D3 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

[Ragian]

Yikes. You should probably read rule 3 (or is it 4?), prohibiting you from quoting mod PMs

[Ragian]

Also unvote

When is the deadline? Today?

[hjelp]

...
If what I'm asking isn't clear to you for whatever reason, just ask. I still think you haven't answered my question in a satisfactory manner. Let's say we lynch Devon (I know you want to lynch me out of - I presume - butthurt, but perhaps clarifying the question will get us somewhere):
- If Devon when lynched turns out to be town (flips town), whom would you then suggest is scum?
- If Devon when lynched turns out to he scum (flips scum), whom would you then suggest is his scum buddies?

For instance, if we were to lynch you:
- If you flip town, I'd be looking at EW and Devon for starters. I'd be looking at who steered the lynch away from Devon. (I know I'm doing that myself, so I wouldn't blame anyone going for me - especially scum should be pushing for my lynch D3 if you were to flip town. Luckily, I know I'm town.)
- If you flip scum, I'd be looking at Loose, Devante, and halrob (if he wasn't cleared by Charle) because they've all seen my vote and stayed clear of it.

If Devon flips town then I think Devante and now Ragian since steared away suspicions regarding Devante.
If Devon flips scum then I think Devante and and now Ragian since steared away suspicions regarding Devante.
I think Devon is the Assassin (Mafia aligned) and I think there are two mafias left.

...
“Good morning, Doc, my dear,”
Said Dino smooth, with charm sincere.
“We come in peace — let’s make that clear,
Just here to chat, just bend your ear.”

The Doctor smiled, unsure, polite,
“These appointments weren’t on my site.”
Luigi laughed, his grin too wide,
“Consultancy, Doc — ’cause we’re on your side.”

“Step one,” said Luigi, “accuse with flair!
Step two, deny they’ve got a prayer.
Step three, minimize — make them feel small.
Step four, suggest you know it all.”

Nine little steps to twist a tale,
Till truth and fiction share one jail.

The Doctor’s pen began to shake.
“I’m not the one who makes them break!”
“Oh sure,” said Dino, “we get it, Doc —
Just stress, and the time on the clock.”

Luigi grinned wide, “We’re here to help.
Keep things calm, avoid a yelp.
“We mean no harm — it’s all technique.
A little pressure, soft, oblique.”

Luigi leaned close, his voice a hum,
“Remember, Doc — results must come.”
He opened his suitcase, flicked a switch — the lights went red.

The Doctor froze — then saw the sign:
His own creation, by design.
The Reid Machine, cold, gleamed divine —
The Doctor’s guilt… his Frankenstein.

And as it hummed, he heard them say,
“— it’s just our way.”

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I think they were two Mafias from the start and the third was turned to Mafia. So there is one Mafia Doc.
Ragian, you haven't convinced me that you are town.

[hjelp]

Unvote Ragian
Vote Devon

[Ragian]

I want to wait and see if Son!c rolls out a massive punishment, but I reckon we should get a lynch in.

As promised vote Devon

Darin's vote could also persuade me to vote him.

Argh, this has me stumped. Is it EW?

Fastposted by hjelp

@why do you think that there's a mafia doc? Based on poetry analysis or hard evidence? Also, does your no report indicate that no cop or tracker hit scum?

Fastposted again

f*ck sake, hjelp, I'm on my phone here

[Charle]

Ok Halrob.

Devante can you answer these questions yes or no - unless you want to elaborate;

1. Are there any Sonic placed restrictions on who you can vote for?
2. Are there any Sonic placed restrictions on who you can say you suspect?

I'm wondering if Devante is a town player (interrogee) who town just has to ask the right questions of.(game theme name is about interrogation technique)

And I'll point out that Extreme started asking questions but then stopped and somehow became "kinda thinking" Devante to be town and said he had no idea what Devante's role as town might be.
Warden (Extreme would be wrong side of interrogee)

I'm extremely flipfloppy mostly due to the mod info on it. I'm also not an oracle and do not know every answer nor the setup, see also why I can't explain why Charle played D1 the way he did when he's cop.

I wanted to lay low D1, so that I can get a result without the doc having to protect me. I had my suspicion on King when he also partly claimed cop, but I could not reveal it at that time, or give any reason for anybody to to suspect that I am cop. If i survive tonight, it might give us some result, whether doc save me, or not, unless scum block me, but that will also tell us whether scum has a blocker or not. D2 was a mistake to reveal it too quick, but i honestly did not see your unvote on me, i really thought i was on L-2, and had to give the message out asap before I am lynched as I was extremely busy at work at the time.

FP by Ragian

[hjelp]

Yikes. You should probably read rule 3 (or is it 4?), prohibiting you from quoting mod PMs

I asked from the start, and the choice to qoute or rewrite is my own choice, and I understood that as ok if I did.

[Charle]

I want to wait and see if Son!c rolls out a massive punishment, but I reckon we should get a lynch in.

As promised vote Devon

Darin's vote could also persuade me to vote him.

Argh, this has me stumped. Is it EW?

Fastposted by hjelp

@why do you think that there's a mafia doc? Based on poetry analysis or hard evidence? Also, does your no report indicate that no cop or tracker hit scum?

Fastposted again

f*ck sake, hjelp, I'm on my phone here

Ragian, we know there is a doc, as my result will be opposite if the doc saves me.

FP by hjelp this time

[hjelp]

@why do you think that there's a mafia doc? Based on poetry analysis or hard evidence? Also, does your no report indicate that no cop or tracker hit scum?

Fastposted again

f*ck sake, hjelp, I'm on my phone here

Poetry analysis, It's either a Mafia Doc or a Mafia Bomber but since there was no explosion N1 => Mafia Doc

[hjelp]

I want to wait and see if Son!c rolls out a massive punishment, but I reckon we should get a lynch in.

As promised vote Devon

Darin's vote could also persuade me to vote him.

Argh, this has me stumped. Is it EW?

Fastposted by hjelp

@why do you think that there's a mafia doc? Based on poetry analysis or hard evidence? Also, does your no report indicate that no cop or tracker hit scum?

Fastposted again

f*ck sake, hjelp, I'm on my phone here

kongming3 tracker was shot N1, i.e. killed. So no report N1.

First night scene (another one coming up after this)...


"The morgue smells of ink and rain.
One bullet. One body.
The Tracker’s eyes still stare like open case notes,
asking questions no one wants to answer..

His last transmission said:
“Target acquired — movement detected...”
Then static. Then silence.

They say the Tracker never saw it coming.
They’re wrong.
He saw everything.
He just didn’t realize the frame he walked into
was his own outline.

KongMing, 3 shot Town Tracker, is killed!

So, besides a 3P poisoner I also think we have Mafia Ambusher since

Who Killed Kongming?

The lanterns flickered, minds grew cold,
Kongming’s secrets left untold.
A schemer’s wit, a master’s role—
But tell me, was a grassy knoll involved?

The players whisper, eyes that dart,
Each with guilt stitched through their heart.
Deception weaves, alliances dissolve—
And still we ask: was a grassy knoll involved?

The night was long, the candles low,
A shadow moved — a fatal blow.
Now silence reigns where plans evolved…
Who killed Kongming? Was a grassy knoll involved?

[hjelp]

Why do I think Devon is the Assassin?

Kingm claimed 50% Cop. Day even or odd investigate.
There is an Assassin Poetry given.
Nothing D1 - odd
Nothing D2 - even
D3? - odd
An Assassin isn't allowed to kill D1, and D2 still nothing happens. So not even.
Odd then and D3 the assassinate can begin.

But it also can be one player waiting to find the right target and "pull the trigger" D2.

[Ragian]

Yikes. You should probably read rule 3 (or is it 4?), prohibiting you from quoting mod PMs

I asked from the start, and the choice to qoute or rewrite is my own choice, and I understood that as ok if I did.

Alright. Odd for Son!c to include the rule, then, but maybe he just copy-pasted from former games

Ragian, we know there is a doc, as my result will be opposite if the doc saves me.

FP by hjelp this time

I wrote mafia doc.

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To be honest, hjelp, I haven't even read the poems because although I like flavour, I'm not really into that whole guessing hints kind of game. I like mafia where we look at people's actions and reactions

FP'ed by hjelp.

Humm...didn't Devon change the claim? Didn't he state that he was a backup something?

[Loose Canon]

Since I'm L-2,
I'm town and my role is Sleepwalker. Added to that is

"Town Surveillance Analyst"

At the end of the night when all other night actions are in You receive anonymous (but 100% accurate) reports when a town investigator has hit scum, even when the investigation returned a false result due to Godfather immunity or framing to the investigator or other conditions that tampered with the the investigator's result (i.e., the investigator himself did not actually detect scum) BUT only if the investigator survives the night. The investigator needs to be alive to file the report.

Once per game you can audit a killed investigators action to see what the result of the investigator was (works only on tracker and cop roles)..

Important:

The report is anonymous: it will not say which investigator performed the action that triggered the report.
The report does not reveal the identity of the scum-targeted player — only that a scum was succesfully targeted by investigator action(s) that night.
The Analyst's check uses true alignment, not investigation output. In other words, the Analyst triggers only when an investigator actually visited a Mafia member, regardless of what the investigator’s read looked like.
If an investigator was roleblocked before acting, or their visit was redirected so they did not actually target a scum, that does not count (no report).

I didn't get any report N1.[/quote]

Hjelp if you didn't get any report does that indicate a mafia roleblocker?
I mean I think it does...

You then go on to say your read from flavour and Kong's death there is a mafia ambusher.
That's a decent read from flavour to me too.

You have also pivoted some pressure from you back to Devon, and were previously pressing me to vote,/lynch Devon.

I don't feel enough clarity to vote you, but do FOS you.

[halrob64]

Early this morning a large titanium cage was seen being installed in the secure wing of the Nutsville State Hospital.
Pauli "Walnuts" Devante is currently being held in the hospital after suffering what appears to be a bout of memory loss. On being questioned on his roll in the recent night kill and possible poising of the infamous Strikewolf, Walnuts was only able to say "I cant remember, but it wasn't me I wasn't there!"
I was able to speak briefly to the town doctors assistant Ms A. Syd Byrne and ask her if the cage was for the protection of Walnuts Devante or to protect the towns folk of possible night action. Ms Byrne, known to her colleagues as "Acid" Byrne replied how the hell do I know, Mr Devante has not been coherent since he came into the game.
But if it was down to me I would bring back hanging. Oh my god don't quote me on that!

Thungwell Dipstead medical crime reporter for the Loose Straights Times

[hjelp]

@ Ragian

I'am conserned about your behaviour, "forcing" all to claim their roles and you only say I'm town in posts, more often than not.
So, this makes you a high risk possible Mafia.
Regarding Loose, really focused on finding 3P and I have no idea of why.

So,
I now guess that Mafia will kill me N2.

[hjelp]

I will now read Son!ic's news-flashs

[Ragian]

You should vote me if you think I'm mafia. Or revote me, I guess.

@halrob, what are you doing?

[Ragian]

Or at least you shouldn't vote alongside someone you think is scum.

[halrob64]

Most likely Loose is the Maniac killer and only bangs on about 3P all the time to divert attention.
Ragian,
I am staying with Devon at the moment

[Ragian]

Cheers.

[Ragian]

So...we have a cop, a warden, who enables the cop somehow, an analyst, who gets a report if the cop - enabled by the warden - hits scum. I hope I've misunderstood that because that's way too many variables for town to get any solid information

[halrob64]

It is too variable I totally agree

[halrob64]

Does that include the I can't reveal what I do but I am town because I say I am but I can't really tell you on pain of death person as well?

[hjelp]

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Hjelp if you didn't get any report does that indicate a mafia roleblocker?
I mean I think it does...

... BUT only if the investigator survives the night. The investigator needs to be alive to file the report. ...

You then go on to say your read from flavour and Kong's death there is a mafia ambusher.
That's a decent read from flavour to me too.

You have also pivoted some pressure from you back to Devon, and were previously pressing me to vote,/lynch Devon.

yes, as I think Devon Assassin is second faction or Mafia-aligned, and you earlier suspected a second faction.
and if you are Town it would make sense for you to vote on Devon.
But I might be wrong about Devon.
I think Assassin and Lecter is a second faction since

CHAOS AGENT:

You’re not with the police. You’re not with the mob.
You’re here to watch the world crack — to push people’s buttons, spread suspicion, and make even the innocent question their own memories.

In noir terms:

A professional interrogator turned rogue.
Maybe ex-FBI, maybe freelance “consultant.”
Maybe a brilliant, manipulative profiler with his own twisted code of ethics
Your methods were too extreme, so they cut you loose… now you play both sides.

“I don’t lie, Detective. I just let you hear the truth you fear most.”

Role Overview

Alignment :Neutral (Independent)
Codename: "Lecter" — A former FBI behavioral analyst turned rogue consultant.
Goal: Survive until the end while ensuring at least one faction loses unfairly (trust collapse, wrongful conviction, or false confession).
Specialty: Psychological manipulation, interrogation mastery, and manufactured evidence.

“Empathy is a scalpel. Use it gently, and the truth bleeds out.”

Strategy

Early Game: Subtly steer interrogations; ask questions that make emotional guilt stand out.

Mid Game: Use Distortion to make an innocent appear deceptive, or swap guilt cards to cloud the Cop’s reads.

Late Game: Drop your Fabricate Evidence bomb right when trust wavers.

Endgame: You win if doubt, not proof, defines the outcome.

Example Role-Play Lines

“Tell me, Officer — do you enjoy confession, or merely the illusion of control it gives you?”

“Guilt is not the same as responsibility. Some of us wear it as fashion.”

“Ah, but if the truth destroys trust, was it ever worth finding?”

It says "Codename: "Lecter" — A former FBI behavioral analyst turned rogue consultant." and "Neutral (Independent)"
Independet Consultant to whom ?

[hjelp]

@ Loose Canon
the qoute got strange regarding Mafia roleblocker

... BUT only if the investigator survives the night. The investigator needs to be alive to file the report. ...
so no report N1.