Thing s I Don't Like About Trump

[saxitoxin]

For the record, I'm not a Trump "fan" and there's a growing list of things I dislike about the new Administration. I still find it vastly preferable to Biden, however. I will let you know when the scales tip.

Here's my running list. I'll add to it.

1. The Gaza plan

2. Steven Miller (he screams through all his interviews)

3. Elon Musk (conman -- also, can he get his kid a babysitter instead of bringing him with him everywhere?)

4. The lunatics in the House GOP are now more crazy than the lunatics in the House Democrats. When Gaetz was the chief whacko he enforced a certain ceiling of lunacy among the backbenchers. Now it's every man for himself. Nancy Mace is talking about her sex life on the House floor. Anna Paulina Luna is starting a committee to investigate everything from UFOs to the Loch Ness Monster, etc.

5. Arrest of Mahmoud Khalil (added 3/10)

6. Threatened to primary Thomas Massie (added 3/11)

7. Resume Biden attacks on Yemen (added 3/18)

8. Incompetent Method of Shrinking Workforce Size Leads to More Costs than Savings (added 3/18)

[2dimes]

The list started with negative things but ended..

starting a committee to investigate everything from UFOs to the Loch Ness Monster, etc.

That sounds pretty fun, unless they're just in an office and not going out to the field to take a look.

[saxitoxin]

The list started with negative things but ended..

starting a committee to investigate everything from UFOs to the Loch Ness Monster, etc.

That sounds pretty fun, unless they're just in an office and not going out to the field to take a look.

I'm 99% sure they're doing it to nationalize their campaign fundraising. These are a handful of congressmen like Boebert who are social media famous but have no actual power. So they can't get PAC money and they don't raise much money from district donors. By putting together a Committee of Every Crazy Thing they can attract donors from across the nation who are interested in said crazy things.

This is the stated remit of the committee:
1- UFOs
2- JFK Assassination
3- Jeffrey Epstein's suicide
4- MLK Assassination
5- "The 9/11 Files" (not sure what that one is)

[2dimes]

That list is not as entertaining as I was hoping. Those are probably pretty popular but I wanted to see things like Bat Boy, the Jersey devil and big foot..

[jusplay4fun]

This list will grow, and I will likely add to the list of Thing s.

Keep up the good work, Saxi. We need Thing s to ponder to keep our brains active.

Re: Thing s I Don't Like About Trump

[HitRed]

I’ll get back to you, Gene.

[HitRed]

[Pack Rat]

Racism

[DoomYoshi]

I'm surprised the sanctions on ICC didn't make your list. It's my personal favorite Trump action though.

I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, find that the International Criminal Court (ICC), as established by the Rome Statute, has engaged in illegitimate and baseless actions targeting America and our close ally Israel.

Spoiler

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.) (NEA), section 212(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (8 U.S.C. 1182(f)), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code, I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, find that the International Criminal Court (ICC), as established by the Rome Statute, has engaged in illegitimate and baseless actions targeting America and our close ally Israel. The ICC has, without a legitimate basis, asserted jurisdiction over and opened preliminary investigations concerning personnel of the United States and certain of its allies, including Israel, and has further abused its power by issuing baseless arrest warrants targeting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Former Minister of Defense Yoav Gallant. The ICC has no jurisdiction over the United States or Israel, as neither country is party to the Rome Statute or a member of the ICC. Neither country has ever recognized the ICC’s jurisdiction, and both nations are thriving democracies with militaries that strictly adhere to the laws of war. The ICC’s recent actions against Israel and the United States set a dangerous precedent, directly endangering current and former United States personnel, including active service members of the Armed Forces, by exposing them to harassment, abuse, and possible arrest. This malign conduct in turn threatens to infringe upon the sovereignty of the United States and undermines the critical national security and foreign policy work of the United States Government and our allies, including Israel. Furthermore, in 2002, the Congress enacted the American Servicemembers’ Protection Act of 2002 (22 U.S.C. 7421 et seq.) to protect United States military personnel, United States officials, and officials and military personnel of certain allied countries against criminal prosecution by an international criminal court to which the United States is not party, stating, “In addition to exposing members of the Armed Forces of the United States to the risk of international criminal prosecution, the Rome Statute creates a risk that the President and other senior elected and appointed officials of the United States Government may be prosecuted by the International Criminal Court.” (22 U.S.C. 7421(9)). The United States unequivocally opposes and expects our allies to oppose any ICC actions against the United States, Israel, or any other ally of the United States that has not consented to ICC jurisdiction. The United States remains committed to accountability and to the peaceful cultivation of international order, but the ICC and parties to the Rome Statute must respect the decisions of the United States and other countries not to subject their personnel to the ICC’s jurisdiction, consistent with their respective sovereign prerogatives. The United States will impose tangible and significant consequences on those responsible for the ICC’s transgressions, some of which may include the blocking of property and assets, as well as the suspension of entry into the United States of ICC officials, employees, and agents, as well as their immediate family members, as their entry into our Nation would be detrimental to the interests of the United States. I therefore determine that any effort by the ICC to investigate, arrest, detain, or prosecute protected persons, as defined in section 8(d) of this order, constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States, and I hereby declare a national emergency to address that threat. I hereby determine and order: Section 1. (a) All property and interests in property that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of any United States person, of the following persons are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported, withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in: (i) the person listed in the Annex to this order; and (ii) any foreign person determined by the Secretary of State, in consultation with the Secretary of the Treasury and the Attorney General: (A) to have directly engaged in any effort by the ICC to investigate, arrest, detain, or prosecute a protected person without consent of that person’s country of nationality; (B) to have materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, or technological support for, or goods or services to or in support of, any activity in subsection (a)(ii)(A) of this section or any person whose property or interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; or (C) to be owned or controlled by, or to have acted or purported to act for or on behalf of, directly or indirectly, any person whose property or interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order. (b) The prohibitions in subsection (a) of this section apply except to the extent provided by statutes, or in regulations, orders, directives, or licenses that may be issued pursuant to this order, and notwithstanding any contract entered into or any license or permit granted before the date of this order. Sec. 2. I hereby determine that the making of donations of the types of articles specified in section 203(b)(2) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1702(b)(2)) by, to, or for the benefit of any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to section 1 of this order would seriously impair my ability to address the national emergency declared in this order, and I hereby prohibit such donations as provided by section 1 of this order. Sec. 3. The prohibitions in section 1(a) of this order include: (a) the making of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services by, to, or for the benefit of any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to section 1 of this order; and (b) the receipt of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services from any such person. Sec. 4. The unrestricted immigrant and nonimmigrant entry into the United States of aliens determined to meet one or more of the criteria in section 1 of this order, as well as immediate family members of such aliens, or aliens determined by the Secretary of State to be employed by, or acting as an agent of, the ICC, would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, and the entry of such persons into the United States, as immigrants or nonimmigrants, is hereby suspended, except where the Secretary of State determines that the entry of the person into the United States would not be contrary to the interests of the United States, including when the Secretary of State so determines, based on a recommendation of the Attorney General, that the person’s entry would further important United States law enforcement objectives. In exercising this responsibility, the Secretary of State shall consult with the Secretary of Homeland Security on matters related to admissibility or inadmissibility within the authority of the Secretary of Homeland Security. Such persons shall be treated as persons covered by section 1 of Proclamation 8693 of July 24, 2011 (Suspension of Entry of Aliens Subject to United Nations Security Council Travel Bans and International Emergency Economic Powers Act Sanctions). The Secretary of State shall have the responsibility for implementing this section pursuant to such conditions and procedures as the Secretary of State has established or may establish pursuant to Proclamation 8693. Sec. 5. Within 60 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State, shall submit to the President a report on additional persons that should be included within the scope of section 1 of this order. Sec. 6. (a) Any transaction that evades or avoids, has the purpose of evading or avoiding, causes a violation of, or attempts to violate any of the prohibitions set forth in this order is prohibited. (b) Any conspiracy formed to violate any of the prohibitions set forth in this order is prohibited. Sec. 7. Nothing in this order shall prohibit transactions for the conduct of the official business of the Federal Government by employees, grantees, or contractors thereof. Sec. 8. For the purposes of this order: (a) the term “person” means an individual or entity; (b) the term “entity” means a government or instrumentality of such government, partnership, association, trust, joint venture, corporation, group, subgroup, or other organization; (c) the term “United States person” means any United States citizen, permanent resident alien, entity organized under the laws of the United States or any jurisdiction within the United States (including a foreign branch, subsidiary, or employee of such entity), or any person lawfully in the United States; (d) the term “protected person” means: (i) any United States person, unless the United States provides formal consent to ICC jurisdiction over that person or becomes a state party to the Rome Statute, including: (A) current or former members of the Armed Forces of the United States; (B) current or former elected or appointed officials of the United States Government; and (C) any other person currently or formerly employed by or working on behalf of the United States Government; and (ii) any foreign person that is a citizen or lawful resident of an ally of the United States that has not consented to ICC jurisdiction over that person or is not a state party to the Rome Statute, including: (A) current or former members of the armed forces of such ally of the United States; (B) current or former elected or appointed government officials of such ally of the United States; and (C) any other person currently or formerly employed by or working on behalf of such a government; (e) the term “ally of the United States” means: (i) a government of a member country of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization; or (ii) a government of a “major non-NATO ally,” as that term is defined by section 2013(7) of the American Servicemembers’ Protection Act of 2002 (22 U.S.C. 7432(7)); (f) the term “immediate family member” means a spouse or child; (g) the term “alien” has the meanings given to the term in section 101(a)(3) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(3)); and (h) the term “foreign person” means a person that is not a United States person. Sec. 9. For those persons whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order who might have a constitutional presence in the United States, I find that because of the ability to transfer funds or other assets instantaneously, prior notice to such persons of measures to be taken pursuant to section 1 of this order would render those measures ineffectual. I therefore determine that for these measures to be effective in addressing the national emergency declared in this order, there need be no prior notice of a listing or determination made pursuant to section 1 of this order. Sec. 10. The Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State, is hereby authorized to take such actions, including adopting rules and regulations, and to employ all powers granted to the President by IEEPA as may be necessary to implement this order. The Secretary of the Treasury may, consistent with applicable law, redelegate any of these functions within the Department of the Treasury. All executive departments and agencies of the United States shall take all appropriate measures within their authority to implement this order. Sec. 11. The Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State, is hereby authorized to submit recurring and final reports to the Congress on the national emergency declared in this order, consistent with section 401(c) of the NEA (50 U.S.C. 1641(c)) and section 204(c) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1703(c)). Sec. 12. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect: (i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or (ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals. (b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations. (c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

[HitRed]

Paper straws are terrible

[ConfederateSS]

-------I down like an attack on American History, or any History....... Tearing down statues.... Remember when San Francisco was renaming Schools....Or The Democrats renaming stuff...
--------- It goes for TRUMP as well....."F" him.....The Gulf of Mexico is the Gulf of Mexico period... TRUMP can call it a puddle if he wants...........
-----------THE GULF OF MEXICO, WILL ALWAYS BE THE GULF OF MEXICO .......
----------- What's next???.... TRUMP will try and rename....The MOON.......VERY NORTH USA... ......I'll look it up.....Is the United States of America....The only one to land on The MOON???...If so, TRUMP might get away with it....When America lands on Mars, Maralago 2......Come on Science community.... Although...Just like The Gulf of Mexico, is The Gulf of Mexico.....
----------- Pluto is a Planet....Maybe I should right TRUMP a letter......Out of the 9 Planets.... Guess which one was founded by an American....You guessed it....Pluto....Out of 10,000 Science Community Members....Only 189 voted on Pluto...to be ex...planted.....Even George Bush jr....Said.... Pluto is a Planet.......If TRUMP says it.... Pluto will be again in the Science Community eyes...A Planet founded by an American.... America 1st in the Solar System..... TRUMP probably doesn't know about the America snub...By the Science Community......But Really....10,000, only 189 voted...... PLUTO fans need their own January 6th... ...Pluto... Pluto... Forever........ ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[jusplay4fun]

The effort to demote Pluto from a PLANET to a dwarf planet was led by an American, Mike Brown. This issue was fiercely debated by the Scientists in the International Astronomical Union (IAU) who study these celestial bodies.

February 6, 2019
CLEMSON, South Carolina — August 24, 2006, was a day of infamy for those who grew up having learned that a far-out icy body in the solar system – Pluto – was the ninth and final planet in our solar system. It was on this day that the International Astronomical Union (IAU) voted to demote Pluto from “planet” to “dwarf planet,” and the scientist who incited that change is coming to Clemson to speak about it.

Mike Brown, the Rosenberg Professor of Planetary Astronomy at the California Institute of Technology, will be visiting Clemson University on Feb. 21 as part of the TIGERS ADVANCE Distinguished Speaker Series. Brown’s lecture, “Planet 9 from Outer Space,” will chronicle how his team’s discoveries led to the demotion of Pluto and the search for a new Planet 9.

Brown’s research specializes in the study of bodies at the edge of the solar system and it’s this line of inquiry that called into question, 14 years ago, how Pluto should be classified.

https://news.clemson.edu/the-scientist- ... o-clemson/

See also:

https://neildegrassetyson.com/essays/20 ... s-requiem/

https://www.astronomy.com/science/its-o ... tes-pluto/

In 2006 the International Astronomical Union (IAU) demoted the much-loved Pluto from its position as the ninth planet from the Sun to one of five “dwarf planets.” The IAU had likely not anticipated the widespread outrage that followed the change in the solar system’s lineup. When the announcement was made (and even over 10 years later), people around the world objected to the planet’s demotion on principle, saying that it altered tradition and history, rather than engaging with the scientific reasoning. So, what was the IAU’s reason for demoting Pluto when it did? Why is Pluto no longer a planet?

The main event of the 2006 General Assembly of the IAU, the proposal that would come to demote Pluto, was a defining moment for the rest of the solar system as well. Fiercely debated by the members of the union, the resolution that was passed officially defined the term planet. What was once a loose word used to describe a large object within the solar system was now specific: planets are celestial objects large enough to be made rounded by their gravitational orbit around the Sun and to have shooed away neighboring planetary objects and debris. Pluto is now classified as a dwarf planet because, while it is large enough to have become spherical, it is not big enough to exert its orbital dominance and clear the neighborhood surrounding its orbit.

https://www.britannica.com/story/why-is ... r-a-planet

[ConfederateSS]

---------Who cares about some egg head, he can say what ever the hell he wants...Pull up...a bunch more crap........The fact is An American founded Pluto period.....Just as stupid for an egg head to kick Pluto out...As TRUMP to call The Gulf something else..... Jp4fun.....Who cares about the articles, debates.....The fact is....10,000 could have voted....But only 189 did.....So much for the Science Community....There as bad as Democrats, Liberals....... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[jusplay4fun]

That sounds like sour grapes, ConfedSS.

Nothing is constant, except change.

Heraclitus (c. 535 BC)

Did Heraclitus look at Planets to deduce this fundamental factor of Life? No, he merely pondered what happens when you put your foot in a stream.

[ConfederateSS]

------Look at it this way...2 times...20th and 21st Century A.D..thinking...
---------- The American who found Pluto was just telling what he saw...That was that...In the 1930's A.D...He wasn't seeking fame...
--------- By the 21st Century A.D...Liberals have brainwashed washed People for over 6 decades....That person just wanted to create his opinion...To sell books... Lectures...etc...
---------- A Republican and a Libertarian can discuss things...They might disagree with...But will hear each other...
--------- A Democratic Liberal...Will only hear or say Their Beliefs....Their way...The Only Way...They will not listen to others...Force their beliefs down everyone's throats...
--------- Most if not all of the Scientific Community in the 21st Century A.D...Are Brainwashed Liberals...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[Pack Rat]

Weaponization of the Department of Justice

[Pack Rat]

Attacking our NATO allies

Rewarding Putin for Crimes against Humanity in Ukraine

[jusplay4fun]

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--------- Most if not all of the Scientific Community in the 21st Century A.D...Are Brainwashed Liberals...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

As one member of the Scientific Community, I am not one of those Brainwashed Liberals.

Again, ConfedSS is prone to hyperbole, like his buddy Saxi and that pee-rat.

[Pack Rat]

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--------- Most if not all of the Scientific Community in the 21st Century A.D...Are Brainwashed Liberals...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

As one member of the Scientific Community, I am not one of those Brainwashed Liberals.

Again, ConfedSS is prone to hyperbole, like his buddy Saxi and that pee-rat.

To be part of the scientific community, you would need to be rational, believe in facts, work well with others and have creative thinking.

I don't see how you fit in any community, except for some FASCIST CULT FOLLOWING CLUB. Or, a religious cult that preaches that Jesus was wrong and we have to go back to the good Ole days of the Old Testament.

[jusplay4fun]

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--------- Most if not all of the Scientific Community in the 21st Century A.D...Are Brainwashed Liberals...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

As one member of the Scientific Community, I am not one of those Brainwashed Liberals.

Again, ConfedSS is prone to hyperbole, like his buddy Saxi and that pee-rat.

To be part of the scientific community, you would need to be rational, believe in facts, work well with others and have creative thinking.

I don't see how you fit in any community, except for some FASCIST CULT FOLLOWING CLUB. Or, a religious cult that preaches that Jesus was wrong and we have to go back to the good Ole days of the Old Testament.

Stop with the SILLY ad hominem attacks, pack rat. You continue to show your IGNORANCE of the facts. You consistently show that you are not articulate and express yourself to most of us here as a silly little and angry man. You continue to post FALSEHOODS and LIES about me. You do not know me, as I have said repeatedly. I know you to be 3 time divorced LOSER.

by Pack Rat on Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:34 am

Fix your fukn poll! What about having been remarried 3 times, divorced 3 times and being single now,

I doubt that your really grasp Science. On the other hand, I am rational, believe in facts, work well with others and do think creatively. My career demonstates all those traits to those who know me. And I have been married ONCE, happily, for over 42 years. I have been a member of the SAME established Church ALL my life and the same local church for over 56 years. It does not preach that Jesus was wrong and [that] we have to go back to the good Ole days of the Old Testament. My Church protested against fascism. My Church works to protect and help the orphan, the widow, the sick, and those who are marginalized. I help feed the needy and hungry in our local community. I have yet to hear of any of your altuism or your civic involvement. You are likely an egotist and narcissist, as all your traits here in this Forum clearly demonstrate.

You just WISH that you had me figured out or that I meet your false narrative. I usually ignore your crap and your silly attempts to insult me, but your inane post deserves a clear, cogent, and vociferous refutation.

[Pack Rat]

It's the internet and YOU can be anything you want to be here. YOU can vomit whatever YOU want and tell us that you are some super Christian.

Your Cult following of Trump explains everything YOU are and what YOU are not.

Trump and his fascists (includes Elon Musk) are dismantling our government, so it better mirrors in Trump and Musk's image. Heck, the sledge hammering put our Nuclear stockpile at risk!

https://share.newsbreak.com/bj4o549s

For someone who claims to be part of the science community, goes to church as a very active participant and feeds, clothes the poor and hungry AND is a teacher, professor and no doubt has a Doctorate in everything....you have a lot of free time to spout your hate and hypocritical judgemental of others who do not agree with your self-serving beliefs.

Spoiler

[b]You are a fake Christian, jusplaywithnickels[/b]

[saxitoxin]

Attacking our NATO allies

Rewarding Putin for Crimes against Humanity in Ukraine

No, I'm good with those.

[saxitoxin]

For the record, I'm not a Trump "fan" and there's a growing list of things I dislike about the new Administration. I still find it vastly preferable to Biden, however. I will let you know when the scales tip.

Here's my running list. I'll add to it.

1. The Gaza plan

2. Steven Miller (he screams through all his interviews)

3. Elon Musk (conman -- also, can he get his kid a babysitter instead of bringing him with him everywhere?)

4. The lunatics in the House GOP are now more crazy than the lunatics in the House Democrats. When Gaetz was the chief whacko he enforced a certain ceiling of lunacy among the backbenchers. Now it's every man for himself. Nancy Mace is talking about her sex life on the House floor. Anna Paulina Luna is starting a committee to investigate everything from UFOs to the Loch Ness Monster, etc.

5. Ban on the AP for using the old name for the Gulf of America ... the White House is entitled to let whomever it wants into press conferences, but once admission is granted revocation must be for reasons that are content neutral. This will undoubtedly get enjoined by a court so the whole thing just seems like a waste of time.

6. The workforce reduction is good, and needs to occur rapidly as part of the Shock and Awe strategy, but some elements seem to be happening in a reckless and haphazard way (due largely to Elon's involvement). Case in point.

7. Holding Eric Adams hostage by conditionally dismissing the criminal charges against him -- with the potential they could be refiled at any moment if he defies the White House -- to essentially turn the government of NYC into a Trump puppet regime is hilariously brilliant. That said, coming right out and all but saying this is why you're doing it seems like a bad strategy since it gives Hochul runway to remove him now.

[saxitoxin]

This isn't really a dislike, more a concern. This person has a theory that the more stressed Trump becomes the more bronzer he applies.

https://www.aol.com/photographer-explai ... 23583.html

That would mean he's super-stressed in this photo from yesterday in which he basically showed up wearing blackface. TIME FOR ELON GO.

Click image to enlarge.

[mookiemcgee]

What happens if Elon dyes his hair blonde and starts wearing loads of bronzer?