Worldwide Football Hooligan Firm Clash [WINNER: ultraman]

dragon dor · Post by **dragon dor** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:26 pm

GROUP H
BLACK DRAGON BEAT THE C-CREW 2-0

dragon dor · Post by **dragon dor** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:33 pm

GROUP H
BLACK DRAGOON EAT HUYFC KILLERS 2-0

dragon dor · Post by **dragon dor** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:34 pm

dragon dor wrote:GROUP H
BLACK DRAGOON EAT HYUFC KILLERS 2-0

cena-rules · Post by **cena-rules** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:35 pm

man I got owned.

*starts whinging about the dice in all his games*

dragon and ken will beack me up

Ryall55 · Post by **Ryall55** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 5:18 pm

Group G all comes down to the firm clash

lol this tournament is great

i have to win the firm clash to go through

BlackIrish · Post by **BlackIrish** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:05 pm

House Heroes 2-0 BSK
House Heroes 2-0 Devils
House Heroes 0-2 Ben Side

Firm Clash...it's on!

Clive · Post by **Clive** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:43 pm

Zemljanin wrote:
Clive wrote:
Norse wrote:However, if he doesnt join before 5th october midnight, a win will be awarded to you.

The replacment in my group looks like he's going to forfeit all the singles cos none of his current 4 games look likely to finish before then.

I have several objections:

1) It was strongly suggested that freemiums must start 4p game first, because it's so much longer than 1-1. So I took that as really the only imperative. If a freemium played 1-1 games first (otherwise than suggested), he could finish several games (even all of them) and still manage to start the firm clash a minute before deadline.

2) Even if Oct 5 midnight is a deadline for everybody, this deadline should be two days later for me, since I (being a reserve) had two days less.

3) Eight 4p games just began. At least few of them will last very long. So there is more than enough time to finish all 1-1 games before the last 4p.

I think it's unhealthy to make an atmosphere of hope to win games otherwise than by playing (sorry, English isn't my native language). I mean, if there are freemiums in some group - a premiums from that group have much bigger chance for good placement if they play as slow as they can (23 ours for every turn). It's unhealthy, isn't it?
This way a tournament could be much, much slower and longer than if some games start later than they should...

And if some freemium lose 1-1 games by decision of tournament director - he's actually punished for obeying recommendations (start 4p games first).

Please, let everybody think of it

Well I agree that you should have an extension so you have the same amount of time to join that everyone else had. But i still don't think you have a hope in hell of managing it.

Other than that i disagree. Norse stated clearly the requirements, and you knew you shouldnt have joined if you didn't have enough free slots. Simonov is managing fine in our group.

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:09 am

In group C's standings a little mistake: Bad gones won at home against Za boys ultra.

Norse · Post by **Norse** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:16 am

Clive wrote:
Zemljanin wrote:
Clive wrote:
Norse wrote:However, if he doesnt join before 5th october midnight, a win will be awarded to you.

The replacment in my group looks like he's going to forfeit all the singles cos none of his current 4 games look likely to finish before then.

I have several objections:

1) It was strongly suggested that freemiums must start 4p game first, because it's so much longer than 1-1. So I took that as really the only imperative. If a freemium played 1-1 games first (otherwise than suggested), he could finish several games (even all of them) and still manage to start the firm clash a minute before deadline.

2) Even if Oct 5 midnight is a deadline for everybody, this deadline should be two days later for me, since I (being a reserve) had two days less.

3) Eight 4p games just began. At least few of them will last very long. So there is more than enough time to finish all 1-1 games before the last 4p.

I think it's unhealthy to make an atmosphere of hope to win games otherwise than by playing (sorry, English isn't my native language). I mean, if there are freemiums in some group - a premiums from that group have much bigger chance for good placement if they play as slow as they can (23 ours for every turn). It's unhealthy, isn't it?
This way a tournament could be much, much slower and longer than if some games start later than they should...

And if some freemium lose 1-1 games by decision of tournament director - he's actually punished for obeying recommendations (start 4p games first).

Please, let everybody think of it

Well I agree that you should have an extension so you have the same amount of time to join that everyone else had. But i still don't think you have a hope in hell of managing it.

Other than that i disagree. Norse stated clearly the requirements, and you knew you shouldnt have joined if you didn't have enough free slots. Simonov is managing fine in our group.

I will give you an extension until 7th october.....but If you cant fill your slots before then, then Im afraid the wins will be awarded to your opponents.

Norse · Post by **Norse** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:20 am

ga7 wrote:In group C's standings a little mistake: Bad gones won at home against Za boys ultra.

Ok, I will fix this a little later

TheKidsTrumpet · Post by **TheKidsTrumpet** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:29 am

Woo, so glad I'm advancing.

Simonov · Post by **Simonov** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:47 am

book 2 points for me norse!

DAZMCFC · Post by **DAZMCFC** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:53 am

Young guvnors v ICF won both home and away. walkover. :lol:

Raceinvader · Post by **Raceinvader** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:32 am

i got a point from clive.

Norse · Post by **Norse** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:19 pm

Standings Updated!

Nice one raceinvader for taking a point from clive...Now I'm just hoping for grobari to give him a 2-way whitewashing... :lol:

Norse · Post by **Norse** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:20 pm

Black Dragoon storm-trooped group H! 6 out of 6...watch out for that one :wink:

TheKidsTrumpet · Post by **TheKidsTrumpet** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:09 am

Hey the Bad Blue Boys & us Utrecht Hooligans aren't too close behind with 5-1.

(Btdub the standings now have group F twice and no group G)

Raceinvader · Post by **Raceinvader** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:40 am

cheers norse for the congrats

Clive · Post by **Clive** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:09 am

Norse wrote:Standings Updated!

Nice one raceinvader for taking a point from clive...Now I'm just hoping for grobari to give him a 2-way whitewashing...

Thanks for telling them to pick on me you twat, they've all ganged on me in the firm clash so i'm going to be first elim.

Norse · Post by **Norse** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:33 am

Clive wrote:
Norse wrote:Standings Updated!

Nice one raceinvader for taking a point from clive...Now I'm just hoping for grobari to give him a 2-way whitewashing...

Thanks for telling them to pick on me you twat, they've all ganged on me in the firm clash so i'm going to be first elim.

Im sure you will be fine.

Norse · Post by **Norse** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:34 am

Besides...that wouldnt nessacarily be the best tactics for your groupies to take...youve practically already qualified...

Clive · Post by **Clive** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:28 am

Norse wrote:Besides...that wouldnt nessacarily be the best tactics for your groupies to take...youve practically already qualified...

I know, only if raceinvader wins and Simonov comes runner up, in which case i'll have a playoff...assuming Zem does have to forfeit the singles, as is looking very likely. But they are anyway, dammit!

Hence i am suiciding on raceinvader.

Simonov · Post by **Simonov** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:49 am

Clive wrote:
Norse wrote:Standings Updated!

Nice one raceinvader for taking a point from clive...Now I'm just hoping for grobari to give him a 2-way whitewashing...

Thanks for telling them to pick on me you twat, they've all ganged on me in the firm clash so i'm going to be first elim.

sorry i u think that but i only attacked for territory and you blocked me from taking a continent, it would be good for me if u and i took 2 lead spots in that clash...

ps norse are u afraid that clive will win and have to sleep over at your place? :lol:

Clive · Post by **Clive** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:01 pm

Simonov wrote:sorry i u think that but i only attacked for territory and you blocked me from taking a continent, it would be good for me if u and i took 2 lead spots in that clash...

Zem has conquered 6 total terr's, 5 of which were from me. You have conquered 5 total terr's, 3 of which were from me. Raceinvader 5 total terr's, 2 from me.

10/16 of my opp's conquered terr's have been from me, after 4 rounds. And it wasnt like i got a cont on the drop or anything.

ps norse are u afraid that clive will win and have to sleep over at your place?

LOL...I live in Bristol not fucking America, it's like an hour on the train! :lol:

I think he's just jelous that i have a perfect record on him!

Zemljanin · Post by **Zemljanin** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:54 pm

Clive wrote:Zem has conquered 6 total terr's, 5 of which were from me.

Well, you're not very objective...
First you attacked my Mt. Gambier to connect and take card. I then swapped Port Lincoln for Adelaide and took card. You took Port Lincoln and a card. I took Lake Eyre for connection and a card (leaving only 1, so you could take card also). All that moves had sense.
Then you attacked my 5 units Adelaide, only to spend 4 yours and 3 mine units. You had no chances to conquer and keep continent, so damage we both suffered was meaningless.
Later I swapped Gippsland for Eureka and took Mt. Gambier for connection.

Therefore, you absolutely can't say that I played specially against you...

P.S. I even chose not to eliminate you and spent my 13 bonus to prevent them from it (which I could easily be sorry for :roll:

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Worldwide Football Hooligan Firm Clash [WINNER: ultraman]

WINNER

WINER

Re: WINER

Norse

Finally some points

clive