Ragian wrote:Also, you're at L-2 so it's a reeeeally good idea to claim in order to get people off your back. Posting thoughts might not do it for you.
The wagon was quick, yes.
There's probably scum on the wagon, yes.
Unlikely that scum would bus their teammate here, yes.
But Max is also the player who didn't claim cop on L-1 in an earlier game and made the same post wrt coming back later, they were town.
Point is that the slot is something you can't build around ever
EW seems to know somehow that I'm Town (something only scum know for a fact) and still votes me?
Also, Loose, do you remember last game that you said that I couldn't be EW's scum buddy because he put me at L-1? Looks like he remembered that and this time he'll make sure to vote early, for anyone, as long he gets
a Townee lynched, without it looking suspicious.
You're cool with someone being put on the brink of lynch and not claiming? That's just BS. The slippery lope argument - though not logically sound - dictates that no one claims at L-2 or even L-1 henceforth. When do you lynch, then?
Ragian wrote:You're cool with someone being put on the brink of lynch and not claiming? That's just BS. The slippery lope argument - though not logically sound - dictates that no one claims at L-2 or even L-1 henceforth. When do you lynch, then?
You won't stop until you get a claim from me won't you? Fine. I'm the Oracle. Happy now?
Ragian wrote:You're cool with someone being put on the brink of lynch and not claiming? That's just BS. The slippery lope argument - though not logically sound - dictates that no one claims at L-2 or even L-1 henceforth. When do you lynch, then?
You won't stop until you get a claim from me won't you? Fine. I'm the Oracle. Happy now?
Actually, oracles are supposed to speak, not just lurk and be douchey.
I agree Max's claim is sorta a role that would be selected by or for him as a fake claim.
So genuine FOS on max now but not nearly enough for me to vote to lynch him d1.
Also as rag got off of the lynch first when max was on 5, a weak FOS on rag (again - sigh) by implication, think rag (or someone) might be advising/engineering things with max - if max is scum.
@Max, yes, I'm happy now that you actually did what was asked of you. The role is often used in role madness games, so that checks out. Does your role have any limitations?
@Loose, what are you on about? Of course I unvoted when Max was at L-1 and hadn't claimed. Anything else would be irresponsible. Your weak FOS is also noted; a hypothetical scenario where somebody is guiding Max and on top of that hypothesis, the hypothesis that it's me.
Loose Canon wrote:I agree Max's claim is sorta a role that would be selected by or for him as a fake claim.
So genuine FOS on max now but not nearly enough for me to vote to lynch him d1.
Also as rag got off of the lynch first when max was on 5, a weak FOS on rag (again - sigh) by implication, think rag (or someone) might be advising/engineering things with max - if max is scum.
Let me clarify, I've only seen Oracle in role madness games. I don't think I've ever seen it in other games. I made a leap from I've have only seen it in role madness games to it's often used in role madness games.
Anyway, D1 is closing. Let's see how people feel about each other. Let's get some cards on the table. I'll start.
1. Vot - neutral... Haven't seen anything that sways me either way.
2. Rags - best townie ever
3 Charles - slightly scummy early doors
4. Loose - reads everything completely oppositely of me
5. Fusi - slightly scummy vote bringing Max to L-1
6. Dev - neutral to me (hopefully, I haven't confused dev and fusi)
7. EW - there's something off, but I can't put my finger on it
8. Kong - can't remember if he has said too much this game
9. Traf - same as kong
10. Max - reluctance to claim and contribution makes him slightly scummy to me. As always.
Mate you're better than that - rags - best ever (town/scum)
I actually only have a slight scum feel on max for reason outlined.
Marginal town feel for ew - didn't sense any attempt to manipulate when he aired a slight suss on max, same very marginal town feel for vot for same reason.
Slight town feels for Charle and rag for opening exchanges and no scum feels coming out of those opening exchanges.
Totally neutral everyone else.
Nothing really to go on, so no surprise nothing but slightest of feels for me at this stage.