D3 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

[halrob64]

EW do you own a white coat?

[Kingm]

Yeah, but with the host we have, I actually believe its possible that we are 11 townies, and we sit here lynching 1 townies after the other, and after there is 2 left, SoN!c says hahahaha this is the Reid technique, I tricked and manipulated you all.

Its probably only a 1% chance of something like that, but hey its sonic

The poems are real if you know how to decipher the coded signal they hold and how to reid them - not a typo

But FFS I hated analyzing poems back in school, and that was 25-30 years ago, no way I want to start now............

[hjelp]

Then hjelp: I found the game where I usually find games. In a thread called mafia games. If the former game was also in "announcements", then alright.

- Yes, it was in the "announcements".

Ragian written words reminds me of a SoN!c mafia successor.

Are you trying to goad me or something?

hm, classic reaction from "mob". Do I have to be afraid of you?
Regarding your early attack without argument - I see that you have stated why you did as you did i.e. no argument used. Also classic mob behaviour. I have watched Monthy Python and the episode where the mob threatens the army.
Here is a short excerpt
http://www.youtube.com/shorts/y2nmZx02IRU
You are acting in a similar way as the mob. Building up a threat.

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When have I called you scum? I can't recall even calling you scum at any point. You say that I've done so repeatedly. I mean, honestly, you seem really thin skinned this game, exacerbating what started as innocent banter. I didn't find you this thin skinned the last game, but the data is fickle with just one game with you.
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@ Ragian please reread my post. It is an answer to the question Loose Canon posed. the "" 's are excerpts from what strike wolf stated.

I have micro suspicions on a lot of players at the moment.

The below post of mine got two reactions I want to comment upon;
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1. Strikes reaction - seems he isn't playing the oh I've been busy, need to catch up on reading then post what I think line that he often trots out. That's good re game participation but it doesn't make him town. In fact his reaction makes me marginally lean towards him being mafia this game.
So whereas before voting re Strike I wanted to a prod Strike because a mislynch on an inactive town Strike would be a mislynch I could most easily live with, now I do actually feel a micro suspicion on Strike.
How do others feel about Strikes reaction?

strike wolf seemed to pass "... Honestly, Rag calling me scum repeatedly just seems to read as trying to get a reaction to me. Loose and Hal questioned it, which I feel is mostly a natural response ..." and immediately turned the focus to "... Im less certain on what to make of Loose voting me over it. Either way, I am kind of more interested in those who have been active and just kind of ignored it. .."

A classical reaction to hide something is to change focus to something else. So it can be that strike wolf has something to hide.

I used the wrong word in my anwer to Loose Canon. it shall read
- A classic reaction to hide something is to change focus to something else. So it can be that strike wolf has something to hide. -

[Loose Canon]

The people are real, the cases are real, the poems are real, who is the Judge Judy of the game, The Sonic Show will reveal all

Halrob you are guilty of being funny

[Ragian]

So, are you saying that I haven't called you scum repeatedly, then, hjelp?

[hjelp]

@ Ragian
Correct, you haven't called me scum at all.

[hjelp]

Ragian written words reminds me of a SoN!c mafia successor.

Are you trying to goad me or something?

[/quote]
hm, classic reaction from "mob". Do I have to be afraid of you?
Regarding your early attack without argument - I see that you have stated why you did as you did i.e. no argument used. Also classic mob behaviour. I have watched Monthy Python and the episode where the mob threatens the army.
Here is a short excerpt

You are acting in a similar way as the mob. Building up a threat.

[hjelp]

hm, they change the link in youtube...

[halrob64]

Hjelp are you trying to needle Ragian or stitch him up?

[Extreme Ways]

Cor blimey boys what a set up

What an entry to the game. Strongly signals not vanilla, Halrob should not be alive when game ends. I'm thinking scum rather than town based off of how Halrob played the cop game.

Jesus guys, I'm already laughing my ass of, wtf guys hehe

And LC why are you asking everyone if they are Mafia?
Hmm, nah I'm probably reading to much into this, its after all D1, or D0,5?

should Halrob flip scum, this reads like a textbook distraction to pull attention away from Halrob and unto Loose. I found Loose's post valid and natural.

I should say, after this Halrob feels a lot more natural.

Charle/Loose feel town based on entry. Strike I would throw in the townbin based on:

Jeez Rag give Kong a break. Hes apparently been wearing lycra and spandex all day and you expect him to smell like fresh laundry?

Joking but not joking too much can be hard to do as scum, and this post feels like the correct amount of 1) content related to mafia 2) joking.

[Extreme Ways]

I know I wasn't asked, but personally I'm modelling myself off the humble everyday man. A man of the people, with good in his heart, and calluses on his hands. Maybe he doesn't care much for chocolate, but for the foreseeable future we will be aligned in purpose and intention with all those who care for this flawed, but beautiful community we have here today. I can only hope that we can collectively overcome the trials and tribulations which may yet face us and find peace and tranquility from a troubled world.

I think we have a candidate for the first lynching as I can't put up with more of this in the game

I kind of agree with you

we have nothing else to go with

Wild assessment when the first page of the game was with plenty accusations. I made my own assessment in the post above, with hopefully original opinions or at least clearly stated stances.

Darin is fencesitting, "kind of agreeing" with Halrob for someone who is emulating a gimmick. Doesn't want any of the accountability if it ends up hitting town.

Minor scumpoints for Halrob to suggest Kong as a lynch candidate as imo he was the primary focus so far but taking the flight forward when pushed isn't all bad. I just dislike the way he went about it.

[Ragian]

Cool, so I just went back and, yes, only now, realise that I completely missed the quotation marks. So, apologies go out to hjelp. Some teacher I am

Fp'ed by EW

[Extreme Ways]

Of the flavour/poem there's quite a bit that implies 3 factions to me, also a vampire faction, also that results of night actions can be deceptive.
I don't mind players giving their interpretations/thoughts on flavour./poem.

Of the notable postings so far giving indications of players alignments;

Charle's lets get the mafia opening post is to me a bit stock in trade that Charle has posted as town or as mafia in the past.
Slight mafia leaning for me this game but very slight.

Halrob's cor blimey what a set up post is the most mafia leaning post for me so far, even though its not that strong after he explained it.
But his diversion/joining diversion onto Kong now has sort of rekindled my mafia suspicion of Halrob somewhat.

Kongs post - yes it was strange. I can't imagine why Kong posted it as Mafia right now.
I am thinking there probably was purpose to it from Kongs point of view though - and if so that could be nefarious.
Right now I'm happy for others to pressurise Kong, if they want to - but unless/until something else falls out from it - I won't be adding to the pressure with my vote.

I can confirm that this game has bastard elements (== info you get told from mod may not always be entirely correct).

I will also not be reading puzzle stuff I'll leave it up to Loose.

[Extreme Ways]

Everyone is silent.

From what I read "Reid Technique" is a dodgy interrogation technique.

I'm wondering if one player has a day role choosing a player to interrogate, Kong was chosen, and Kong had to say what sonic told him
to say - which in turn would be a clue about kongs role.

I'm only familiar with the adult movie star Reid...

[Ragian]

@EW, early doors, I'd say that darin is playing to his town MO.

Fastposted again. f*ck sake, EW!

[Extreme Ways]

I agree completely with Ragian, we need to push for a claim first. In that case, I think I am going to try a claim out of Rob first. Not that we want to reveal our roles this early, but he sounds the most scummy to me at the moment.

Vote Halrob

Why Halrab and not Rag, Rag always seem scummy to me. That just me maybe just bitter I guess

Bit unsure what I think of this because if it was me thinking "Rag is scummy, then again Rag always seems scummy to me" I wouldn't push for Rag that hard.

I'm intrigued by Rags - Stroke is mafia line.

I'm going to discount that Rag has any firm evidence of that (unless he says otherwise).
That leaves one of the following possibilities;

1. Rag thinks he has a probable tell on Strike (but I haven't so I'm virtually discounting that too, unless Rag says what he thinks it is)
2. Rag is town and has picked Strike virtually at random to try to get a claim out of (- perhaps thinking why not - if Strike has a town PR he's going to be a reasonably likely target for mafia anyway)
3. Rag is mafia (and strike may or may not be) but either way its a win win for a mafia Rag to get claim out of Strike.

Rag hasn't actually voted Strike I see.

I'm going to vote Strike Vote Strike and see where it goes.

I'm also going to say to Rag, justify either your suspicions on Strike OR justify or at least discuss the tactic of trying to get a claim out of Strike.

FP'd by Darin - both valid posts

I'm sure I'll get to the reasons why Rag thinks Strike is scum (which is - from what I've read so far - the opposite of my read) but I like Loose prodding and pushing. Loose is town and solving, contributing to town whether the pushes are right or wrong.

[Extreme Ways]

But it is not a bad beginning which might be very useful later in the game. So everybody votes for the person they feel is the most scummy with a reason and we take it from there.

So from my side, it is only Rob's opening statement that he might by mistake mentioned of the nice setup, and only scum knows each others names at this stage, but I don't think they know each other's roles yet, which they will only find out tonight when they chat.

Having said this, and thinking while I am typing, Rob could probably just received a cool role, so I am back to square 1 with no idea, although i don't think anybody as any idea at this stage

Unvote Halrob

I expect them to know what their roles are.

but I like your re-evaluation on Rob.

[Extreme Ways]

@Devante

You're acting like a scum. jump on people and is rude.

Genuine annoyance over Dev's joke.

Now I need to defend my food from my cat, break time.

[Extreme Ways]

@halrob64, it seems a bit too overeager to want to lynch someone based on one weird post to which we have no idea of the background. Maybe start by asking questions and then push using your vote. But first we go for a claim. Not a blind lynch.

Moreover, one must expect a very hands-on mod when Son!c is modding, so there's no way of saying that what he posted isn't mod directed. (And if it was given away in a poem, Haiku, Limerick, or something in that vein, I didn't bother...)

One thing I do know, however, is that no self-respecting scum - no matter how experienced - would waltz in here, drawing attention to themselves like that. Usually, scum stays quiet in the beginning to see how things unfold. Unless they have a psychological need to talk incessantly

That said, Strike is scum.

Didnt you call Strike scum based on the one post they made?

[Extreme Ways]

You're good, Strike. I love it. Yeah, I just threw it out there because a) people are busy trying to find clues/guess a setup they have zero ideas about at this stage - and I'll say it again: It's a way to appear active without really doing anything - and b) to see how people reacted. There have been several reactions, but I sort of agree with Strike that those who haven't reacted - maybe apart from the fashionably late couple - look most interesting.

Also, I think halrob has confused Darin and me due to Darin quoting halrob while addressing me. Darin always finding me suspicious I probably can't do anything about

@hjelp, I think Devante's vote(s) on you is a joke precisely because he entered just before you. Your reaction to his vote, and your point about where to find the game have me raising an eyebrow, however. Where did you find the previous game, and why didn't you just shrug off the (to me obvious joke) vote when you correctly acknowledge that Devante would by hypocritical to vote you with the grounds provided?

It seems I got got

My list is:
Ragian
Devante

Based on Ragian early attack without argument.
Devante based on "bully rudness" and no posts.

I feel like Rag explained his argument perfectly fine. Strike was just the vehicle.

[Extreme Ways]

EW do you own a white coat?

not that im aware of

I would say you read too much into the flavour but it's a sonic game so anything can happen I guess.
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Rag points out hjelp's list:

First of all, who the frick is Hans25? Son!c's multi?

Then hjelp: I found the game where I usually find games. In a thread called mafia games. If the former game was also in "announcements", then alright. Just came off weird. (I'm used to students saying that their dogs ate their essays.) However, the more interesting parts are these:

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But now it's a game. And in games a "scum" also has the properties of a "bully".
Now you're defending a "bully", so maybe you're a scum too?
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I presume the "bully", in your opinion, is Devante. He made an obvious joke. It's not really bullying...

Ragian written words reminds me of a SoN!c mafia successor.

Are you trying to goad me or something?

Vote Ragian

Wow...that came quickly. With no interaction with me in between.

My list is:
Ragian
Devante

Based on Ragian early attack without argument.
Devante based on "bully rudness" and no posts.

Two players have talked to you. One with a joke and the other with a poke. That's your list...

[...] Honestly, Rag calling me scum repeatedly just seems to read as trying to get a reaction to me.

When have I called you scum? I can't recall even calling you scum at any point. You say that I've done so repeatedly. I mean, honestly, you seem really thin skinned this game, exacerbating what started as innocent banter. I didn't find you this thin skinned the last game, but the data is fickle with just one game with you.

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@Rag I think you screw me over in a game before. prison one I thank

If I can get over that we're good

Oh no! How can I make it up to you?

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@Loose, I know you want things to happen quicker than a canon can be reloaded, but you are just going to have to be patient. D1 is nowhere near over. Pressure will build. I already have notes from the random Strike comment. However, I'll let EW settle into the game before moving on with this. It also seems that there might be surströmming to fry

I think this is more likely to come from town? I dont see mafia pushing only those who they are interacting with.

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Dev's posts are hitting the fluff line and not much more. Need an eye on them.

[Kingm]

Hjelp are you trying to needle Ragian or stitch him up?

Probably good to get this out in the open.

Ragian is from Denmark
Hjelp is from Sweden

For the last 1,5 years Swedens football team had a coach named Jon Dahl Tomasson as a head coach, and Sweden has never been worse then they are now, and it probably all because of the coach, but they just fired him, so the relationship between Sweden and Denmark should get better with time.

Just wanted to give some backstory to why those guys are at eachothers throat.

[Extreme Ways]

@EW, early doors, I'd say that darin is playing to his town MO.

Fastposted again. f*ck sake, EW!

Eh, we'll see. There is time.

If I had to hazard a guess for a team of 3 (not accounting for multiple scum parties which Loose considered at some point)
- Dev
- Darin
- Halrob

Loose is town, Charle is town. Rag is town, Strike is pr, Halrob is pr or scum. I think hjelp is town with the focus on

By virtue of the names left over I think Kingm is silent and could be scum. Odds go up if Halrob is scum as I mentioned earlier, odds go down if Halrob is town.

Dev and Darin are a good starting point, I am more on the fence on Halrob.
Vote Devante
You dont pass the fluff bar bud, what do you have to say?

[Kingm]

Everyone is silent.

From what I read "Reid Technique" is a dodgy interrogation technique.

I'm wondering if one player has a day role choosing a player to interrogate, Kong was chosen, and Kong had to say what sonic told him
to say - which in turn would be a clue about kongs role.

I'm only familiar with the adult movie star Reid...

I just had to give you a LOL from this one, and maybe I should also ask if I should check her out

[Kingm]

Hjelp are you trying to needle Ragian or stitch him up?

Probably good to get this out in the open.

Ragian is from Denmark
Hjelp is from Sweden

For the last 1,5 years Swedens football team had a coach named Jon Dahl Tomasson as a head coach, and Sweden has never been worse then they are now, and it probably all because of the coach, but they just fired him, so the relationship between Sweden and Denmark should get better with time.

Just wanted to give some backstory to why those guys are at eachothers throat.

Ahh reread my post now, Tomasson is from Denmark, so it made no sense to anyone but Ragian and Hjelp without that info