Polymorphic 2 Premier League (Completed)
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Re: Polymorphic 2 Premier League (FULL)
Isn't Scud the overall winner? He's got 83 points
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Can I bug you with a question?
Of all the leading players in each division what were their choices for home maps?
Cheers
Of all the leading players in each division what were their choices for home maps?
Cheers

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For Premier A - 1 Point difference and tourney will be decided in the last roundChariot of Fire wrote:Can I bug you with a question?
Of all the leading players in each division what were their choices for home maps?
Cheers
TrafalgarLaw01 - Spanish Armada
Bamage - World Cup 2014
Premier B - theyfly is leading by 7 points with 12 in play
TheflyCassanova - Conquer Rome
Nibotha - Antarctica
Premier C - SCuD steamrolled his league
SCuD - hive (Champion of his league Already)
Clanlor Carl - Second place atm but far away from SCuD - Waterloo
Premier D - Its gonna be between Devante, Avi8or and Zorro134
Devante - King's Court II
Avi8or - King's Court II
Zorro134 - Stalingrad
Btw all of those maps were also used for other players but no top of their leagues
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Thanks for that mate. It makes for interesting reading. Complex maps definitely came out on top (with the exception of Antarctica which one could say is specialised).

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I don't think Hive is that complex (not in the same way a Conquer Rome is), but it does allow you to have bad dice for a while but stay in the game. It's a good map for the favourite to grind out 90% victory rates. The two home games I lost were wild dice, and I was outdeploying even in one of those so would have turned it around for sure, but round limit just made it too little too late.Chariot of Fire wrote:Thanks for that mate. It makes for interesting reading. Complex maps definitely came out on top (with the exception of Antarctica which one could say is specialised).
Selecting a map you can be sure of a very high winning % against randoms is a crucial part.
But the big winning margin for me was, I think, due to being adaptable. If you can win 2-0 on your home maps, and put yourself on a level playing field against even the most difficult and specialist of away maps, that's the secret.
For example, Scarlet Lady chose Spanish Armada, a complex map with specialist thinking. I had never played it. So I spent some time figuring it out and ended up winning 2-0 away. This is no disrespect to Scarlet Lady, the games were evenly played IMO, and I had some good fortune. 1-1 would have been a more fair result. But most people woudln't even give themselves a chance of a 1-1 there (hence Scarlet Lady's fantastic finishing position)
If we go again and the top 5 from each league enter the premier division I may have a map rethink though

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This begs the question.
Are we getting another league? Appreciate it's a lot of work.
Are we getting another league? Appreciate it's a lot of work.

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Hi mate.
Yeah, for sure it helps to be a good cross-mapper when it comes to playing the away games. I knew Spanish Armada and rated myself on it (in terms of what to do) but it only takes a couple of rounds of shit dice while the log shows your opponent blasting thru neuts (T1 to T5 effectively) and you know your goose is cooked when they're receiving 20+ more troops per turn than you are. In essence it's a conquest map at first, blasting thru all the neuts, then an element of luck choosing the right target once a ship is loaded. Don't care for it too much but do enjoy the history lesson it's given me
I went for a simple map that has a tactical quirk - USApocalypse - because I didn't want to get bogged down with a load of large complex maps when four games were supposed to come out every fortnight so went for something that can be finished quickly (10-4 stats which I'm OK with).
In hindsight I'd have gone for Stalingrad probably. 14 home games in 31 weeks would have been very manageable, even with all that Armada away bollocks.
Yeah, for sure it helps to be a good cross-mapper when it comes to playing the away games. I knew Spanish Armada and rated myself on it (in terms of what to do) but it only takes a couple of rounds of shit dice while the log shows your opponent blasting thru neuts (T1 to T5 effectively) and you know your goose is cooked when they're receiving 20+ more troops per turn than you are. In essence it's a conquest map at first, blasting thru all the neuts, then an element of luck choosing the right target once a ship is loaded. Don't care for it too much but do enjoy the history lesson it's given me
I went for a simple map that has a tactical quirk - USApocalypse - because I didn't want to get bogged down with a load of large complex maps when four games were supposed to come out every fortnight so went for something that can be finished quickly (10-4 stats which I'm OK with).
In hindsight I'd have gone for Stalingrad probably. 14 home games in 31 weeks would have been very manageable, even with all that Armada away bollocks.

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Re: Polymorphic 2 Premier League (FULL)
yeah, for Hive I felt pretty confident after a round or two usually. Then just played without too much thought needed. A couple of mistakes wouldn't be likely to get rid of a chunky advantage. But.... the bloody clearing up. JFC.Chariot of Fire wrote:Hi mate.
Yeah, for sure it helps to be a good cross-mapper when it comes to playing the away games. I knew Spanish Armada and rated myself on it (in terms of what to do) but it only takes a couple of rounds of shit dice while the log shows your opponent blasting thru neuts (T1 to T5 effectively) and you know your goose is cooked when they're receiving 20+ more troops per turn than you are. In essence it's a conquest map at first, blasting thru all the neuts, then an element of luck choosing the right target once a ship is loaded. Don't care for it too much but do enjoy the history lesson it's given me![]()
I went for a simple map that has a tactical quirk - USApocalypse - because I didn't want to get bogged down with a load of large complex maps when four games were supposed to come out every fortnight so went for something that can be finished quickly (10-4 stats which I'm OK with).
In hindsight I'd have gone for Stalingrad probably. 14 home games in 31 weeks would have been very manageable, even with all that Armada away bollocks.
Against at least a couple of people, who seemed intent on fighting back til the end, I basically just played a bit randomly and quickly and waited for the round limit.
Not my job to use brain power to end the games quickly if they want to drag it out!

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Yes, we are. I'm looking for peple that are willing to halp run a second season. Top 4 or 5 of each league will go in the Premier league, and so on for the next leagues and so promotions and demotions. Congrats on Winning your league. All other leagues will de decided in the last fixture coming this week.SCuD. wrote:This begs the question.
Are we getting another league? Appreciate it's a lot of work.
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I'd be happy to help with game creationTrafalgarLaw01 wrote:Yes, we are. I'm looking for peple that are willing to halp run a second season. Top 4 or 5 of each league will go in the Premier league, and so on for the next leagues and so promotions and demotions. Congrats on Winning your league. All other leagues will de decided in the last fixture coming this week.SCuD. wrote:This begs the question.
Are we getting another league? Appreciate it's a lot of work.
Re: Polymorphic 2 Premier League (FULL)
Awesome news.TrafalgarLaw01 wrote:Yes, we are. I'm looking for peple that are willing to halp run a second season. Top 4 or 5 of each league will go in the Premier league, and so on for the next leagues and so promotions and demotions. Congrats on Winning your league. All other leagues will de decided in the last fixture coming this week.SCuD. wrote:This begs the question.
Are we getting another league? Appreciate it's a lot of work.
I'd offer to help, but I'm unreliable and generally useless at that sort of thing. I'm good at excel though if you want help with spreadsheets!
BTW, something that would be cool would be to have home and away tables too. So we can delve a bit more in to seeing how each person is doing. Was it just an excellent home map choice, or are they delivery really well away?

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I can help with scoring if wanted?TrafalgarLaw01 wrote:Yes, we are. I'm looking for peple that are willing to halp run a second season. Top 4 or 5 of each league will go in the Premier league, and so on for the next leagues and so promotions and demotions. Congrats on Winning your league. All other leagues will de decided in the last fixture coming this week.SCuD. wrote:This begs the question.
Are we getting another league? Appreciate it's a lot of work.
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Thank you everyone for your messages. I updated the scores so they are clearer and easier to extract info from them.
I'll send a PM everyone to have some feedback and structure the next season the best way possible.
Also Big thanks to Groovysmurf who helped em creat games for the alst rounds of the toruney.
So Final Fixture incoming these days. Considerign that the final place in the table determines next season seeding, finishng top 4 or top 5 might be important in order to earn a spot in premeir League.
Premier A: big fight between Traf and Bamage for the top spot just 1 point difference before the last round.
Traf - 71p (Spanish Armada)
Bamage - 70p (2014 World Cup)
josko - 64p (France)
ltrain - 63p (Salem's Switch)
lexie 58p (Conquer Rome)
eric - 57p (Spanish Armada)
Premeir B: Also intense fight between Theflycassanova and Nibotha 1 point difference as well
Thefly - 76p (Conquer Rome)
nibotha - 75p (Antarctica)
luxbox - 59p (City mogul)
pixar - 59p (Feudal War)
swimmerdude - 56p (He replaced Denise mid tourney she had Forbidden City and he took with clandemonium)
lt.futt 56p (Replaced Shoe mid tourney. Shoe had Gallipoli and futt Feudal Epic)
Premier C - As mentioned before Scud steamrolled and is Champion already.
ScuD - 87p (Hive) - Final Score
Clanlord Carl - 56p (Waterloo)
aaronvollrath - 54p (Fractured China)
All black Rugby - 54p (Rail South America)
t4mcr53 - 53p (Thysenial)
Scarlet Lady - 53p (Spanish Armada)
Premeir D: It's gonna be between Avi8r and Devante but they have still to finish games form R18, but maybe frox could do a surprise
Avi8or - 64p 33m (King's Court II)
Devante - 63p 32m (King's Court II)
Zorro134 - 60p 34m (Stalingrad)
frox333 - 57p 32m (Conquer Rome)
Dusty - 55p 33m (Stalingrad)
i-andrei - 52p 33m (2014 World Cup)
I'll send a PM everyone to have some feedback and structure the next season the best way possible.
Also Big thanks to Groovysmurf who helped em creat games for the alst rounds of the toruney.
So Final Fixture incoming these days. Considerign that the final place in the table determines next season seeding, finishng top 4 or top 5 might be important in order to earn a spot in premeir League.
Premier A: big fight between Traf and Bamage for the top spot just 1 point difference before the last round.
Traf - 71p (Spanish Armada)
Bamage - 70p (2014 World Cup)
josko - 64p (France)
ltrain - 63p (Salem's Switch)
lexie 58p (Conquer Rome)
eric - 57p (Spanish Armada)
Premeir B: Also intense fight between Theflycassanova and Nibotha 1 point difference as well
Thefly - 76p (Conquer Rome)
nibotha - 75p (Antarctica)
luxbox - 59p (City mogul)
pixar - 59p (Feudal War)
swimmerdude - 56p (He replaced Denise mid tourney she had Forbidden City and he took with clandemonium)
lt.futt 56p (Replaced Shoe mid tourney. Shoe had Gallipoli and futt Feudal Epic)
Premier C - As mentioned before Scud steamrolled and is Champion already.
ScuD - 87p (Hive) - Final Score
Clanlord Carl - 56p (Waterloo)
aaronvollrath - 54p (Fractured China)
All black Rugby - 54p (Rail South America)
t4mcr53 - 53p (Thysenial)
Scarlet Lady - 53p (Spanish Armada)
Premeir D: It's gonna be between Avi8r and Devante but they have still to finish games form R18, but maybe frox could do a surprise
Avi8or - 64p 33m (King's Court II)
Devante - 63p 32m (King's Court II)
Zorro134 - 60p 34m (Stalingrad)
frox333 - 57p 32m (Conquer Rome)
Dusty - 55p 33m (Stalingrad)
i-andrei - 52p 33m (2014 World Cup)
Re: Polymorphic 2 Premier League (FULL)
I am giving nickname to new ScuD as FRAuD, common he comes to 87 points, 16 more than anyone else while playing my copywriting map (Hive), how is that theoretically possible?
If I challenge that FRAuD on Hive, I will wipe the floor with him.
I am even suspicious that he is multi of narutoserigala, when you compare years when narutoserigala was active, in those years FRAuD was inactive, and vice versa.
Can anyone do factual multi check of FRAuD?

If I challenge that FRAuD on Hive, I will wipe the floor with him.
I am even suspicious that he is multi of narutoserigala, when you compare years when narutoserigala was active, in those years FRAuD was inactive, and vice versa.
Can anyone do factual multi check of FRAuD?

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Ah if only that were true Josko. Unfortunately (or fortunately really) I know Scud personally and he's a bit of a maths whizz. Hive is all about mathematical logic which is why both you and he excel on that map 

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Scud is a real top level player on all maps. Naruto is / was not even good on all maps -So "multi's" is quite funny and think this is supposed to be a joke
But Josko vs Scud on hive : id like to see who wins. They are the 2 best on that hive thing.

But Josko vs Scud on hive : id like to see who wins. They are the 2 best on that hive thing.

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I am up for tryout.SoN!c wrote:Scud is a real top level player on all maps. Naruto is / was not even good on all maps -So "multi's" is quite funny and think this is supposed to be a joke![]()
But Josko vs Scud on hive : id like to see who wins. They are the 2 best on that hive thing.![]()
His conquering this tourney on my copywriting map would be the same as Chariot of Fire coming to Croatia and saying that he is more Croat than me.

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To me nasmijalo


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Re: Polymorphic 2 Premier League (FULL)
Sorry I only check the forums about once every... 5 months
and even then I'll only check circa one thread, so I missed all this.
What is a copywriting map? Do you mean, you made it your own so much with so many victories that it sort of became yours?
Well. Well... If I remember you quite like unlimited forts on such maps? Or that may have been a coincidence with games I saw you play. I have no idea, I feel fine playing unlimited though, but that's a hell of a lot of work of an evening to play those first few turns!
Would I give you a few games of it? Sure, if you want, we can have a bash
I don't mind what settings too much, you pick!
On if I am narutoserigala. Well, that is, I presume, meant as something of a complimentary joke! So I'll say thanks
Although I would add that I wouldn't put him in the top echelon of players in a wide ranging cross map kinda scenario! He just figured out how to slap (exploit?) on Das Schloss, and just kept killing noobs to eek out tiny amounts of points. It really was a 0% chance he could lose against someone who didn't know the various tricks involved. I'm sure lots of us would be 50/50 likelihood to win against him on Das Schloss now, and he'd get spanked on everything else. Still an interesting character!
I'm more like you josko, I kinda go AWOL a bit
and don't care too much for my overall score! Hence I've never really had a high score. As soon as I get up there I disappear for a while, and what ranking I didn't lose playing chefs in dice fortune heavy tournaments I lose to missing turns
Anyway, if you want to have a couple of games on Hive, I'm here for it. Or any other map really. I'm not fussy!
What is a copywriting map? Do you mean, you made it your own so much with so many victories that it sort of became yours?
Well. Well... If I remember you quite like unlimited forts on such maps? Or that may have been a coincidence with games I saw you play. I have no idea, I feel fine playing unlimited though, but that's a hell of a lot of work of an evening to play those first few turns!
Would I give you a few games of it? Sure, if you want, we can have a bash
On if I am narutoserigala. Well, that is, I presume, meant as something of a complimentary joke! So I'll say thanks
I'm more like you josko, I kinda go AWOL a bit
Anyway, if you want to have a couple of games on Hive, I'm here for it. Or any other map really. I'm not fussy!

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Re: Polymorphic 2 Premier League (FULL)
7 points more... which is certainly not unexpected from a great all-round player like .SCuD. imhojosko.ri wrote:I am giving nickname to new ScuD as FRAuD, common he comes to 87 points, 16 more than anyone else while playing my copywriting map (Hive), how is that theoretically possible?
If I challenge that FRAuD on Hive, I will wipe the floor with him.
I am even suspicious that he is multi of narutoserigala, when you compare years when narutoserigala was active, in those years FRAuD was inactive, and vice versa.
Can anyone do factual multi check of FRAuD?
But, the more I re-read this, the more I realize Josko is simply taking the piss as it were
Congrats .SCuD. on the top score and what will be the top position in the next league!
Re: Polymorphic 2 Premier League (FULL)
sure, i will suggest you the concept in upcoming days.SCuD. wrote:Sorry I only check the forums about once every... 5 monthsand even then I'll only check circa one thread, so I missed all this.
What is a copywriting map? Do you mean, you made it your own so much with so many victories that it sort of became yours?
Well. Well... If I remember you quite like unlimited forts on such maps? Or that may have been a coincidence with games I saw you play. I have no idea, I feel fine playing unlimited though, but that's a hell of a lot of work of an evening to play those first few turns!
Would I give you a few games of it? Sure, if you want, we can have a bashI don't mind what settings too much, you pick!
On if I am narutoserigala. Well, that is, I presume, meant as something of a complimentary joke! So I'll say thanksAlthough I would add that I wouldn't put him in the top echelon of players in a wide ranging cross map kinda scenario! He just figured out how to slap (exploit?) on Das Schloss, and just kept killing noobs to eek out tiny amounts of points. It really was a 0% chance he could lose against someone who didn't know the various tricks involved. I'm sure lots of us would be 50/50 likelihood to win against him on Das Schloss now, and he'd get spanked on everything else. Still an interesting character!
I'm more like you josko, I kinda go AWOL a bitand don't care too much for my overall score! Hence I've never really had a high score. As soon as I get up there I disappear for a while, and what ranking I didn't lose playing chefs in dice fortune heavy tournaments I lose to missing turns
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Anyway, if you want to have a couple of games on Hive, I'm here for it. Or any other map really. I'm not fussy!

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Re: Polymorphic 2 Premier League (FULL)
Just a couple of games left but all champions and top places in each league are decided.
Premier A
Champion: TrafalgarLaw01 - 75p
Runner-up: Bamage - 74p
3rd place: josko.ri - 65p
4rth place: Ltrain - 64p
Premier B
Champion: Theflycassanova - 80p
Runner-up: Nibotha - 79p
3rd place: Luxbock - 63p
4rth place: Swimmerdude99 - 60p
Premier C
Champion: .SCuD. - 87p
Runner-up: Clanlord Carl - 60p
3rd place: All Black Rugby - 60p
4rth place: t4mcr53s2 - 59p
Premier A
Champion: Devante - 70p
Runner-up: Avi8or - 69p
3rd place: Zorro134 - 66p
4rth place: Frox333 - 62p
Congrats to everyone and thanks for participating. Updates on new season coming soon
Premier A
Champion: TrafalgarLaw01 - 75p
Runner-up: Bamage - 74p
3rd place: josko.ri - 65p
4rth place: Ltrain - 64p
Premier B
Champion: Theflycassanova - 80p
Runner-up: Nibotha - 79p
3rd place: Luxbock - 63p
4rth place: Swimmerdude99 - 60p
Premier C
Champion: .SCuD. - 87p
Runner-up: Clanlord Carl - 60p
3rd place: All Black Rugby - 60p
4rth place: t4mcr53s2 - 59p
Premier A
Champion: Devante - 70p
Runner-up: Avi8or - 69p
3rd place: Zorro134 - 66p
4rth place: Frox333 - 62p
Congrats to everyone and thanks for participating. Updates on new season coming soon
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Thx Traf for organisingTrafalgarLaw01 wrote:Just a couple of games left but all champions and top places in each league are decided.
Premier A
Champion: TrafalgarLaw01 - 75p
Runner-up: Bamage - 74p
3rd place: josko.ri - 65p
4rth place: Ltrain - 64p
Premier B
Champion: Theflycassanova - 80p
Runner-up: Nibotha - 79p
3rd place: Luxbock - 63p
4rth place: Swimmerdude99 - 60p
Premier C
Champion: .SCuD. - 87p
Runner-up: Clanlord Carl - 60p
3rd place: All Black Rugby - 60p
4rth place: t4mcr53s2 - 64p
Premier A
Champion: Devante - 70p
Runner-up: Avi8or - 69p
3rd place: Zorro134 - 66p
4rth place: Frox333 - 62p
Congrats to everyone and thanks for participating. Updates on new season coming soon

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Hear hear! Big job that, well done Traf.
And congrats to all those that made the grade, the list of names comes as no surprise at all (well, josko is a bit of an anomaly but we'll let that slide)

And congrats to all those that made the grade, the list of names comes as no surprise at all (well, josko is a bit of an anomaly but we'll let that slide)

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