D3 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

[Extreme Ways]

I thank I'm going to have to reread everything more confused than I was before.

Ok theres only conspiracy at the moment, no crime scene to investigate, no evidence to evaluate, no murder committed - that will change D2 and so will thoughts.

IF YOU ARE TOWN
Maybe go through each of the players and give your current assessments, and in particular anything that you think or have thought was suspicious.
Your critical thinking is as valid as anyones and you may have noticed something we haven't, maybe even in your subconcious.
Posting what YOU think will help you to tackle confusion.

IF YOU ARE MAFIA
Best say nothing

fpd by hjelp

As an good example you said nothing

I think many of the players have written "in particular anything that you think or have thought was suspicious." (except for the standard opening in the game = throw out a vote and that's all).
Mafias will also do this since if "saying nothing" then implies mafias. In the end after this assignement we will all end up as Town.
Did I get it?

It can be hard for people to say a bunch of nothing and be genuine about it. Or whether you push your vote or vote your push in a genuine manner, instead of performatively doing so.

[Extreme Ways]

Example: Loose helltunneling me in the previous game. Loose was town and was genuine about it. I think scum Loose, knowing exactly what happened overnight, would not hammer it down that hard.

Conversely, Sonic in that game knowing exactly what happened started by appeasing me and appealing to me, defending me to others. Only when it was clear that town really wanted me gone, did he change his tone and started to push me too. This change in opinion of my slot was not natural at all, as nothing new had come to light that would make Sonic change his opinion.

[Loose Canon]

Hjelp it was response to darins confused post - suggesting that confused as he is - what he could productively do.
He was killed N1 the last game remember - and we are getting towards end of D1 now.
The last bit was just a bit of edginess I threw in as he could be mafia for all I know.

Fpd by ew

[halrob64]

Charle
Strike Wolf
Devante
All scum for standing in the shadows
Strike Wolf especially for making a weak excuse

[Darin44]

unvote

[Extreme Ways]

Charle
Strike Wolf
Devante
All scum for standing in the shadows
Strike Wolf especially for making a weak excuse

I forgot Charle was playing, whoops.

Agree with Strike. Moreso because Dev claimed a power role.

Dev is town or third party, the role with requirements it is not allowed to claim is a limitation that is not in a scum role.

[halrob64]

Sorry missed the Dev power role was that what the big sword thing was all about? I thought that was drunken ravings, he is known to smash up the local bar now and again

[Loose Canon]

Ok look theres a potential down the line interaction between Dev and Charle if one flips scum.
Charle pointed out that he thought it likely there would be few vanilla towns in a Sonic game.
And somewhere around that time was when Dev claimed he has a power role of some kind.

I don't agree that Dev has played in the shadows though.
Not since he came under pressure - but also I'm going to point out that before that Dev gave a sign he was coming out of the shadows anyway when he voted RogueTrouper. The earlier (potential) coming out of the shadows was cut short by Extremes replacement of Rogue.
Since he has been more active and apart from his very first nothing post when coming 'out of the shadows' I've got a town flavour from Dev which I haven't (yet) questioned myself on.

And also I haven't apart from the opening overenthusiastic stock in trade lets get mafia from Charle yes he's 'played in the shadows' but so far nothing else that has raised my eyebrows.
At the moment out of Charle and Dev I think Charle deserves more pressure going forwards.

Strike is one of the players wo has raised my eyebrows more than most others.

But then going back to Halrob who said for him Charle Dev and Strike, so far Halrob has raised my eyebrows more than either of the 3 above.

Talking of being in the shadows though Darins 'unvote' was a nothing.

fpd by halrob

[halrob64]

But then going back to Halrob who said for him Charle Dev and Strike, so far Halrob has raised my eyebrows more than either of the 3 above.

One would hope I have raised your eyebrows I have made quite a lot of points, that's why I pointed out Charle in particular and Strike who havn't.
If you think doing nothing is a good then Loose then I must respect what you say as one of the senior players here

[halrob64]

meant to say a lot of posts

[halrob64]

Anyway I can't spend a lot of time here for the moment I have visits to make

[Loose Canon]

I don't think doing/saying nothing is good.

[Extreme Ways]

Ok look theres a potential down the line interaction between Dev and Charle if one flips scum.
Charle pointed out that he thought it likely there would be few vanilla towns in a Sonic game.
And somewhere around that time was when Dev claimed he has a power role of some kind.

I don't agree that Dev has played in the shadows though.
Not since he came under pressure - but also I'm going to point out that before that Dev gave a sign he was coming out of the shadows anyway when he voted RogueTrouper. The earlier (potential) coming out of the shadows was cut short by Extremes replacement of Rogue.
Since he has been more active and apart from his very first nothing post when coming 'out of the shadows' I've got a town flavour from Dev which I haven't (yet) questioned myself on.

And also I haven't apart from the opening overenthusiastic stock in trade lets get mafia from Charle yes he's 'played in the shadows' but so far nothing else that has raised my eyebrows.
At the moment out of Charle and Dev I think Charle deserves more pressure going forwards.

Strike is one of the players wo has raised my eyebrows more than most others.

But then going back to Halrob who said for him Charle Dev and Strike, so far Halrob has raised my eyebrows more than either of the 3 above.

Talking of being in the shadows though Darins 'unvote' was a nothing.

fpd by halrob

I think this is something many thought and few said.

If Charle flips scum I think Halrob is just town for bringing him up just now out of nowhere.

[Extreme Ways]

@EW, early doors, I'd say that darin is playing to his town MO.

Fastposted again. f*ck sake, EW!

Eh, we'll see. There is time.

If I had to hazard a guess for a team of 3 (not accounting for multiple scum parties which Loose considered at some point)
- Dev
- Darin
- Halrob

Loose is town, Charle is town. Rag is town, Strike is pr, Halrob is pr or scum. I think hjelp is town with the focus on

By virtue of the names left over I think Kingm is silent and could be scum. Odds go up if Halrob is scum as I mentioned earlier, odds go down if Halrob is town.

Dev and Darin are a good starting point, I am more on the fence on Halrob.
Vote Devante
You dont pass the fluff bar bud, what do you have to say?

oops I forgot I townbinned Charle for his early play.

Dev is pr, Halrob claims pr, Strike is pr or scum.

vote kingm?

[Loose Canon]

I've sorted of accepted no lynch as D1 outcome, so this is a bit token but getting more out of kingm and placing him under some scrutiny to do so either today or tomorrow or both is worth a go, that I'll support

unvote Halrob vote Kingm

[Loose Canon]

Hmmm after following extreme I'm now unsettled at having done so.

Reason being I don't think extreme usually votes this much on day 1 of games. I've had the shivers that extreme is 3P.

I'll just re point out that rag on the other hand does usually vote D1 but hasn't this game.

It's the bout of Extreme shivering that's unsettling me right now though

[halrob64]

Steel in the Soul

Roll out when the moonlight cuts the street like a blade,
I’m the whisper in the alley where the fear gets made.
Clock tick slow, heartbeat cold, steady and clean,
Keep the peace in the dark, keep the dirt off the dream.
Ain’t no medals for the ones who don’t sleep,
I’m the wolf in the shadow while the lambs all keep.
Every breath is a risk, every move got a price,
But I do it for the ones livin’ honest, playin’ nice.

Iron in the blood and steel in the soul,
Walk through the fire just to keep control.
Hands never shake, heart never fold,
Iron in the blood and steel in the soul.

Mask on, hood up, I’m the ghost in the zone,
Handle business in silence, never answer the phone.
Truth cut deep like a razor’s edge,
I guard the line while they sleep on the ledge.
No crown, no fame, just a code I obey,
I don’t talk, I deliver — that’s the warrior way.
Streetlight flicker like a pulse in the night,
I’m the dark they depend on to bring back the light.

Iron in the blood and steel in the soul,
Walk through the fire just to keep control.
Hands never shake, heart never fold,
Iron in the blood and steel in the soul.

Ain’t a hero, ain’t a villain — just the space in between,
Where the law fades gray and the streets stay mean.
You don’t see my name, but you sleep just fine,
’Cause I walk that edge where the devils dine.

Iron in the blood and steel in the soul,
Night after night, that’s the toll.
Built from pain, but it makes me whole —
Iron in the blood and steel in the soul.
Maybe or maybe not a lynching on D1 but its time to start sniffing out the bad guys.
I think EW is a bad un
or is my diagnosis wrong Loose?

[hjelp]

I'm thinking

@halrob64
You think that EW might be a bad one and you ask Loose to justify yes or no.
Do you consider Loose bad or good?
It will bias what Loose will answer.

[halrob64]

Not asking Loose to justify, I was curious what he thought, maybe your thoughts as well then jhelp

[hjelp]

First post was

ROGUETROOPER IS SUBBED BY EW BECAUSE NO RESPONSE BY ALL MEANS AFTER SEVERAL PRODS.


Meaning: All votes on Roguetrooper SOFAR are declared null and void.


And big WELCOME to our sub EW

hi im town

tomorrow more

and no one doubt it. Then follows up - most posts are summarising.
last one

@EW, early doors, I'd say that darin is playing to his town MO.

Fastposted again. f*ck sake, EW!

Eh, we'll see. There is time.

If I had to hazard a guess for a team of 3 (not accounting for multiple scum parties which Loose considered at some point)
- Dev
- Darin
- Halrob

Loose is town, Charle is town. Rag is town, Strike is pr, Halrob is pr or scum. I think hjelp is town with the focus on

By virtue of the names left over I think Kingm is silent and could be scum. Odds go up if Halrob is scum as I mentioned earlier, odds go down if Halrob is town.

Dev and Darin are a good starting point, I am more on the fence on Halrob.
Vote Devante
You dont pass the fluff bar bud, what do you have to say?

oops I forgot I townbinned Charle for his early play.

Dev is pr, Halrob claims pr, Strike is pr or scum.

vote kingm?

If EW is bad then Town so far can benefits of EW's posts.
I have voted for strike wolf

Charle
Strike Wolf
Devante
All scum for standing in the shadows
Strike Wolf especially for making a weak excuse

I forgot Charle was playing, whoops.

Agree with Strike. Moreso because Dev claimed a power role.

Dev is town or third party, the role with requirements it is not allowed to claim is a limitation that is not in a scum role.

and you (halrob) and EW are suspicious of strike wolf.

My suggestion is to pull the pressure on strike wolf.

[halrob64]

Interesting, but not a lot of point putting pressure on Strikewolf as he/she doesn't seem to want to play or is deliberately playing the silent game, as is Charle at the moment.
so are you suggesting we put pressure on Strike by lynching as was done with Dev to get a claim jhelp?

[Ragian]

@Son!c, how does it look with a replacement for Strike? Devon put himself down as a potential sub, and Strike is saying that he hasn't the time for this...

[SoN!c]

@Son!c, how does it look with a replacement for Strike? Devon put himself down as a potential sub, and Strike is saying that he hasn't the time for this...

Devon and Chana can sub i think and if needed. I have to ask Chana first.

[hjelp]

@Son!c, how does it look with a replacement for Strike? Devon put himself down as a potential sub, and Strike is saying that he hasn't the time for this...

I guess Son!c has to pm strike wolf to get an answer to that. Meanwhile I suggest we put pressure on Strike by lynching as was done with Dev to get a claim.

[halrob64]

I guess Son!c has to pm strike wolf to get an answer to that. Meanwhile I suggest we put pressure on Strike by lynching as was done with Dev to get a claim.

I'm not sure that's going to help jhelp maybe better to see if he is going to continue first?