Logic dictates that there is a God!

jay_a2j · Post by **jay_a2j** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:31 am

luns101 wrote:
daddy1gringo wrote:
luns101 wrote:Jay, maybe I should bring my "Logic dictates there is no lackattack" thread over here...

Please do; I'm surprised you haven't yet. I was going to ask you if I could.

I thought about it, but it might come off as a little rude with the mockery.

Iliad · Post by **Iliad** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:10 pm

This thread is funny. jay you know your point is completely flawed?

jay_a2j · Post by **jay_a2j** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:21 pm

Iliad wrote:This thread is funny. jay you know your point is completely flawed?

No, you don't say? Take a number and wait in line please. The "I can prove God doesn't exist" line is quite lengthy.

luns101 · Post by **luns101** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:36 pm

Iliad wrote:This thread is funny.

It certainly is. I've never seen people spend so much time and argue so vehemently against something they don't believe exists. :lol:

Iliad · Post by **Iliad** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:37 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
Iliad wrote:This thread is funny. jay you know your point is completely flawed?

No, you don't say? Take a number and wait in line please. The "I can prove God doesn't exist" line is quite lengthy.

and I have a suspicion that it has been explained to you a hundred times and a hundred more times will not sway you.

3seven1 · Post by **3seven1** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:29 pm

I'm on page 10 and it's pretty good so far. It's going to take me forever to catch up to page 174. I'm sure it'll be over 250 by the time I get to 174.

Syzygy · Post by **Syzygy** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:46 pm

3seven1 wrote:I'm on page 10 and it's pretty good so far. It's going to take me forever to catch up to page 174. I'm sure it'll be over 250 by the time I get to 174.

Are you seriously going to read through all that?

MeDeFe · Post by **MeDeFe** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:58 pm

I think I did that, too, but there were only 60 pages then.

luns101 · Post by **luns101** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:20 pm

MeDeFe wrote:I think I did that, too, but there were only 60 pages then.

Even then, a bottle of aspirin might be necessary. :shock:

MR. Nate · Post by **MR. Nate** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:39 pm

I only read the intelligent posts . . . took me about an hour.

daddy1gringo · Post by **daddy1gringo** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:12 pm

luns101 wrote:
daddy1gringo wrote:
luns101 wrote:Jay, maybe I should bring my "Logic dictates there is no lackattack" thread over here...

Please do; I'm surprised you haven't yet. I was going to ask you if I could.

I thought about it, but it might come off as a little rude with the mockery.

did that ever stop you before?

daddy1gringo · Post by **daddy1gringo** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:14 pm

Iliad wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
Iliad wrote:This thread is funny. jay you know your point is completely flawed?

No, you don't say? Take a number and wait in line please. The "I can prove God doesn't exist" line is quite lengthy.

and I have a suspicion that it has been explained to you a hundred times and a hundred more times will not sway you.

You speak as if it's a given that that means he isn't listening to reason. An equally logical conclusion is that the arguments aren't convincing.

luns101 · Post by **luns101** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:07 pm

daddy1gringo wrote:
luns101 wrote:
daddy1gringo wrote:
luns101 wrote:Jay, maybe I should bring my "Logic dictates there is no lackattack" thread over here...

Please do; I'm surprised you haven't yet. I was going to ask you if I could.

I thought about it, but it might come off as a little rude with the mockery.

did that ever stop you before?

See my question in the JF forum on this subject!

Despite my sarcasm, I really do care about the souls of our skeptical friends here.

vtmarik · Post by **vtmarik** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:09 pm

luns101 wrote:See my question in the JF forum on this subject!

Despite my sarcasm, I really do care about the souls of our skeptical friends here.

I'm wondering, am I on that list? Because I'm pretty sure my soul's set for whatever eternity it may end up in.

luns101 · Post by **luns101** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:22 pm

vtmarik wrote:
luns101 wrote:See my question in the JF forum on this subject!

Despite my sarcasm, I really do care about the souls of our skeptical friends here.

I'm wondering, am I on that list? Because I'm pretty sure my soul's set for whatever eternity it may end up in.

You mean a list of people I care about? Of course. You've always been pretty straightforward in your approach to the discussions. I think I have a tendency to go off on people a little bit too much, but it's all because from my perspective I feel like "hey, if I can see it...why can't they"?

As a former skeptic myself I just wish people could experience the joy that comes from having peace with God through Christ. I wonder how many people don't take that "leap of faith" though due to some terrible thing that happened in their life. I heard that Ted Turner (founder of CNN) could never believe in Christ because his sister died of Lupas. I'll bet many people just can't accept the Christian God because they can't reconcile pain & suffering with the concept of a compassionate God.

vtmarik · Post by **vtmarik** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:53 pm

I have peace in God through God. I appreciate Jesus' sacrifice (though probably for a different reason than you do) but I still don't believe in the concept of sin because sin implies an imperfect God which is impossible.

OnlyAmbrose · Post by **OnlyAmbrose** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 8:55 pm

Omagawsh this thread is back from the dead! Sure brings back memories like... 80 pages back now I guess.

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1562&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=1442

*sniff* My CC forum debut :,)

And vt, you're probably the most pleasant skeptic to chat with on the topic, because I've yet to see you sink to the point of mudslinging or trolling.

vtmarik · Post by **vtmarik** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 9:07 pm

OnlyAmbrose wrote:Omagawsh this thread is back from the dead! Sure brings back memories like... 80 pages back now I guess.

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1562&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=1442

*sniff* My CC forum debut :,)

And vt, you're probably the most pleasant skeptic to chat with on the topic, because I've yet to see you sink to the point of mudslinging or trolling.

Thank you. It's good to be welcome.

luns101 · Post by **luns101** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:14 am

vtmarik wrote:I have peace in God through God. I appreciate Jesus' sacrifice (though probably for a different reason than you do) but I still don't believe in the concept of sin because sin implies an imperfect God which is impossible.

That's an interesting take on the whole sin issue. I guess the next question would be how do you reconcile the fact that people do terrible things. Would you agree that we are all screw-ups in one sense or another?

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:49 am

Iliad wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
Iliad wrote:This thread is funny. jay you know your point is completely flawed?

No, you don't say? Take a number and wait in line please. The "I can prove God doesn't exist" line is quite lengthy.

and I have a suspicion that it has been explained to you a hundred times and a hundred more times will not sway you.

Why are you so set on changing someone's beliefs? Let them believe what they want to, why should it bother you? If they find peace in the belief of Jesus Christ, then let them. The same goes to you; If you find peace in something different from others, then believe that.

I have a lot of respect for many religious people just because they can counter-argue and still hold truth to their belief, whilst not shoving it down someone's throat.

OnlyAmbrose · Post by **OnlyAmbrose** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:33 am

Skittles! wrote:
Iliad wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
Iliad wrote:This thread is funny. jay you know your point is completely flawed?

No, you don't say? Take a number and wait in line please. The "I can prove God doesn't exist" line is quite lengthy.

and I have a suspicion that it has been explained to you a hundred times and a hundred more times will not sway you.

Why are you so set on changing someone's beliefs? Let them believe what they want to, why should it bother you? If they find peace in the belief of Jesus Christ, then let them. The same goes to you; If you find peace in something different from others, then believe that.

I have a lot of respect for many religious people just because they can counter-argue and still hold truth to their belief, whilst not shoving it down someone's throat.

You make it sound like it's only religious people who shove beliefs down other people's throats - I've met several atheists who are so convinced of the danger religion poses to humanity that it's their personal crusade to dissuade believers from their faith.

It's a universal thing. Personally, if I thought that shoving beliefs down your throat would make you closer to Christ, I'd do it without hesitation. However, that never works, and is probably less likely to work simply because it's done over the internet. I think it's up to the Christians you know and see in real life to live such that you may see Jesus. There's a nice refrain to a hymn which I'm quite fond of: "And they'll know we are Christians by our love." Not only that, but in the words of St. Francis of Assisi: "Preach the Gospel everywhere you go... but only use words when necessary."

Idea being, in living the faith you send a far more powerful message than if you're walking around naked waving a "THE END IS NEAR- REPENT! REPENT!" sign.

Sorry, that was quite a tangent.

jay_a2j · Post by **jay_a2j** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:26 am

Iliad wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
Iliad wrote:This thread is funny. jay you know your point is completely flawed?

No, you don't say? Take a number and wait in line please. The "I can prove God doesn't exist" line is quite lengthy.

and I have a suspicion that it has been explained to you a hundred times and a hundred more times will not sway you.

Pretty much. It's nice to know that there is a God instead of "just believing" without ever truly knowing.

2dimes · Post by **2dimes** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:36 am

Ah, the origional resurected so to speak. Pun intended.

Nice work Jay. I just wandered to the third page in this forum to enjoy the titles of many homage threads.

jay_a2j · Post by **jay_a2j** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:41 pm

2dimes wrote:Ah, the origional resurected so to speak. Pun intended.

Nice work Jay. I just wandered to the third page in this forum to enjoy the titles of many homage threads.

Yeah, but I didn't resurrect this thread...

But as long as there are those who post "there is no God", I will keep posting. (so we can see who goes insane first, me or them) :wink:

luns101 · Post by **luns101** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:45 pm

Skittles! wrote:I have a lot of respect for many religious people just because they can counter-argue and still hold truth to their belief, whilst not shoving it down someone's throat.

Thanks Skittles. It's nice to know that despite my bad play as a teammate you still respect me! :oops:

Logic dictates that there is a God!

Does God exist?