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Thank you to everybody running the tournament who have worked to correct this issue. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a giant pain in the butt. It means a lot to us, all the time you've all put into this. Looking forward to continuing the round of 16, once things get figured out.
Bari
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Sorry for the issue and a special thanks to Big Wham for solving this.
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First of all, thanks everyone for running this one, and thanks for fixing this quick.
The best of 16 matchups are like this:
GloriousL - kizkiz
_Untouchable - ZaBeast
Iron Maid - Kingm
Wheelwright - Pajarito
t4mcr53s2 - Donelladan
Clanlord Carl - Fyrdraca
hjelp - Bariclaw
dkmaster - rousseau72
Looks like a lot of exiting matchups, gl to everyone
The best of 16 matchups are like this:
GloriousL - kizkiz
_Untouchable - ZaBeast
Iron Maid - Kingm
Wheelwright - Pajarito
t4mcr53s2 - Donelladan
Clanlord Carl - Fyrdraca
hjelp - Bariclaw
dkmaster - rousseau72
Looks like a lot of exiting matchups, gl to everyone
Highscore : 4349 Date : 17.6.12
Rank : 6 Date : 13.6.12
Highscore after comeback : 3985 Date : 18.7.25
Rank : 9 Date : 18.7.25

Rank : 6 Date : 13.6.12
Highscore after comeback : 3985 Date : 18.7.25
Rank : 9 Date : 18.7.25

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Very hard to Predict these head to heads. Organisers you should be messaging everyone in CC with this news to hype this premier tourneyment.Kingm wrote:First of all, thanks everyone for running this one, and thanks for fixing this quick.
The best of 16 matchups are like this:
GloriousL - kizkiz
_Untouchable - ZaBeast
Iron Maid - Kingm
Wheelwright - Pajarito
t4mcr53s2 - Donelladan
Clanlord Carl - Fyrdraca
hjelp - Bariclaw
dkmaster - rousseau72
Looks like a lot of exiting matchups, gl to everyone
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Well let's play a game then:
GloriousL - kizkiz
_Untouchable - ZaBeast
Iron Maid - Kingm
Wheelwright - Pajarito
t4mcr53s2 - Donelladan
Clanlord Carl - Fyrdraca
hjelp - Bariclaw
dkmaster - rousseau72
Anyone else with some predictions?
GloriousL - kizkiz
_Untouchable - ZaBeast
Iron Maid - Kingm
Wheelwright - Pajarito
t4mcr53s2 - Donelladan
Clanlord Carl - Fyrdraca
hjelp - Bariclaw
dkmaster - rousseau72
Anyone else with some predictions?
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Id say former champion T4 might be in with an upset chance and untouchable is hard to bet against and wheelwright is very strong.Swimmerdude99 wrote:Well let's play a game then:
GloriousL - kizkiz
_Untouchable - ZaBeast
Iron Maid - Kingm
Wheelwright - Pajarito
t4mcr53s2 - Donelladan
Clanlord Carl - Fyrdraca
hjelp - Bariclaw
dkmaster - rousseau72
Anyone else with some predictions?
GloriousL - kizkiz An end to a glorious run ?
_Untouchable - ZaBeast cant touch this !
Iron Maid - Kingm Iron King will win !
Wheelwright - Pajarito stop press with only 7 first starts (8.35%) wheel boy might have blown a turbo...oh dear. Turns out no turbo required.
t4mcr53s2 - Donelladan upset predicted !
Clanlord Carl - Fyrdraca I mean come on its the Clanlord !
hjelp - Bariclaw Da Claw wants a final rematch he has to get there first !
dkmaster - rousseau72 Another impossible to call.
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I've gotta go with my clan mates, but pretty much agree with carl otherwiseClanlord Carl wrote:Swimmerdude99 wrote:Well let's play a game then:
GloriousL - kizkiz
_Untouchable - ZaBeast
Iron Maid - Kingm
Wheelwright - Pajarito
t4mcr53s2 - Donelladan
Clanlord Carl - Fyrdraca
hjelp - Bariclaw
dkmaster - rousseau72
Anyone else with some predictions?
Id say former champion T4 might be in with an upset chance and untouchable is hard to bet against and wheelwright is very strong.
GloriousL - kizkiz An end to a glorious run ?
_Untouchable - ZaBeast cant honestly choose
Iron Maid - Kingm
Wheelwright - Pajarito
t4mcr53s2 - Donelladan upset predicted !
Clanlord Carl - Fyrdraca
hjelp - Bariclaw
dkmaster - rousseau72
I may have some inside knowledge for my series with GloriousL

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Of interest, the top 4 from 2019 are still in
Clanlord Carl
Bariclaw
Untouchable
Kizkiz
Clanlord Carl
Bariclaw
Untouchable
Kizkiz

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1 specialise in winning by 1 point eh Untouchable and Bariclaw !!!! My best ever CC memories. Still remember the sadness as hopes are dashed sometimes i feel for the loser when they play to near perfection and the dice get them....kizkiz wrote:Of interest, the top 4 from 2019 are still in
Clanlord Carl
Bariclaw
Untouchable
Kizkiz
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I see on the finished matches 10/9 for Clanlord and 11/8 for kizkiz.
My series will probably finish 10/9 as well.
Looking logical for the 1vs1 games which are basically coin flip games when both player have a bit of skills.
My series will probably finish 10/9 as well.
Looking logical for the 1vs1 games which are basically coin flip games when both player have a bit of skills.
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I have my series vs Iron Made down to 10-9 or 11-8 to me, but its still time for me to do a bottlejob.
And the reason I would call it a bottle is that I got freaking 13 starts, and that's just nasty, should be a way to code it so that one player gets 10 starts and the other 9, because this is just unfair, and I would be so pissed if I was IM, and if I advance to the last 8, then I'm sure karma will kick me and my teeth and I don't get any starts at all.
And the reason I would call it a bottle is that I got freaking 13 starts, and that's just nasty, should be a way to code it so that one player gets 10 starts and the other 9, because this is just unfair, and I would be so pissed if I was IM, and if I advance to the last 8, then I'm sure karma will kick me and my teeth and I don't get any starts at all.
Highscore : 4349 Date : 17.6.12
Rank : 6 Date : 13.6.12
Highscore after comeback : 3985 Date : 18.7.25
Rank : 9 Date : 18.7.25

Rank : 6 Date : 13.6.12
Highscore after comeback : 3985 Date : 18.7.25
Rank : 9 Date : 18.7.25

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So I put in an update here, most of the matches are either over, or almost over, but there is a couple that does not have many finished games.
_Untouchable - ZaBeast : 0-0, 19 TBD
dkmaster - rousseau72 : 1-1, 17 TBD
Iron Maid - Kingm : 6-9, 4 TBD
Wheelwright - Pajarito : 7-8, 4 TBD
t4mcr53s2 - Donelladan : 10-3, 6 TBD
hjelp - Bariclaw : 3-10, 6 TBD
Clanlord Carl - Fyrdraca : 10-9
GloriousL - kizkiz : 8-11
_Untouchable - ZaBeast : 0-0, 19 TBD
dkmaster - rousseau72 : 1-1, 17 TBD
Iron Maid - Kingm : 6-9, 4 TBD
Wheelwright - Pajarito : 7-8, 4 TBD
t4mcr53s2 - Donelladan : 10-3, 6 TBD
hjelp - Bariclaw : 3-10, 6 TBD
Clanlord Carl - Fyrdraca : 10-9
GloriousL - kizkiz : 8-11
Highscore : 4349 Date : 17.6.12
Rank : 6 Date : 13.6.12
Highscore after comeback : 3985 Date : 18.7.25
Rank : 9 Date : 18.7.25

Rank : 6 Date : 13.6.12
Highscore after comeback : 3985 Date : 18.7.25
Rank : 9 Date : 18.7.25

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If it was 'random' how come i was able to predict all the match results so early based purely on what i know the players relative 1v1 strengths are. 19 games is enough for randomness to be partily eliminated. Press i think i under estimated Rousseau...DK up against it. Nah DK shades it as i guessed he would.Donelladan wrote:I see on the finished matches 10/9 for Clanlord and 11/8 for kizkiz.
My series will probably finish 10/9 as well.
Looking logical for the 1vs1 games which are basically coin flip games when both player have a bit of skills.
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All finished matches so far are by one or two games.Clanlord Carl wrote:If it was 'random' how come i was able to predict all the match results so early based purely on what i know the players relative 1v1 strengths are. 19 games is enough for randomness to be partily eliminated.Donelladan wrote:I see on the finished matches 10/9 for Clanlord and 11/8 for kizkiz.
My series will probably finish 10/9 as well.
Looking logical for the 1vs1 games which are basically coin flip games when both player have a bit of skills.
One game difference can literally be one roll in one turn.
Finishing 10 to 9 means there is basically no skill difference.
I bet you if we'd play the exact same series again half of the winner would be different, hence random.
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Kingm wrote:So I put in an update here, most of the matches are either over, or almost over, but there is a couple that does not have many finished games.
_Untouchable - ZaBeast : 0-0, 19 TBD
dkmaster - rousseau72 : 1-1, 17 TBD
Iron Maid - Kingm : 6-9, 4 TBD
Wheelwright - Pajarito : 7-8, 4 TBD
t4mcr53s2 - Donelladan : 10-3, 6 TBD
hjelp - Bariclaw : 3-10, 6 TBD
Clanlord Carl - Fyrdraca : 10-9
GloriousL - kizkiz : 8-11
Updated status
_Untouchable - ZaBeast : 0-0, 19 Untouchable has enough games as good as over to hit 10 wins barring anything majorly catastrophic
dkmaster - rousseau72 : 7-9, 17 DKMaster will take this 10-9
Iron Maid - Kingm : 7-9, 3 TBD - Looks like being 9-9 with a pacman decider
t4mcr53s2 - Donelladan : 10-7, 2 TBD
hjelp - Bariclaw : 4-12, 3 TBD
Clanlord Carl - Fyrdraca : 10-9
GloriousL - kizkiz : 8-11
Wheelwright - Pajarito : 10-9

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Iron maid i think has a slight upper hand in pacman he is dropping a few more troops so another huge upset could see the king crashing out. But as its fog no way to be sure. God thats embarrassing with 13 starts....nice work Iron maid.kizkiz wrote:Kingm wrote:So I put in an update here, most of the matches are either over, or almost over, but there is a couple that does not have many finished games.
_Untouchable - ZaBeast : 0-0, 19 TBD
dkmaster - rousseau72 : 1-1, 17 TBD
Iron Maid - Kingm : 6-9, 4 TBD
Wheelwright - Pajarito : 7-8, 4 TBD
t4mcr53s2 - Donelladan : 10-3, 6 TBD
hjelp - Bariclaw : 3-10, 6 TBD
Clanlord Carl - Fyrdraca : 10-9
GloriousL - kizkiz : 8-11
Updated status
_Untouchable - ZaBeast : 0-0, 19 Untouchable has enough games as good as over to hit 10 wins barring anything majorly catastrophic
dkmaster - rousseau72 : 7-9, 17 DKMaster will take this 10-9
Iron Maid - Kingm : 7-9, 3 TBD - Looks like being 9-9 with a pacman decider
t4mcr53s2 - Donelladan : 10-7, 2 TBD
hjelp - Bariclaw : 4-12, 3 TBD
Clanlord Carl - Fyrdraca : 10-9
GloriousL - kizkiz : 8-11
Wheelwright - Pajarito : 10-9
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Yeah, I'm almost sure that it will be 10-9 to Iron, and yeah I'm not happy at all, you can call med Arsenal..Clanlord Carl wrote: Iron maid i think has a slight upper hand in pacman he is dropping a few more troops so another huge upset could see the king crashing out. But as its fog no way to be sure. God thats embarrassing with 13 starts....nice work Iron maid.
But I'm happy with my play I think I only had like 2-3 mistakes total in all 19 games, but dice and cardluck etc was just brutal.
But Iron Maid played great and deserves the set
Highscore : 4349 Date : 17.6.12
Rank : 6 Date : 13.6.12
Highscore after comeback : 3985 Date : 18.7.25
Rank : 9 Date : 18.7.25

Rank : 6 Date : 13.6.12
Highscore after comeback : 3985 Date : 18.7.25
Rank : 9 Date : 18.7.25

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Your a great sport ! Here new legends are made and others fall. Untouchable and Zabeast are currently making legends as the slowest players in CC history.Kingm wrote:Yeah, I'm almost sure that it will be 10-9 to Iron, and yeah I'm not happy at all, you can call med Arsenal..Clanlord Carl wrote: Iron maid i think has a slight upper hand in pacman he is dropping a few more troops so another huge upset could see the king crashing out. But as its fog no way to be sure. God thats embarrassing with 13 starts....nice work Iron maid.
But I'm happy with my play I think I only had like 2-3 mistakes total in all 19 games, but dice and cardluck etc was just brutal.
But Iron Maid played great and deserves the set
Just a thought Kingm - if i promoted myself to King - id be Clanking Carl - i do like to make a lot of noise.
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Thanks. Not over yet. Conquer Man is the decider. I'm finally 1 region ahead after 15 turns. By the way I had 8 starts (not 6).Kingm wrote:Yeah, I'm almost sure that it will be 10-9 to Iron, and yeah I'm not happy at all, you can call med Arsenal..Clanlord Carl wrote: Iron maid i think has a slight upper hand in pacman he is dropping a few more troops so another huge upset could see the king crashing out. But as its fog no way to be sure. God thats embarrassing with 13 starts....nice work Iron maid.
But I'm happy with my play I think I only had like 2-3 mistakes total in all 19 games, but dice and cardluck etc was just brutal.
But Iron Maid played great and deserves the set
If 1 turn decided this whole set it was Turn 6 of Napoleonic Europe:
2025-08-08 08:02:54 - Incrementing game to round 5
2025-08-08 08:03:36 - Iron Maid received 4 troops for 14 regions
2025-08-08 08:03:44 - Iron Maid deployed 4 troops on Krakow
2025-08-08 08:03:46 - Iron Maid assaulted Belorussia (Beresina, November 1812) from Krakow and conquered it from Kingm
2025-08-08 08:03:52 - Iron Maid assaulted Smolensk (Smolensk, August 1812) from Belorussia (Beresina, November 1812) and conquered it from Kingm
2025-08-08 08:04:00 - Iron Maid assaulted Vilno from Belorussia (Beresina, November 1812) and conquered it from Kingm
2025-08-08 08:04:03 - Iron Maid assaulted Es: East Prussia (Friedland, June 1807) from Vilno and conquered it from Kingm
2025-08-08 08:04:23 - Iron Maid reinforced Provence with 1 troops from Piedmont (Marengo, June 1800)
2025-08-08 08:04:23 - Iron Maid ended the turn and got spoils
2025-08-08 08:07:38 - Kingm got bonus of 1 troops added to Istanbul
2025-08-08 08:07:38 - Kingm received 2 troops for holding 3 Battle Sites w/ a Capital
2025-08-08 08:07:38 - Kingm received 6 troops for 19 regions
2025-08-08 08:08:14 - Kingm deployed 8 troops on Kiev
2025-08-08 08:08:16 - Kingm assaulted Smolensk (Smolensk, August 1812) from Kiev and conquered it from Iron Maid
2025-08-08 08:08:29 - Kingm assaulted Belorussia (Beresina, November 1812) from Kiev and conquered it from Iron Maid
2025-08-08 08:08:31 - Kingm assaulted Krakow from Belorussia (Beresina, November 1812) and conquered it from Iron Maid
2025-08-08 08:08:38 - Kingm assaulted Vilno from Belorussia (Beresina, November 1812) and conquered it from Iron Maid
2025-08-08 08:09:46 - Kingm reinforced Andalucia with 1 troops from Gibraltar
2025-08-08 08:09:46 - Kingm ended the turn and got spoils
2025-08-08 08:09:46 - Incrementing game to round 6
2025-08-08 08:11:20 - Iron Maid received 4 troops for 14 regions
2025-08-08 08:11:31 - Iron Maid played a set of Sardinia, Anatolia, and Valencia worth 10 troops
2025-08-08 08:11:37 - Iron Maid deployed 14 troops on Provence
2025-08-08 08:11:38 - Iron Maid assaulted Corsica from Provence and conquered it from Kingm
2025-08-08 08:11:42 - Iron Maid assaulted Aboukir (August 1798) from Corsica and conquered it from neutral player
2025-08-08 08:11:49 - Iron Maid assaulted Palestine (Jaffa, March 1799) from Aboukir (August 1798) and conquered it from Kingm
2025-08-08 08:11:52 - Iron Maid assaulted Anatolia from Palestine (Jaffa, March 1799) and conquered it from Kingm
2025-08-08 08:11:59 - Iron Maid assaulted Istanbul from Anatolia and conquered it from Kingm
2025-08-08 08:12:07 - Iron Maid assaulted Dardanelles (May 1807) from Istanbul and conquered it from Kingm
2025-08-08 08:12:16 - Iron Maid assaulted Crimea from Dardanelles (May 1807) and conquered it from Kingm
2025-08-08 08:12:31 - Iron Maid assaulted Rumelia (Rousse, October 1811) from Istanbul and conquered it from Kingm
2025-08-08 08:12:37 - Iron Maid assaulted Morea from Rumelia (Rousse, October 1811) and conquered it from Kingm
2025-08-08 08:12:43 - Iron Maid assaulted Bosnia from Rumelia (Rousse, October 1811) and conquered it from Kingm
2025-08-08 08:12:56 - Iron Maid reinforced Istanbul with 2 troops from Rumelia (Rousse, October 1811)
2025-08-08 08:12:56 - Iron Maid ended the turn and got spoils
2025-08-08 08:16:27 - Kingm got bonus of -2 troops added to Smolensk (Smolensk, August 1812)
2025-08-08 08:16:27 - Kingm received 4 troops for 14 regions
2025-08-08 08:16:31 - Kingm played a set of Palestine (Jaffa, March 1799), Burgundy (Chateau-Thiery, February 1814), and Krakow worth 4 troops
2025-08-08 08:16:31 - Kingm got bonus of 2 troops added to Krakow
2025-08-08 08:16:34 - Kingm deployed 8 troops on Sicily
2025-08-08 08:17:36 - Kingm assaulted Leon (Salamanca, July 1812) from Ex: Extremadura (Badajoz, March 1812) and conquered it from Iron Maid
2025-08-08 08:18:08 - Kingm reinforced Belorussia (Beresina, November 1812) with 2 troops from Krakow
2025-08-08 08:18:08 - Kingm ended the turn and got spoils
This shows how close these series can go, even if fought out over 19 games.
Kingm is a very good player and a great sports. We'll see how the battle ends. Can still go both ways.

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Only one match to go, and according to the players, it will be Iron Maid
Not sure I'd want to be calling the winner in any of the match ups next round!
_Untouchable - ZaBeast : 13-6
dkmaster - rousseau72 : 10-9
Iron Maid - Kingm : 9-9, 1 TBD
Wheelwright - Pajarito : 10-9
t4mcr53s2 - Donelladan : 10-9
hjelp - Bariclaw : 6-13
Clanlord Carl - Fyrdraca : 10-9
GloriousL - kizkiz : 8-11
Not sure I'd want to be calling the winner in any of the match ups next round!
_Untouchable - ZaBeast : 13-6
dkmaster - rousseau72 : 10-9
Iron Maid - Kingm : 9-9, 1 TBD
Wheelwright - Pajarito : 10-9
t4mcr53s2 - Donelladan : 10-9
hjelp - Bariclaw : 6-13
Clanlord Carl - Fyrdraca : 10-9
GloriousL - kizkiz : 8-11

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There has not been a lot of feedback for the poly tournament. After discussing with Lindax , we are thinking of going with a straight bracket style tournament, run as an auto tournament.
128 players, seeded by score, maybe starting as a best of 11. Any thoughts. I will create the tourney, regardless of format, next week. So if discussion is needed, now is the time.
128 players, seeded by score, maybe starting as a best of 11. Any thoughts. I will create the tourney, regardless of format, next week. So if discussion is needed, now is the time.
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Might be a good ideashoop76 wrote:There has not been a lot of feedback for the poly tournament. After discussing with Lindax , we are thinking of going with a straight bracket style tournament, run as an auto tournament.
128 players, seeded by score, maybe starting as a best of 11. Any thoughts. I will create the tourney, regardless of format, next week. So if discussion is needed, now is the time.

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I prefer the variety of opponents throughout the tournament until the late rounds. Prefer to stick with the regular format.
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Is the poly tournament going to require a silver poly badge to participate like some previous tournaments? If so, I'm going to have to cram a bunch of games in.

