D4of The Reid technique Mafia Game

[Ragian]

@ Devon
If you are saying that Loose Canon is Mafia then you are 3P.
As I said before, this is my second Mafia game I'm now playing and I haven't yet developed a strategy how to play Mafia games. If you say I play it different then I do. I'm trying to learn how to play. You on the other hand is an experienced player and know that the argument regarding me playing difflerent doesn't say much.
I think you're trying to push away suspicions against you and the one to blame are me and Loose Canon. At least I have yours and Loose Canon's words in print that I can use as facts.
And if you

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3) I urged caution D3 when (almost) everyone else steamed in to vote for Devante and Loose, leaving town in the dark about the coming days.
This should strongly insinuate that I'm not 3rd party poisoner. A 3rd party wants town to know as little as possible. ...

then you fit as 3P since you haven't been very helpful to let Town to know, rather Town to knows as little as possible. You have kept Town in the dark and refused to reveal you role. Moreover, you contradicted yourself and I don't think you're a moron so I think you'r trying to talk you out of your corner.

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I don't know if this was directed at me and/or just spite given that my phone edited your name, or if you're just trying weirdly to underline that you have no mafia playing strategy and no grips of who's who I'll reply anyway.

If your point is that caution D3 keeps town in the dark, then you're just flat out wrong. Eager beavers want to lynch as soon as they see something that doesn't fit, but they often forget to analyse possible outcomes and interpret people's reaction to their eagerness. That's why we didn't just lynch Loose or Devante D3 within the first ten posts. We needed to figure out what was going on. That is clearly in the uninformed majority's interest (i.e. town).

Regarding role claim, I have to underline the importance of NOT claiming ones role UNLESS it leads to lynching scum (or indirectly lynching scum) or if brought to L-2. If it doesn't, you sit on your role and keep scum in the dark. Being 1 shot bulletproof is a good thing to keep away from scum because they might waste a kill on you. If I had claimed D3 in order to satisfy the misunderstood needs of the uninformed majority, the only thing we would've achieved would be that scum would know to steer clear of me regarding night actions. We would know nothing else. (Even if I had understood my role, I wouldn't have claimed that I was immune to investigations because obviously that would be considered scummy.) Why did you claim when you did?

So yeah, I think you're wrong. Or at least that you haven't done your counterfactual history correctly.

However, hjelp, if you agree with me that Loose is mafia, I see no reason for you not to help lynch him. Even if you wrongly think that I'm third party.

[Ragian]

@Loose, LOL...that expression sounds like something you'd use if you accidentally knocked up your mate's girl. And I've only made my mate's entry music...and yes, he's a heel...or baddie...but everyone uses metal or rock. That particular song is not very black metal, however. It's more cliché hard rock with dumb lyrics.

You can judge for yourself if you find Smaurs with Bayview Brawler on your streaming services

[hjelp]

My last post was meant to Ragian , sorry

[Ragian]

@Hjelp, I overlooked your last part. I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I never googled the name of my role. However, I can't sway you on that during the game. I'll prove it post-game, however. But if you don't think I'm a moron (thanks <3), why do you think I've contradicted myself? That sounds quite moronic.

FP'ed by Hjelp

[hjelp]

@
Ragian, I'm not sure of what you mean.

... Hjelp is indeed correct in saying that I've contradicted myself because I just googled ascetic townie ...

[halrob64]

Ragian,
Throughout the game you have cautioned against lynching quickly, in fact you have been very vocal about it, why such a quick lynch on Loose?

[hjelp]

I think this one can help us telling the Mafia

IN-GAME CLUES UNLOCKED WHEN SOLVED
1 — CHARGE → Alignment Clue

Correct answer gives:

One of your suspects has been formally “charged.”
The player who received the most votes yesterday is NOT Mafia.
(Scum wouldn’t risk being top wagon.)

I wrote this

@ Loose Canon

Please Continue elaborate the "union" EW, Charle, halrob64 since that is the flaw regarding my Assumptions made. You are now accused of being Mafia.
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Accused is like being charged in court.

It points to that Ragian is Mafia.
- Ragian flips Mafia then Town win.
- Ragian flips 3P then Town has 3vs 1

It's hard to get rid off Mafia Doc Ascetic Bulletproof unless a lynch.
Vote Ragian

[hjelp]

I think this one can help us telling the Mafia

IN-GAME CLUES UNLOCKED WHEN SOLVED
1 — CHARGE → Alignment Clue

Correct answer gives:

One of your suspects has been formally “charged.”
The player who received the most votes yesterday is NOT Mafia.
(Scum wouldn’t risk being top wagon.)

I wrote this

@ Loose Canon

Please Continue elaborate the "union" EW, Charle, halrob64 since that is the flaw regarding my Assumptions made. You are now accused of being Mafia.
...

Accused is like being charged in court.

It points to that Ragian is Mafia.
- Ragian flips Mafia then Town win.
- Ragian flips 3P then Town has 3vs 1

It's hard to get rid off Mafia Doc Ascetic Bulletproof unless a lynch.
Vote Ragian

[hjelp]

sorry about the colour so I fixed it

[Ragian]

@
Ragian, I'm not sure of what you mean.

... Hjelp is indeed correct in saying that I've contradicted myself because I just googled ascetic townie ...

Just trying to prove to you that I am indeed a moron.

[halrob64]

I don't know why you'd think 1 shot bulletproof would usually be for serial killers. That ability is not alignment indicative.
Where did you come up with that, if you didn't google the role?

Loose, why did you not reveal that till after I revealed my role? Were you looking to see who was the better candidate for your boat ride? Why did you choose to investigate Devante over the Scandinavians?

Also, notice how Loose is doing two things (kind of like hjelp): he's saying that Devante is not scum, but he leaves a tiny bit of wiggle room for himself by saying that he can't be sure.

[Ragian]

Ragian,
Throughout the game you have cautioned against lynching quickly, in fact you have been very vocal about it, why such a quick lynch on Loose?

I'm not in a rush, but I've gotten my vote in early because:
1) Deadline is already looming. Sunday.
2) I can't see what more we can learn from today. I'd love it if we could unequivocally pinpoint the poisoner, too, though.
3) I'm travelling and don't want my vote to go to waste by not making it in time.

[Ragian]

I'm not sure what to do with you quoting me without comment, Hal...

[Ragian]

Oh wait, is your question embedded in the quote?

[hjelp]

@
Ragian, I'm not sure of what you mean.

... Hjelp is indeed correct in saying that I've contradicted myself because I just googled ascetic townie ...

Just trying to prove to you that I am indeed a moron.

Is that also a role in Mafia games ???

[Ragian]

In that case, being bulletproof (one shot or other) is not necessarily a role, but an ability. I'm very familiar with that. Also, the nature of being bulletproof was explained in my role pm. Ascetic town wasn't.

[Devante]

Hold off voting further please, still trying to look over a few things in posts and clues given

[Ragian]

Your vote is based on me being dumb, not on gameplay. Hjelp, I urge you to think it through by looking at my merits this game. If you're scum, however, ignore this plead.

I'm back late tonight.

[SoN!c]

Official vote count:


Loose Canon: (1) Ragian
Ragian: (1) Hjelp


With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch!


D4 of the REID ENDS this Saturday december 6th! (00.00 AM Sunday december 7th Guatamala time : Quema del Diablo!!)

[Devante]

trying to find post on Loose, wha tdid he claim for last night from last night?

FP

[hjelp]

@ Ragian

I have argued why I cast my vote on you.

[hjelp]

@ Ragian

and just because I argued and voted on you, it doesn't mean I'm scum.

[halrob64]

Loose investigated Devante

[halrob64]

Sorry claimed he investigated Devante

[Devante]

ok found it and then hjelp claimed no result.

Loose canon, if you were still alive tonight who are you targeting to investigate?