OK. There has been quite a few posts since I went to work
I will try my best to look over everyone and work it into the topics.
But first I would like to clarify my initial purpose of this thread. If I have mislead people or made mistakes I am sorry it was not my intent. This thread grew much faster than I had thought it would and the variety of responses does not allow me to get to them all right away. As I tried to do that I lost track of my original goal for this topic.
THE ACTUAL INTENTION OF THIS THREAD
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I wanted to make a thread discussing the topic of evolution verses creation.
The purpose was not to PROVE either. Since no one was actually there when God made the universe or when the BIG BANG happened humans are left with the recorded past and the present.
-I wanted to look at the creation/evolution issues one by one. They are so intermingled that you must look at each one individually then look at how that might affect other issues closely related. (I.E. Fossils and rock strata)
-For each topic, analyze the actual facts (things we can touch, sample, see, or measure today)and how each side uses that data to come to conclusions.
-Then compare each side of the story. In a particular case does evolution make more sense? Does creation make more sense? Or do both side make compelling arguments that neither side is more convincing than the other.
This way we are looking at many topics. The side that seems to have the most compelling argument for the most topics would seem to be the most reliable.
I will requote myself from the first post to clarify how each side has the same FACTS. It is the interpretation, assumptions, and use of these facts/assumptions that give the different points of view.
1) We all have the same facts or discoveries.
We are all on the same earth. Meaning both parties can look at rock formations, fossils, the universe, cell development, genetic code, etc.
Neither group has special info the other group does not have.
2) No one today was alive at the formation of the earth, universe, etc.
So any opinion on this point is just an assumption. That brings me to point three.
3) Both sides (evolution and creation) have assumptions that are used to support their views of the physical world.
Ex. Earth has fossils (FACT).
Does anyone disagree with these three statements?
I want to get this straight before we go into topics. It will allow for a orderly and consistent method from which we can debate.
I will wait for some responses. After there is discussion and agreement to the post above (with agreed upon adjustments as necessary), we can start picking topics (fossil, DNA, rock strata, Carbon dating, Nylon bacteria, etc) and look at them one at a time.
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Again I hope everyone is enjoying this discussion. It is a lot of work to take the time and write out thoughts and opinions on such an important and controversial topic. I appreciate the time everyone spends on it.
My hope is that a slower, more centered topical debate will help keep the thread in order and allow for a more structured discussion.
Well I have a couple more maps to edit. Talk to everyone later.
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