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The uniquivicable truth to the fact that C*C is 100% luck.

Post by KnightWulfe »

Study every game that I have played with dig-it.

He uses ZERO strategy. He marches until he no longer has men to march forth. 99.9% of my attacks on him are at a 3 attackers to 1 defender odds. I lose 72% of those battles.

I have won 4 games to his 17 against me.

The die system on this site is crap and needs to be evaluated and redone.
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Complain to random.org, they provide CC with the numbers.
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i agree almost totaly with what you say. Whether you win or lose here is hugely influenced by the luck you get. I guess you could state that if two people have the same luck, then stratagy plays a larger role.

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Unequivocal.
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Post by comic boy »

Yes I find that hopeless players get all the bad luck :lol:
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Post by wcaclimbing »

KnightWulfe wrote:He uses ZERO strategy. He marches until he no longer has men to march forth.....

I have won 4 games to his 17 against me.


If he is winning so many games against you, then why do you say he has ZERO strategy? maybe what he is doing is the perfect way to beat YOU.

also, you arent the only one that wants good dice. your OPPONENT wants good dice, also. so if you got all the good dice, he would get all bad and then HE would be the one complaining that the dice are not fair.

And also, i saw this:

KnightWulfe:
Rank: Cadet
Score: 813


Your score is rather low, implying that your strategy isnt that great either.
Why dont you try and figure out a way to beat someone playing the way he does instead of wasting your time complaining about the dice?
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or you could just stop playing games with him. :roll:
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hahahahhahahahahahhah...... more question's/complaints/etc should be answered by cartoon.
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Post by softstarz »

maybe what he is doing is the perfect way to beat YOU.


That's a good point, but I still think KnightWulfe is on to something. If you simply analyzed the sheer stats of hundreds and hundreds of attacks, provided you compare full attacks, I'm sure you would find statistical outliers more often than one would hope to find in a normal sample. When you look at the attacks alone and the concept of rolling dice, strategy is a moot point (if it's 3 v. 2 like i said).
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Post by BlackIrish »

As with all games, a certain amount of luck is involved. But risk/CC is a game of strategy. You need to build your armies and make sure you will have a high chance of success when attacking. So, build armies, attack wisely, and most importantly, THINK!!!!
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Post by RobinJ »

If it is all about luck then why do the top guys consistently win with style and the bottom guys consistently lose?
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Post by Seike »

I get bad luck sometimes but I could just as easily get the same luck with real dice. Luck games in general hate me, I think.
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RobinJ wrote:If it is all about luck then why do the top guys consistently win with style and the bottom guys consistently lose?


because robinette has a card hacker.
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Post by zarvinny »

Dice WINS and loses games, but a score of under 1200 is unacceptable
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Post by CecilDK »

Strategy has something to do with it however luck does play a large role. Something like 60% Luck and 40% Strategy where luck plays a slightly larger role because even the best laid plans of men can be thwarted by a string of bad dice rolls.

It's kind of like poker, where for the most part the people that know what they are doing perform better overtime but every once in a while a fool will get lucky...nothing can change that in a game that is based in random chance. You can try and execute your strategy and hope that lady luck doesn't kick you in the nuts and steal your wallet and run off with fate leaving you with the kids.(yeah she can be a real b$*#$ sometimes)
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Post by stringybeany »

I've got news for you:

Over the long haul, it's all skill.
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Post by bloknayrb »

Maybe you should try holding off on attacking, since it doesn't seem to work for you? Try building up a few more pieces somewhere...
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Post by badbrains »

the only strategy i can recommend, is to ignore the players that constantly use chat to tell me how to play my next turn. as if they want me to win?!
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Post by tracedout »

i have around a 2:1 1v1 record in my last 40 or so games, (without using any freestyle tricks) so i'd say skill and tactics give you a definite advantage. or maybe i'm just playing a bunch of noobs


CecilDK wrote:It's kind of like poker, where for the most part the people that know what they are doing perform better overtime but every once in a while a fool will get lucky...nothing can change that in a game that is based in random chance. You can try and execute your strategy and hope that lady luck doesn't kick you in the nuts and steal your wallet and run off with fate leaving you with the kids.(yeah she can be a real b$*#$ sometimes)


yeah. also, if you play poker, you understand the concept of pot odds. try to apply that to conquer club.
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stringybeany wrote:I've got news for you:

Over the long haul, it's all skill.
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Post by Dr_Demento »

I'm a newbie here (but not to war games) so my advice means nothin, but i gotta throw in my 2 cents worth anyway :D

If the "dice" are truly random then theres no such thing as LUCK, and yet, everyone FEELS they have had good luck or bad luck. Before you hit that attack button, make sure you FEEL lucky. I'll bet any long time board game player will get what I mean. :wink:
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Post by Robinette »

The1exile wrote:
RobinJ wrote:If it is all about luck then why do the top guys consistently win with style and the bottom guys consistently lose?


because robinette has a card hacker.


ah, but it broke and then i lost 23 consecutive games...

but i did it with style
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Post by khazalid »

'unequivocal'
had i been wise, i would have seen that her simplicity cost her a fortune
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Post by jimboston »

khazalid wrote:'unequivocal'


LOL

How many posts did it take for someone to notice this?

LOL

Is spelling correctly all luck too... perhaps we all just
randomly tap away at these keyboards.

(Just bustin' ya!)
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