

Just a guess.... (and I know...its been a LONG, LONG time since we had a presidential candidate who actually cared about this country)

Neutrino · Post by **Neutrino** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:16 am

jay_a2j wrote:When you have people trying today to remove the 2nd Amendment

How is this, by default, a bad thing? It wasn't in the original constitution, therefore not automatically correct even by your narrow definition.

jay_a2j wrote:Some of us will welcome the new world even after giving up most of our basic freedoms.... and others, like me, kinda feel like these rights have grown on us and we'd like to keep them. Give up your firearms, your freedom of speech, your right to a trial by jury, your right to peacefully protest....but do not ask me to.

Please, point me to the appropriate paragraph where I stated that I did not value any of these (except the firearms one). It is possible to value freedom of speech without supporting absolutely everything a 200-year old document states.

jay_a2j · Post by **jay_a2j** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:35 am

Neutrino wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:When you have people trying today to remove the 2nd Amendment

How is this, by default, a bad thing? It wasn't in the original constitution, therefore not automatically correct even by your narrow definition.

Because, the right to bear arms is important so if one day, heaven forbid, a dictator surfaces, martial law is proclaimed or the Constitution suspended... the people are armed to defend themselves against our own government. A people without the means to defend themselves are at the mercy of the government.

heavycola · Post by **heavycola** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:57 am

jay_a2j wrote:
radiojake wrote: Think about it, any politician who runs for President/Prime Minister/Emporer has a lust for power. Why else would he/she run for it?

Someone who wants to save their nation from collapsing? Someone who sees the direction the country has been going and knows that, if we want to remain a free, sovereign nation, we need to change course?

Just a guess.... (and I know...its been a LONG, LONG time since we had a presidential candidate who actually cared about this country)

you're forgetting george bush, jay, the current president. According to you, i mean. I don't agree.

jay_a2j · Post by **jay_a2j** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:05 am

heavycola wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
radiojake wrote: Think about it, any politician who runs for President/Prime Minister/Emporer has a lust for power. Why else would he/she run for it?

Someone who wants to save their nation from collapsing? Someone who sees the direction the country has been going and knows that, if we want to remain a free, sovereign nation, we need to change course?

Just a guess.... (and I know...its been a LONG, LONG time since we had a presidential candidate who actually cared about this country)

you're forgetting george bush, jay, the current president. According to you, i mean. I don't agree.

Well then we agree on something! (I'll be right back....gotta call CNN) :wink:

heavycola · Post by **heavycola** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:20 am

jay_a2j wrote:
heavycola wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
radiojake wrote: Think about it, any politician who runs for President/Prime Minister/Emporer has a lust for power. Why else would he/she run for it?

Someone who wants to save their nation from collapsing? Someone who sees the direction the country has been going and knows that, if we want to remain a free, sovereign nation, we need to change course?

Just a guess.... (and I know...its been a LONG, LONG time since we had a presidential candidate who actually cared about this country)

you're forgetting george bush, jay, the current president. According to you, i mean. I don't agree.

Well then we agree on something! (I'll be right back....gotta call CNN)

First up - avoid CNN. They are in the pay of our reptilian NWO overlords.

Also - we agree that... dubya is a great president? I missed that part.

radiojake · Post by **radiojake** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:56 am

jay_a2j wrote:Some of us will welcome the new world even after giving up most of our basic freedoms.... and others, like me, kinda feel like these rights have grown on us and we'd like to keep them. Give up your firearms, your freedom of speech, your right to a trial by jury, your right to peacefully protest....but do not ask me to.

Heh, it's ironic because we have no 'freedom' anymore anyway. No one has ever really had 'freedom' - not for centuries. We all had to go to school, and then we had to go get a shitty job that you will ultimately not like. Why would we work our entire lives if we hated what we were doing?? Reason: We're not actually free at all. - Granted, some countries have it better than others (and I do consider myself lucky to have grown up where I have) but the fact is no one is free that lives in civilization. All these 'constitutional' rights as such are only there to give the illusion that we are free.
A fine example. We're allowed the right to peacefully protest. Yeah that sounds good, I'm down with that. Too bad peaceful protest doesn't work or do shit. (Iraqi war protests are fine example. Millions world wide protested that, but didn't change shit - Democracy at it's greatest. The illusion of 'freedom') -

Also I just noticed something. Do you not agree with violent protesting? If so, why do own a gun?

xtratabasco · Post by **xtratabasco** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:12 am

Skoffin wrote: Who the hell is Ron Paul?

thank you for asking

This website has many film clips and other info....

Meet Congressman Ron Paul, Presidential Candidate 2008
http://www.apfn.org/APFN/RONPAUL.HTM

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:39 am

I'm gonna vote Ron Paul!