lybim 2 player freestyle abuse

ICAN · Post by **ICAN** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 2:29 am

An interesting way to cheat was just done to me.
in a 2 player freestyle game one can save their turn until one minute before the 24 hours is up and since I was the last person the previous round I can not make a move until opponent does. The net result is i lose a turn, lose a chance to get a card in an escalating card game, and opponent gets 2 turns completely changing game.

see below play by play
007-10-08 06:05:25 - ICAN gets a card (I am last to play, thus can not start a round 7 turn)
2007-10-08 06:05:25 - Incrementing game to round 7 (23 hours 57 minutes elapse before his turn)
2007-10-09 06:02:52 - lybim receives 5 armies for 15 territories
2007-10-09 06:04:14 - lybim gets a card ( I now have one minute to make a turn)
2007-10-09 06:05:25 - ICAN missed a turn
2007-10-09 06:05:25 - Incrementing game to round 8 ( 4 seconds after my "missed turn" he goes again)
2007-10-09 06:05:29 - lybim receives 5 armies for holding Europe

anyone think this is a problem?

JCsolidrock · Post by **JCsolidrock** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:24 am

Perfectly legal, if you don't like it, don't play freestyle. Play sequential.

Kid_A · Post by **Kid_A** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:16 am

JCsolidrock wrote:Perfectly legal, if you don't like it, don't play freestyle. Play sequential.

what he said

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:41 am

It isn't cheating... Read the rules of the game before playing it...

Yadda yadda... This needs to be freakin' stickied.

nikola_milicki · Post by **nikola_milicki** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:14 pm

yup its legal :roll:

but play like that is just too fu*king pathetic, bad thing about these miserable muthaf@#kers is that they cant be hanged by the balls cuz they're dickless pussies

ICAN · Post by **ICAN** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:54 pm

this is a known abuseive practice:

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... highlight=

It looks like the issue has been discussed and that 2/3 of the people voted for the rule change proposed and that will make cheating/abusing the freestyle game in that fashion impossible. Puzzling to see the tactic defended though, the game is not meant to be played where you are glued to the computer at a certain time. I will direct you to the cc homepage

"Designed for the casual gamer, playing Conquer Club is not a time consuming process. You can take your turn in 5 minutes with your morning cup of coffee or in between classes"

MeDeFe · Post by **MeDeFe** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:22 pm

It's a tactic for people who couldn't win otherwise. And the reason why I don't play freestyle.

stevieQ · Post by **stevieQ** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:47 pm

I am always surprised that people here think these are reasonable ways to play your games. This is the reason I stopped playing freestyle a while back. There's always the risk that you'll get into a game with someone who doesn't care about having good game play to win.

I'm all for strategy within the game, but when you're manipulating the clock to win I think it's pretty pathetic.

joecoolfrog · Post by **joecoolfrog** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:31 pm

JCsolidrock wrote:Perfectly legal, if you don't like it, don't play freestyle. Play sequential.

So if its legal that makes it ok does it !
JC would be very proud of that way of thinking im sure

Herakilla · Post by **Herakilla** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:18 pm

once the freestyle changes take affect the time window is much smaller and thus this should be minimized, even i might start playing freestyle

DaGip · Post by **DaGip** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:01 am

I have seen it done many times by pathetic losers...I choose not to play freestyle. Sequential is my cup o'tea! I suggest you do the same :lol:

hasaki · Post by **hasaki** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:02 pm

Everyone knows this is a problem. If its used on you just do it right back at them. That way you get an army double the armies that turn for missing one and still take the next turn. And missing a round or tow could also be of a help.