Greater China [Quenched] (thanks Widowmakers)

newline · Post by **newline** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 10:46 pm

I'm a big LoZ Fan but i think your ganna had a hard time getting permission to put the red Link on the bottom of the Current map.

Koronna · Post by **Koronna** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:13 pm

i appreciate you putting the flag of the Republic of China (Taiwan) in this map. However, I find the government emblem not fitting at all for this map. Sure, the Communist Government has established their regime ovr China, but it was never elected by popular vote of the people, so it cannot truly represent China and Chinese people; all it symbolizes is a one party government. I suggest either taking out the emblem or putting the emblem of the Republic of China too, because you have included Taiwan in the Greater China map, and it is certainly not under communist rule, and it is only fair to the people of Taiwan tha their democratically elected government is represented in the right way too. "Greater China" is not the People's Republic of China, but a concept of the Zhong Guo, the Central Nation. The Republic of China is part of this notion, and should be rightfully represented too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Republic_of_China_National_Emblem.svg

Koronna · Post by **Koronna** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:30 pm

or another idea is, make Taiwan a special one territory bonus due to politcal reasons. Put the emblem beside it to symbolize another government

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:36 am

WidowMakers wrote:you drew link in your sig all by yourself? Well done!

no i didn't drew him, sorry for misunderstanding

i made it all myself (cut link out and putted wisse at it)

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:38 am

AndyDufresne wrote:Most people know my stance on map signatures, as I view a map as a piece of art. I like to see signatures which flow and are unobtrusive. Signatures that blend into the background, or that are transparent, are ones that I prefer.

But in the end, it is your signature, and you can do it the way you like. (Though I might make it a little smaller, so it doesn't look so odd compared to the style and theme of the map.)

--Andy

ok i see what i can do

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:40 am

Koronna wrote:i appreciate you putting the flag of the Republic of China (Taiwan) in this map. However, I find the government emblem not fitting at all for this map. Sure, the Communist Government has established their regime ovr China, but it was never elected by popular vote of the people, so it cannot truly represent China and Chinese people; all it symbolizes is a one party government. I suggest either taking out the emblem or putting the emblem of the Republic of China too, because you have included Taiwan in the Greater China map, and it is certainly not under communist rule, and it is only fair to the people of Taiwan tha their democratically elected government is represented in the right way too. "Greater China" is not the People's Republic of China, but a concept of the Zhong Guo, the Central Nation. The Republic of China is part of this notion, and should be rightfully represented too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Republic_of_China_National_Emblem.svg

sorry but i don't understand what you are saying
you are using to much difficult wich i never have learnd (sorry i am only a 16 years old boy that lives in the netherlands

)

Koronna · Post by **Koronna** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:58 am

Wisse wrote:
Koronna wrote:i appreciate you putting the flag of the Republic of China (Taiwan) in this map. However, I find the government emblem not fitting at all for this map. Sure, the Communist Government has established their regime ovr China, but it was never elected by popular vote of the people, so it cannot truly represent China and Chinese people; all it symbolizes is a one party government. I suggest either taking out the emblem or putting the emblem of the Republic of China too, because you have included Taiwan in the Greater China map, and it is certainly not under communist rule, and it is only fair to the people of Taiwan tha their democratically elected government is represented in the right way too. "Greater China" is not the People's Republic of China, but a concept of the Zhong Guo, the Central Nation. The Republic of China is part of this notion, and should be rightfully represented too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Republic_of_China_National_Emblem.svg

sorry but i don't understand what you are saying
you are using to much difficult wich i never have learnd (sorry i am only a 16 years old boy that lives in the netherlands )

Sorry I don't mean to be difficult or anything, in fact I'm a teenager too.

All I meant to suggest was to either add the Emblem of Taiwan, as I have linked below, or to have no emblems at all. Since both flags are on the map, it makes more sense to have both emblems on the map.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Republic_of_China_National_Emblem.svg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:National_Emblem_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China.png

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:00 pm

ah you meant those things ok
is the blue one with the sun from taiwan then?

Koronna · Post by **Koronna** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:36 pm

yep, aka Republic of China. thnx a lot for considering Taiwanese's side of view also

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 2:38 pm

update:

made the link sig a bit tinyier
put in a picture of the coat of arms from taiwan
moved the china coats of arms

i am working on the small map and done with the xml (changing names) i will post the xml when i am ready with the small map (those freaking army cricles again

)

also much people which coleman has did xml for has putted his sig in their maps, i am not gonna do that because:
1) he did only the cordinates
2) i did the other parts and all the editing of the cordinates
BUT
when my map is finishd i will put his name in the title of the thread as a thanks for cordinates

(its not that he was to lazy to do those things i did, i just didn't aks him for it)

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:03 pm

strange when i test my xml i get this:

Error: Country Xinjiang appears in continent Lanzhou but does not have its own country entry

(and that for every country)

my xml:
deleted the xml cause it spoiled the page

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:43 am

anyone knows this problem or do i have to pm lack (i pm lack today or tommorow) and will make the small map today or tomorow too

oaktown · Post by **oaktown** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:22 am

Wisse wrote:strange when i test my xml i get this:

Error: Country Xinjiang appears in continent Lanzhou but does not have its own

hey Wisse. I believe that the "country" tag has been changed to "territory" so right now it is true that you don't actually have any countries. Do a quick find & replace "country" to "territory" and run the check again.

oaktown · Post by **oaktown** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:23 am

It would be less confusing if the XML checker had also been updated to say that Xianjiang does not have its own TERRITORY entry.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:47 am

oaktown wrote:
oaktown wrote:
Wisse wrote:strange when i test my xml i get this:

Error: Country Xinjiang appears in continent Lanzhou but does not have its own country entry

hey Wisse. I believe that the "country" tag wqas changed to "territory" in one of the XML updates, so right now it is true that you don't actually have any countries. Do a quick find & replace "country" to "territory" and run the check again.

It would be less confusing if the XML checker had also been updated to say that Xianjiang does not have its own TERRITORY entry.

thnx a lot

will fix that and make the tiny map tommorow to get quench time

jako · Post by **jako** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 11:46 am

u should update ur sig wisse

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:14 pm

jako wrote:u should update ur sig wisse

with the next update i will

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:35 pm

xml is fixed (and uploaded link on the fist post) and also a thing i didn't saw in the xml (i changed the arrow from nei mongol to gansu in the opposit direction and forgot to change that in the xml)

got no errors when testing only 3 warnings (... borders ... but not virsa versa (sp) )

oaktown · Post by **oaktown** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:59 pm

Wisse wrote:got no errors when testing only 3 warnings (... borders ... but not virsa versa (sp) )

Nice. Looking good Wisse. Thumbs up from me for the army centering and the sig - if your sig had to fit the look of the map we'd have to make new sigs for every map we do.

I've been staring at the graphics looking for errors, and the only thing I can see is that the coastlines looks a bit smudged where the river meets the sea in Hebei and Shandong provinces. If it doesn't look wrong to you then don't give it a second thought. The mountains look funny to me, but I guess other people like them so I'll shut up. :-$

In reading back through the past few weeks of posts, it looks as if the Kashmir territory may be a source of confusion. In the legend it is called "C. Kashmir," in the XML it is called "Chinese Kashmir," and on the map it has no label at all. Have I got that right?

jako · Post by **jako** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:05 pm

oaktown wrote: In reading back through the past few weeks of posts, it looks as if the Kashmir territory may be a source of confusion. In the legend it is called "C. Kashmir," in the XML it is called "Chinese Kashmir," and on the map it has no label at all. Have I got that right?

i forgot about this too, i saw it last week but forgot to post about. i looked over the map, but i cant find C. kashmir. so that bombard idea is either scrapped and he didnt change the text in legend, or he forgot to change a terr to C. kashmir.

oaktown · Post by **oaktown** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:11 pm

jako wrote:i forgot about this too, i saw it last week but forgot to post about. i looked over the map, but i cant find C. kashmir. so that bombard idea is either scrapped and he didnt change the text in legend, or he forgot to change a terr to C. kashmir.

No, it's still there, it just has no territory title. I think this demonstrates that there is still confusion around this territory.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:00 pm

oaktown wrote:
Wisse wrote:got no errors when testing only 3 warnings (... borders ... but not virsa versa (sp) )

Nice. Looking good Wisse. Thumbs up from me for the army centering and the sig - if your sig had to fit the look of the map we'd have to make new sigs for every map we do.

thnx

I've been staring at the graphics looking for errors, and the only thing I can see is that the coastlines looks a bit smudged where the river meets the sea in Hebei and Shandong provinces. If it doesn't look wrong to you then don't give it a second thought. The mountains look funny to me, but I guess other people like them so I'll shut up.

yeah i will fix those river-sea connections
i made the mountains as they where really then made them in the style of the map

In reading back through the past few weeks of posts, it looks as if the Kashmir territory may be a source of confusion. In the legend it is called "C. Kashmir," in the XML it is called "Chinese Kashmir," and on the map it has no label at all. Have I got that right?

will change C. Kashmir in the legend so there is no confusing
also in the xml thats with everything (e. = eastern etc.)

oaktown · Post by **oaktown** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:20 pm

Wisse wrote:will change C. Kashmir in the legend so there is no confusing
also in the xml thats with everything (e. = eastern etc.)

cool... but jako couldn't find the territory on the map... putting the name of the territory on the map will remove any confusion. I see that one can figure out which territory it is from the image in the legend, so if you're strongly opposed to putting the title there then so be it.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:23 am

oaktown wrote:
Wisse wrote:will change C. Kashmir in the legend so there is no confusing
also in the xml thats with everything (e. = eastern etc.)

cool... but jako couldn't find the territory on the map... putting the name of the territory on the map will remove any confusion. I see that one can figure out which territory it is from the image in the legend, so if you're strongly opposed to putting the title there then so be it.

hmm i will see what i can do

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:50 am

Wisse....how long to you intend running this poll? i notice it is left blank?
Would it be possible to have a finish date please.

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