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saxitoxin wrote:How is it that they included Minnehaha County, South Dakota but didn't include New Orleans?
Good point.
Most likely delayed-reaction Post-Katrina PTSD on the National Psyche.
People just want to forget.
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Votanic wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:How is it that they included Minnehaha County, South Dakota but didn't include New Orleans?
Good point.
Most likely delayed-reaction Post-Katrina PTSD on the National Psyche.
People just want to forget.
I deleted my post - turns out that was Kansas City, not Minnehaha County.
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saxitoxin wrote:
Votanic wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:How is it that they included Minnehaha County, South Dakota but didn't include New Orleans?
Good point.
Most likely delayed-reaction Post-Katrina PTSD on the National Psyche.
People just want to forget.
I deleted my post - turns out that was Kansas City, not Minnehaha County.
You were only three states off. I'm grateful to have preserved you post for posterity.

IMO, the absence of New Orleans is still notable.
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mookiemcgee wrote:thought this was interesting...over half the US population live in a small number of highly populated counties

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This type of map could have been made/manipulated for anywhere with similar results. Just keep adding on most populous counties until you get just over 50%.
Lol, no one is trying to manipulate anything... adding the most populous counties until you reach 50+% is EXACTLY how this map is created. It's just interesting (at least to me), that 50% of the population is crammed into 4.5% of the counties.

Packrat analysis is not wrong, but is myopic. 'Higher salaries and benefits' might drive population increases in some areas, but in others they are a byproduct of being highly populated not the reason the areas are highly populated. There is certainly a feedback loop involved where causation is shared in both directions to some degree. In most areas it's driven by geography and it's affect on international trade (along the coast lines CA,WA,NY,MA, key land border locations like MI, CA, El Paso county in Texas), other areas it's natural resource driven (Texas oil drilling/refining as an example), other areas its due to retirees who wana live somewhere warm with good golf and restaurants(AZ,FL)

Anyway, it's just interesting seeing it visualized imo so I shared, you can now resume attacking each other
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mookiemcgee wrote:
Votanic wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:thought this was interesting...over half the US population live in a small number of highly populated counties

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This type of map could have been made/manipulated for anywhere with similar results. Just keep adding on most populous counties until you get just over 50%.
Lol, no one is trying to manipulate anything... adding the most populous counties until you reach 50+% is EXACTLY how this map is created. It's just interesting (at least to me), that 50% of the population is crammed into 4.5% of the counties.

Packrat analysis is not wrong, but is myopic. 'Higher salaries and benefits' might drive population increases in some areas, but in others they are a byproduct of being highly populated not the reason the areas are highly populated. There is certainly a feedback loop involved where causation is shared in both directions to some degree. In most areas it's driven by geography and it's affect on international trade (along the coast lines CA,WA,NY,MA, key land border locations like MI, CA, El Paso county in Texas), other areas it's natural resource driven (Texas oil drilling/refining as an example), other areas its due to retirees who wana live somewhere warm with good golf and restaurants(AZ,FL)

Anyway, it's just interesting seeing it visualized imo so I shared, you can now resume attacking each other
...and mooky doesn't know what manipulation means.
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Holy shit, Tina Peters got 9 freaking years for tampering with voter data.
Trump is so effing effed.

Im convinced you would do it all over again if you could, the judge says, claiming she craves fame and is unable to accept shes wrong.
Youre a charlaten, pedaling a snake oil that has proven to be junk time and time again.

Good times ahead. lol
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pmac666 wrote:Holy shit, Tina Peters got 9 freaking years for tampering with voter data.
Trump is so effing effed.
You mean, in Colorado, where the Democratic insurrectionists tried to interfere with the Presidential Election by keeping Trump off the ballot, until the U.S. Supreme Court stepped in to stop them.

Also it is clear that the former claimed identity of the pmac666 account (small-time Austrian drug dealer) has been replaced by some kind of bot-like political misinfomation generator.
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pmac666 wrote:Tina Peters
I had to google that. Apparently she is the former County Clerk of a small county in frontier Colorado? (The official responsible for issuing liquor licenses and taking notes at commission meetings.)

Perfectly sane for an Austrian to be following local county politics in rural Colorado. Just yesterday I was sitting around with friends discussing who will be the next Bezirkshauptmann of Lienz. It became a very passionate and heated discussion and one of my friends got so angry he spit in the schnitzel. Verdammt!
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I smell desperation.
Losing isnt fun, eh? :lol:

And this only shows how uninformed you are. :lol:
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pmac666 wrote:I smell desperation.
Losing isnt fun, eh? :lol:
Whatever (and wherever) you're smelling, pukey. It's in an overseas enemy-bunker/thinktank, not America.
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mookiemcgee wrote:thought this was interesting...over half the US population live in a small number of highly populated counties

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I am not surprised. I have driven through much of the US, on several trips, and there is LOTS of empty spaces, with very few people. My biggest surprise was driving to Wilmington, NC alng I-40 and I noticed this. Since then, I have driven in parts of eastern VA and saw the same kind of open areas. I am NOT surprised there is so much open spaces in KS, AZ, CO, WY, UT, ID, & MT. (btw: Wyoming, WY, is the least populated of the 50 states.) I was surprised by the amount of open spaces in Southern IL and IN; much of that was planted with corn when I drove through there in the summer along I-64. I like to look out the window of airplanes when I travel and I see the same, assuming no clouds to block the view. And most of the US lives near one of the Oceans or Gulf of Mexico, too. Most of VA is concentrated in the DC suburbs and there is a high concentration in the Virginia Beach area, too.
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pmac666 wrote:I smell desperation.
Losing isnt fun, eh? :lol:

And this only shows how uninformed you are. :lol:
There are 3,143 counties, parishes, boroughs, and districts in the United States. No, I don't know the former county clerks of all of them. Or, in fact, any of them other than my own.

Have you been tested to see if you're on the spectrum? Just wondering. You're sending some powerful signals.
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saxitoxin wrote:
pmac666 wrote:I smell desperation.
Losing isnt fun, eh? :lol:

And this only shows how uninformed you are. :lol:
There are 3,143 counties, parishes, boroughs, and districts in the United States. No, I don't know the former county clerks of all of them. Or, in fact, any of them other than my own.

Have you been tested to see if you're on the spectrum? Just wondering. You're sending some powerful signals.

Ofc, you cant know one of the key figures in Trumps scheme to steal the election when you have to spend all day watching out for any dem to break a wind. :lol:
Youre as ususal lying anyways....lol
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pmac666 wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
pmac666 wrote:I smell desperation.
Losing isnt fun, eh? :lol:

And this only shows how uninformed you are. :lol:
There are 3,143 counties, parishes, boroughs, and districts in the United States. No, I don't know the former county clerks of all of them. Or, in fact, any of them other than my own.

Have you been tested to see if you're on the spectrum? Just wondering. You're sending some powerful signals.
Ofc, you cant know one of the key figures in Trumps scheme to steal the election when you have to spend all day watching out for any dem to break a wind. :lol:
Youre as ususal lying anyways....lol
Uhhh ... Colorado went to Biden 55-41% and hasn't been won by a Republican since 2004. Mesa County -- where this woman was a low-level county clerk -- has a population of 150,000 out of the 6,000,000 people who live in Colorado. It appears the crimes for which she was convicted occurred in February 2021, after Biden was already president.

Explain, precisely, how she was a "key figure" in some conspiracy theory you believe is happening to "steal the election?" Was she maybe building a time machine to go back in time and steal the election? Is that what you're contending?

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Just look at the desperation of Saxi.

Even Disney is making fun of Trump:




The kiddies must love this exhibit!
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Pack Rat wrote:Just look at the desperation of Saxi.

Even Disney is making fun of Trump:




The kiddies must love this exhibit!
What do you mean 'Even Disney?'
No, it's already well-established that Disney has gulped down a likely fatal dose of the woke Kool-Aid.
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Shut up Votanic! Saxi can make up his own stories.

Now make Saxi his sandwich.
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saxitoxin wrote:
pmac666 wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
pmac666 wrote:I smell desperation.
Losing isnt fun, eh? :lol:

And this only shows how uninformed you are. :lol:
There are 3,143 counties, parishes, boroughs, and districts in the United States. No, I don't know the former county clerks of all of them. Or, in fact, any of them other than my own.

Have you been tested to see if you're on the spectrum? Just wondering. You're sending some powerful signals.
Ofc, you cant know one of the key figures in Trumps scheme to steal the election when you have to spend all day watching out for any dem to break a wind. :lol:
Youre as ususal lying anyways....lol
Uhhh ... Colorado went to Biden 55-41% and hasn't been won by a Republican since 2004. Mesa County -- where this woman was a low-level county clerk -- has a population of 150,000 out of the 6,000,000 people who live in Colorado. It appears the crimes for which she was convicted occurred in February 2021, after Biden was already president.

Explain, precisely, how she was a "key figure" in some conspiracy theory you believe is happening to "steal the election?" Was she maybe building a time machine to go back in time and steal the election? Is that what you're contending?

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Well, now you know her, 9 beautiful years for fkin with the election.
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mookiemcgee wrote:thought this was interesting...over half the US population live in a small number of highly populated counties
That fact doesn't surprise me at all.

But what does surprise me, mind-blowing actually, is how much of Arizona is included in those highly populated counties.

Last time I was in Arizona, in '94, it was still mostly desert. Only Phoenix was a really big city. Tucson was a mid-size city, and everything else was basically a small town.

Actually, it gets even more mind-blowing when I actually write it out and realize that it was 30 years ago.
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Dukasaur wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:thought this was interesting...over half the US population live in a small number of highly populated counties
That fact doesn't surprise me at all.

But what does surprise me, mind-blowing actually, is how much of Arizona is included in those highly populated counties.

Last time I was in Arizona, in '94, it was still mostly desert. Only Phoenix was a really big city. Tucson was a mid-size city, and everything else was basically a small town.

Actually, it gets even more mind-blowing when I actually write it out and realize that it was 30 years ago.
As I already pointed out, those yellow areas on the map are counties, not urbanized areas.
Much of those large desert & semi-desert counties in Arizona, California, and southern Nevada are still largely rural, verging on unpopulated.
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Dukasaur wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:thought this was interesting...over half the US population live in a small number of highly populated counties
That fact doesn't surprise me at all.

But what does surprise me, mind-blowing actually, is how much of Arizona is included in those highly populated counties.

Last time I was in Arizona, in '94, it was still mostly desert. Only Phoenix was a really big city. Tucson was a mid-size city, and everything else was basically a small town.

Actually, it gets even more mind-blowing when I actually write it out and realize that it was 30 years ago.
A) look at the size of some of those counties tho!
B) It's all fucking Canadians!
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Trump suffered greatly, due to having to use a silver spoon with little help from his nanny.
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Pack Rat wrote:Trump suffered greatly, due to having to use a silver spoon with little help from his nanny.

Isnt it obvious that Trump, RFK jr and Elon are the anti establishment? :lol:

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It's funny. The story is told that when the Trump penthouse was first built, Ivana had it furnished by a classic designer in a very tasteful and restrained style.

Trump hated it, and two months later had it all torn out, replacing it with this garish monstrosity, designed by some gargoyle-maker who's previous jobs had all been casinos.
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