CONQUISTADORES 1.17

[SoN!c]

so what regions are given to players at start of game?

Oh and to help with the potential confusion on the cob & rum bonuses can replace the & with or in the box label
i.e. GOLD COBS or RUM replacing GOLD COBS & RUM

Well only a spanish fort (at random) but not Orellana (thats always neutral) - so starting positions like feudal epic map

Alternative is handing out all "2" terrs at random but i prefer the "feudal epic start" version

And it's +2 for each pair of 1 gold cob and 1 rum bottle (hence "cob AND rum"), but it's changed to "Gold Cob"

Here is the map Conquistadores 1.11B (without neutral and legend changed) in large 840x800:



and in small:




Alternative Win Con could be "grab gold continent to win"?

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1.11B Version with "gold cob & rum" in the legend:

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And Conquistadores 1.11B with alternative win con (just grab it to win):

[plurple]

Well only a spanish fort (at random) but not Orellana (thats always neutral) - so starting positions like feudal epic map

Alternative is handing out all "2" terrs at random but i prefer the "feudal epic start" version

This is doable but typically we want all new maps to have a minimum of 8 players if only those 4 territories were handed out then there would be a max of 4 player so you would need to add 3 (or 7 to make it 12 player friendly ) more castles to make it a conquest map the other way is also doable

And it's +2 for each pair of 1 gold cob and 1 rum bottle (hence "cob AND rum"), but it's changed to "Gold Cob"

ohhhhh this explains so much I had been reading it as either a pair of cobs or pair of rum not 1 of each my bad

[SoN!c]

Well only a spanish fort (at random) but not Orellana (thats always neutral) - so starting positions like feudal epic map

Alternative is handing out all "2" terrs at random but i prefer the "feudal epic start" version

This is doable but typically we want all new maps to have a minimum of 8 players if only those 4 territories were handed out then there would be a max of 4 player so you would need to add 3 (or 7 to make it 12 player friendly ) more castles to make it a conquest map the other way is also doable

And it's +2 for each pair of 1 gold cob and 1 rum bottle (hence "cob AND rum"), but it's changed to "Gold Cob"

ohhhhh this explains so much I had been reading it as either a pair of cobs or pair of rum not 1 of each my bad

A lot of maps are played 1vs1 and others are mostly 4 players so this is why this is only a 4 player map like stated from the start. This is also why the 4 conquisatadores in each corner have the colour of the 4 first players in CC (red, green, blue, yellow)

Also there are only 4 corners on the map

[plurple]

Well only a spanish fort (at random) but not Orellana (thats always neutral) - so starting positions like feudal epic map

Alternative is handing out all "2" terrs at random but i prefer the "feudal epic start" version

This is doable but typically we want all new maps to have a minimum of 8 players if only those 4 territories were handed out then there would be a max of 4 player so you would need to add 3 (or 7 to make it 12 player friendly ) more castles to make it a conquest map the other way is also doable

And it's +2 for each pair of 1 gold cob and 1 rum bottle (hence "cob AND rum"), but it's changed to "Gold Cob"

ohhhhh this explains so much I had been reading it as either a pair of cobs or pair of rum not 1 of each my bad

A lot of maps are played 1vs1 and others are mostly 4 players so this is why this is only a 4 player map like stated from the start. This is also why the 4 conquisatadores in each corner have the colour of the 4 first players in CC (red, green, blue, yellow)

Also there are only 4 corners on the map

I am clearly blind and had not seen that

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So here is CONQUISTADORES 1.12:




Changed a few positions for better balance:

First gold cob to be found from starting point is 3 terrs out for all. First bottle is 2 terrs out for all.
Second and third gold cob is 4 and 5 terrs out for all.

Second and third bottle is 3 and 4 terrs out for all.

So same balance on gold cob & rum bonusses and to reach the Orellana fort is about 10 terrs for all (9 or 10), The Eldorado temple is about the same (9 to 12).

Bombard cannon range changed to +12 terrs

Changed win con legend (the symbol sequence) into right order

here is the small version:

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CONQUISTADORES 1.13. The conditional self kill is not possible atm so it's a 400 curse penalty instead (+0 deploy)!



In Aztec mythology, Tepoztēcatl, also known as Tezcatzoncatl, is the god of pulque (a fermented beverage), drunkenness, and fertility. He is also associated with the Centzon Totochtin, a group of 400 rabbit deities representing different aspects of inebriation. There's no single "Tepoztēcatl number" in the same way there's no single number for a human being. Instead, the Aztecs used a system of "rabbits" to describe the level of intoxication, ranging from mild intoxication (25 rabbits) to complete drunkenness (400 rabbits).
Because these "Four Hundred Rabbit Gods" were conceived by the goddess Mayahuel and the god Petecatl and embody the various ways people can experience intoxication. The number 400, in their name, symbolized infinity in the Aztec numbering system.

small:

[plurple]

Conquistadores is up and testable on Beta site

Conquistadores.xml

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Conquistadores is up and testable on Beta site

Conquistadores.xml

Flawless XML as always (tested in first 4 games)

Let me play some more It's real fun this one

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1.14 Temple with a killer reset of 20 instead of 10





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[loutil]

Uku Pacha starting point is a MAJOR disadvantage. It has no easy pathway to the middle and that is the point of this map as it is drawn, get to the middle to win.

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Upon further study. Cortez has the advantage over all other starting points.

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If you wanna be first to the middle yes. However you will need a large force first to get there and then hold GC after the 20 neuts you had to take.

Log count can give a big clue to that so anybody else can move in without that 20 wall.

And Orellana fort is always neutral.

Cortez is also the legendary conquistador so getting Cortez on drop should be a bit better then getting one of the 3 "natives".

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CONQUISTADORES 1.15

Each starting point (the 4 forts in the corners) has the exact same distance to the Temple AND to the Orellana Fort!




To the El Dorado temple: 6 terrs for all (via secret underground passageway)
10 out for all via normal way

So for perfect balance on that subject, and tactical reasons, each fortress has also a secret connection -each via a differen "arm" (6 terrs out for all) directly from the fort to a jungle entrance (symbol marker). On each route 1 bottle has to be taken.


first god cob 3 terrs out, first bottle 2 terrs out for all.

Tupac, Uku Pacha, Cortez and Inca : each 6 bottles and cobs
Orellana 3
Jungle 9
Gold continent 2

So 34 bottles and cobs in total (with 13 max per player)

The El Dorado temple only connecting to GC1, GC terrs connect to all GC

GC 1 and GC 4, 5 can attack Jungle 25 and 5 (to block 2 of 3 entrances - Jungle 8 being the 'back door') - you need the temple to get in but not to get out

Route to Orellana is 9 for all:

Cortez: 9
Tupac: 9
Inca: 9
Uku Pacha: 9
(10 being orellana fort itself)

Jungle terrs 2 neuts
Gold Continent 2 neuts
Jungle entrance 5 neuts

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[plurple]

Ok I have updated map and XML to 1.15 on beta site Let me know if I made any mistakes

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CONQUISTADORES 1.16

Found some small inconsistencies with testing so here is Conquistadores 1.16:

Also GC should border the temple (so you can place your fort on the temple to block it) + cannons have +11 bombard range



1.16 can change even more after more testing 1.15 in the next 2 weeks...


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[Fuchsia tude]

Why do Jungle 22 and Jungle 26 border each other? The map lines pretty clearly suggest that they shouldn't:

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Why do Jungle 22 and Jungle 26 border each other? The map lines pretty clearly suggest that they shouldn't:

Its still the old version (1.15) of the map that is on beta to finish ongoing testing games.

Any update makes the old version broken so we wanna finish ongoing testing games first.

New version (1.16) will be uploaded in 3 weeks approx

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CONQUISTADORES 1.17

more logic numbering on some jungle terrs (and some a bit more larger in size), small change to the legend




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[plurple]

!.17 is the latest version on the beta site

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Map description:

In Conquistadores, 2–4 adventurers chart a cursed jungle from a Spanish Fort toward the mythical Temple of El Dorado, battling nature and each other.
Gather Gold and Rum resources, forge alliances, and survive the wilds—but beware greed! Hoard too many rum bottles, and the jungle’s ancient curse strikes, turning fortune to ruin. Only balance and cunning secure the golden prize.

[zipper66]

tupac 9 show rum, but has no rum. map tab show no rum for tupac 9 but rum for tupac 13. extend map list tupac having 5 rums - but not on 9 nor 13

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tupac 9 show rum, but has no rum. map tab show no rum for tupac 9 but rum for tupac 13. extend map list tupac having 5 rums - but not on 9 nor 13

You are right. Will get to that asap. Tupac terrs changed a littlebit in the last version to have equal jungle borders and overall distance.


I forgot to inform Plurple about this.

So we still have old xml on that section of the map (it affects Tupac 9 and Tupac 13 as those two terrs were altered for overal distance reasons with the changes to jungle terrs and the rum bottle switched to be on same distance as rest of the spanish forts).

You can see the little differences here (including the changes on jungle):

[zipper66]

tupac 15 attacks jungle 2,3 and 4. jungle 3 is hidden gold, jungle 4 is fools gold. I jumped to 4, had to check extend map when it came up empty. looks like the old map had jungle 4 where 3 now is.

can the list of gold and rum be, idk like alphabetical?