Crossword map [Done]

Jota · Post by **Jota** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:08 pm

After reading a couple of threads that mentioned maps that weren't strictly geographical, I came up with the idea for this one:

Each word is a country, and the intersections are the borders between them. There are eight color-coded continents. Tentatively, I'm assigning bonus armies as red: 3, purple: 4, blue: 2, orange: 3, cyan: 4, yellow: 3, silver: 6, green: 2. The XML I'm working on right now displays the army counts in the unchecked squares.

I tried to design the grid to make sure that most countries and continents had a reasonable number of borders, with some variety. What do people think?

kingwaffles · Post by **kingwaffles** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:38 pm

I think it's a really cool idea, I'm all for non conventional maps. I'm having a hard time figuring out the countries, maybe its just me but i think it would help to have each word be a slightly different shade to make them more obvious. I think it has great potential!

Pedronicus · Post by **Pedronicus** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:58 pm

Best idea I've seen so far.

You could spice things up by introducing the scrabble letters with the assigned numbers and we could insert letters as well (include loads of blanks) for an additional bonus of words created

Pedronicus · Post by **Pedronicus** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:00 pm

I also like the way you've incorporated the over lapping continents

Pedronicus · Post by **Pedronicus** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:01 pm

Lack Attack should give you a prize for the most original entry ever seen in this forum.

Originality needs to be rewarded Lack

Pedronicus · Post by **Pedronicus** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:03 pm

AND THIS IS THIS GUYS FIRST POST.

Jota · Post by **Jota** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:31 pm

kingwaffles wrote:I'm having a hard time figuring out the countries, maybe its just me but i think it would help to have each word be a slightly different shade to make them more obvious.

The countries are things like "9-Down" and "25-Across". 25-Across shares letters with 18-Down and 16-Down, so it borders on those two countries (and all three of them are part of the Orange continent). Since the borders are the squares that are part of both words, I think it would be difficult to shade two bordering countries differently without making it more confusing. But I might give it a shot if it seems it would be helpful.

I've put the large version up at http://grunk.org/risk/risk-xword2-large.gif and the XML at http://grunk.org/risk/xword.xml if anyone wants to play with them.

Also, thanks to both of you for the positive feedback!

lackattack · Post by **lackattack** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:41 pm

very cool, very original

kingwaffles · Post by **kingwaffles** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:16 pm

Okay, makes more sense now. Very cool idea, very original! Great job dude!

john123 · Post by **john123** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:35 am

yeah really like it, it looks suprisingly playable, those overlapping continents are a great idea

kingwaffles · Post by **kingwaffles** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:08 am

You know Pedro, you easily could have fit all that in one post...
But I do agree with you 100 percent, its great to have cool new ideas instead of just various parts of the globe. Maybe it's time I did some brainstorming myself for map ideas...

Mjolnirs · Post by **Mjolnirs** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 9:57 am

Interesting map Jota, so would you read it like:
11 across attacks 9 down?

Jota · Post by **Jota** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:10 am

Exactly like that, Mjolnirs.

supermarcol · Post by **supermarcol** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:32 pm

Are those skulls? cause if they are its so cool. And if they aren't, I need to go get myself checked.

kingwaffles · Post by **kingwaffles** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:35 pm

Wow, thats awesome, I didn't see that at all.....

Jota · Post by **Jota** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:07 pm

The skulls were actually accidental: I didn't even notice them myself until I started coloring in the continents.

When I add the sidebar about bonus armies to the graphic, should I also include a short note explaining the countries and borders?

thegrimsleeper · Post by **thegrimsleeper** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:20 pm

Yeah, if you don't the bug Report and Map Foundry forums will be inundated with "WTF posts"...

Great map btw. Where'd you get the idea?

Jota · Post by **Jota** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:29 pm

I'm not quite sure. I was thinking about how all the existing maps seemed fairly mundane, and I was wondering what kind of non-standard map I could design without a lot of drawing skill (and without pirating images)... and it just sort of came to me.

Speaking of which, what's the general opinion (or more importantly, lack's opinion) of using images that are available on the Internet, without any explicit "please do not steal our pictures" notice?

thegrimsleeper · Post by **thegrimsleeper** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:50 pm

It's fairly easy to get around that. just tweak the image in Photoshop or something. If you've altered the image, it's not their picture anymore, it's something fresh.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:04 pm

Quite a unique idea, I'd be willing to play a game or two on it, but there's just something I like about taking over "countries" and continents. But it's still an imaginative piece of work, and hopefully it will inspire others to look for more unique visions into the RISK world.

--Andy

Marvaddin · Post by **Marvaddin** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:15 am

It has certain lack of appeal to me... Conquering real countries and continents is better than conquer "25 across" (my opinion). Anyway, it can be playable, but its a bit confusing to know what is really a country. There are isolated squares with a different color... what this mean? What continent / country they belong? Its very strange parts of countries that shuffles with other countries. And where will you put the numbers? Are there 1 across and 1 down?

Im confused. I think its imaginative, but it will not have that much use... its very strange and unusual.

Jota · Post by **Jota** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:42 pm

Those squares are the borders between two words that are two different colors. Since each color represents a different continent, that effectively makes them the borders between continents.

For example, 10-Across is part of the Red continent, and it's five letters long. Its last letter is also the middle letter of 8-Down, part of the Purple continent. Because the two words cross, 10-Across and 8-Down border on each other. A player who controls the Red continent can make inroads into Purple by attacking 8-Down from 10-Across.

Just like in a crossword puzzle, 1-Across and 1-Down are two different words (and thus, two different countries). Since they cross each other (in the upper-left square of the grid), they also share a border.

lackattack · Post by **lackattack** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:26 am

This map is now live!

Marvaddin · Post by **Marvaddin** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:36 am

As I said, much more difficult to read than a normal map.

This will surely be the less used map of all Conquer Club :roll:

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:50 am

I think once maps start to become more unique and develop outside of standard geographic regions, it will hold it's own.

And plus, who likes to play that Brazil map?

(just kidding).

--Andy