Roman Empire Map [Abandoned]

seamusmacdeath · Post by **seamusmacdeath** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:43 pm

Hey All,
Here's a Roman Empire map I've been working on for about a week or so. It includes all of the empire plus tribute states and warring states from about 117 CE. Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks to Rob (spiegelprime) and Andy (GrimlicMacDeath) for their advice and help. Of course I will resize when all the alterations are done.

-Mike
(SeamusMacDeath)
michaelibraff@hotmail.com

Mod Edit: This map has been marked as Abandoned by KEYOGI.

dagreatbroomhead · Post by **dagreatbroomhead** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:45 pm

the Balkans and Africa are the first two things that need changing. Africa has way too many boarded to defend for the amount of troop bonuses it gets. i also think that Balkans will be too hard to hold, if need be i suggest taking out some connections all over, i mean the map doesn't have to be geographically accurate.

medwards · Post by **medwards** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:08 pm

good job mike.

ps. your a douche

seamusmacdeath · Post by **seamusmacdeath** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:49 pm

dagreatbroomhead wrote:the Balkans and Africa are the first two things that need changing. Africa has way too many boarded to defend for the amount of troop bonuses it gets. i also think that Balkans will be too hard to hold, if need be i suggest taking out some connections all over, i mean the map doesn't have to be geographically accurate.

Thanks for the input. The main point of Africa having so many borders is that I think we need a way to more easily move about the map. This way, I can get from Iberia to the Near eastby going through Africa as opposed to the northern continents (which will most likely be heavily fortified). Plus, I thinnk the reinforcements gained from holding Africa are substantial enough.

Regarding the Balkans, I suppose I could remove the connection between Greece and Galatia, or between Sicily and Leptis...what does everyone else think?

Machiavelli · Post by **Machiavelli** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:47 pm

I think that the map is definetly playable but for lack to make it an official conquer club map it needs to look a little more professional. Perhaps either a change of color or make it look like it has texture.

Marvaddin · Post by **Marvaddin** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:21 pm

Your map is much more balanced than classic or others already avaliable. Your country dispersion is 8, 8, 8, 7, 6, 5, and the dipersion of classic (only for example) is 12, 9, 7, 6, 4, 4. Its good something new, I only dont know if its your intention.

I think you need change some bonus. See, Anatolia have 7 armies bonus, and 6 border countries. Ok, but take Assiria and borders will greatly decrease. Then, its obvious attack Balkans, and soon you can have 9 bonus armies with only 2 borders. Its much more difficult hold Africa, and the bonus for Africa is 6. Expand from Iberia is also much more difficult than expand from Anatolia. I believe the greatest bonus should be of a gigantic continent (11 - 12 countries) with more routes. Anatolia is linked only to 2 other continents. Italia (with some countries added) can be that continent, because its in a good central position. If you dont think how change the borders of continents, dont do it, only divide some countries in 2, fuse some others...

Regarding the Balkans, I suppose I could remove the connection between Greece and Galatia, or between Sicily and Leptis...what does everyone else think?

Yeah, I think you should remove this connections, and Greece - Cyrene too. Maybe add between Sardinia and Carthage.

These are my ideas, Im doing a constructive criticism. I dont need other people angry with me because of them. :wink:

Spicy! · Post by **Spicy!** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:31 pm

Balkans has the same amount of borders as Anatolia but less than half the bonus?

thegrimsleeper · Post by **thegrimsleeper** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:38 pm

I'd just like to point out that this thread is THE DEVIL!!!

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=666 <---- :twisted:

seamusmacdeath · Post by **seamusmacdeath** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:43 pm

Spicy! wrote:Balkans has the same amount of borders as Anatolia but less than half the bonus?

um, actually, no. Balkans have 4 (of 6 total territories), Anatolia has 6 (of 8 total territories).

For example, as much as I like the Asia map that is on the site, it is incredibly easy to hold Oceania, Japan, and India. And the same can be said for Oceania in Classic. For those maps a win or loss is heavily determined by placement at the begining of the game. With my map, it is much more difficult to get that initial continent and hold it, so it comes down more to strategy and luck of the dice.

But marv makes some good points. I will have to take out some of the connections, but I wanted a map that is difficult to control. That being said, this might be too hard, and I don't want it to be impossible.

As for the comment about the look of the map, I will note mine is similar to, if not better looking than, spiegelprime's Middle East map (don't get me wrong, I really, really like Rob's map and besides, he is a sexy dood...). But I'll be sure to dress up any version that garners approval from Lack.

Keep it coming,
Mike

RLeary06 · Post by **RLeary06** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:02 am

6 borders is too hard to hold. So is 4, with a 3 bonus. Neither in the Asia map nor the Classic are there continents with 6 borders.

seamusmacdeath · Post by **seamusmacdeath** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:54 pm

RLeary06 wrote:6 borders is too hard to hold. So is 4, with a 3 bonus. Neither in the Asia map nor the Classic are there continents with 6 borders.

Right, but if you take Armenia, suddenly there are only 3 borders...but yeah, i'm going to have to fix one or two countries in Anatolia since there is so much dissent over it. perhaps i'll make it so Cyprus does not connect to the Near East at all...

supermarcol · Post by **supermarcol** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:59 pm

It looks like it could play well but I think it looks a lot like the europe map... just saying.

johnnyrotten · Post by **johnnyrotten** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:02 pm

supermarcol wrote:It looks like it could play well but I think it looks a lot like the europe map... just saying.

Well what would you expect... :roll:

seamusmacdeath · Post by **seamusmacdeath** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:15 pm

johnnyrotten wrote:
supermarcol wrote:It looks like it could play well but I think it looks a lot like the europe map... just saying.

Well what would you expect...

thank you johnny.

and for the record, i started this map before i saw the europe map... :wink:

supermarcol · Post by **supermarcol** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:18 pm

I'm not saying you copied your map or your map is not as good, I'm just wondering if its good to have 2 maps that are so similar.

areon · Post by **areon** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:29 pm

Well this is a Rome esque map, so some historical flavor can explain the point allocations. I think it's a good representation and only have one question. Are Genua and Narbonensis connected?

seamusmacdeath · Post by **seamusmacdeath** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:14 pm

areon wrote:Well this is a Rome esque map, so some historical flavor can explain the point allocations. I think it's a good representation and only have one question. Are Genua and Narbonensis connected?

nope. alps.

craig84 · Post by **craig84** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:49 am

so i wanted to point out that the bonus' are not really ideal for the map, and u need to shut off some borders so there isnt as big a range of attacking from everywhere

seamusmacdeath · Post by **seamusmacdeath** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:45 pm

craig84 wrote:so i wanted to point out that the bonus' are not really ideal for the map, and u need to shut off some borders so there isnt as big a range of attacking from everywhere

for all future suggestions: please read the WHOLE thread so you know what has been said and dealt with already. otherwise we just end up repeating the same arguement over and over. thanks.

-mike

cheese man · Post by **cheese man** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 5:01 am

needs a bit more graphics but otherwise good

Nobunaga · Post by **Nobunaga** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:16 am

... The Alps didn't stop Hannibal and his elephants, eh? :wink:

ParadiceCity9 · Post by **ParadiceCity9** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:35 pm

i like this map

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:00 am

You are retarded.

oaktown · Post by **oaktown** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:27 am

LOL thought this was a new map. why do people bump shit after a year??

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:27 am

Posted: Mar 15 2006 19:43

Miss that?