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Re: Charle's Friends & Enemies & Enemies & That Other Guy

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Since sonic is accusing me in his panic, of voting him because he is voting me I have made a collection before of my clear and natural progression to suspecting him, all of which came before he had said anything about me other than me being lock town.

I started with a nagging feeling that one of the loud players was scum, I reread him and loose a bit. I questioned his reasoning being very similar to that he was accusing others of. The loose claims, which narrowed the field and it seemed like sonic was much more likely. Sonic then went quiet, so I goaded him and questioned his world view.

Then, I very clearly as you can see from the thread, reread sonic and seen very sus day 1 behaviour, that included lying.

Compare this to sonics feelings on Pepe, where one day sonic is accusing him, the next he isn't and all he ever does by way of explanation is make claims on how he is confident about things (there are easily 5 examples of this).

Anyway, here are all my pre sonic voting me posts where you can see I am clearly go from suspicious to outright stating I think he is scum.
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[quote="pmchugh"] I do now get the feeling one of sonic or LC is wolf. Not sure which one yet but it felt like they took my slight hint at rag and hard with it.[/quote] [quote="pmchugh"] I think I have to do what I have been putting off; actually try read sonic and loose Canon. I love that you guys are active and wish more people were but its definitely more of a slog with so many posts :lol:[/quote] [quote="pmchugh"][quote="SoN!c"][b][color=#FF0000]Unvote[/color][/b] Also, Loose seems he does not want to go for Max anymore (like set in stone today and after he wanted to kill him that strongly D1)? It gives me the creeps, deja-vu EW feeling when EW didnt wanted to push for Traf anymore. But in reality Traf was his nightkill. Saying A in here during the day but acting B during the night.. "Max - NO (definitely not he can't be with EW)" "Sonic - YES - he may be scum if so more likely with EW" Its pretty simple if you ask me: Loose thinks PMC and DDS are the masons. He knows he cant touch them for mislynch. And he does not want to lynch the other scum either because he needs the double night kills.. He thinks Max is scum just like me and PMC are thinking. So he is buttering Max up so Max doesn't kill him tonight. And he cant have town lynch Max because then he is all alone against 4 town.. Vote [b][color=#FF0000]loose cannon[/color][/b][/quote] This logic could also apply to you. Like, you think Max is scum. You think me and DDS are masons. Therefore you started to push LC. Lc gets killed, you kill Max, we kill Pepe and you win. Like, if you think both Max and LC are scum, why vote LC out first, rather than Max?[/quote] [quote="pmchugh"]Actually sonic and max doesn't make sense, who would be EWs partner. I feel like there is a limited number of available scenarios.[/quote] [quote="pmchugh"]Ok, honestly not mad about the claim. I feel like this game is highly solvable. Possibilities I am considering Traf + Max Traf + Sonic Pepe + EW I kind of think it has to be Pepe because I don't see Max - EW or Sonic - EW. I guess DDS could be scum, which would through off all my possibilities.[/quote] [quote="pmchugh"]Kind of leaning towards Sonic and Pepe. Sonic today misreads me and DDS as the masons, he said so himself. So he tries to protect Pepe who he thinks is EWs partner to preserve the kill, getting Max and LC lynched to win.[/quote] [quote="pmchugh"][quote="SoN!c"]Pepe is a wild card flying high in the sky. Max is another wild card. Its like a Mexican stand off with 4 : me, pmc, you and DDS. And nobody is noticing the other 2. Nobody includes max and pepe and thats ok. But there are 2 scum in here. Im thinking DDS, LC and Pepe as scum right now. But like i said paranoia dust needs to settle first. And not receiving london calling antenna at all. FP by loose again[/quote] Why did you change your mind on Pepe sonic? What changed?[/quote] [quote="pmchugh"]Shall we start taking bets on sonics reason for why he stopped being the top poster the moment LC claimed? I was eating dinner 4/1. I have a life, I don't just sit on CC. 7/5 I was out with friends/partner 6/1. I was working 8/1 Sleeping 10/1 None of your business 3/1[/quote] [quote="pmchugh"][quote="SoN!c"][quote="pmchugh"]Shall we start taking bets on sonics reason for why he stopped being the top poster the moment LC claimed? I was eating dinner 4/1. I have a life, I don't just sit on CC. 7/5 I was out with friends/partner 6/1. I was working 8/1 Sleeping 10/1 None of your business 3/1[/quote] Lol PMC, im in Crete on holiday? Like i said well in advance? Even on holiday im no silent sub for days: I still check in in the morning and just before sleep time. And if i check in between its on my wife's phone.[/quote] You posted at 2,4,5 and 6 something today. I think its you with traf, who do you think our two scum are now after LCs claim?[/quote] [quote="pmchugh"][quote="SoN!c"]If you are mason loose your the most stupid mason ive ever seen (well at least i know im not making friends here). "sonic with EW" is plain silly stupid. Ask EW silly. And its not Pepe either but im sure you still think we are a scumpair :lol:[/quote] While I agree that Loose has that completly wrong, EW and you would be nuts, you no longer have a coherent map of this game. You say I am town, you say Pepe is town, you say LC and DDS are masons and you, that's 5 town. Who is EWs partner of not Pepe?[/quote]
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Somehow i was expecting better bullshit from you. Now its Pepe and not Max lmao. I remeber very well saying to you : who cares if you think its Max + Traf when i was thinking Max + EW. But if i was in your shoes i dont think i could come up with anything good either because there is no excuse realy.

If you are town it doesnt matter what scum you hit first. Only scum have no choice today
. Scum needs to mislynch town today or its game over tomorrow. Pepe or me could still be the spare and you know that very well. As scum you can't risk going into a finale with 2 masons alive.
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In a nice bar in Ag Nik, checking in with good sun and wine. And noticing, i forgot to mention : i clicked your "show" and saw 17 miles of yadayada..

I didnt even read it, its the longest post ive ever seen on mafia, fast scrolled through, thinking if you put in that much amount of work and fabricating and intentional misinterpreting stuff then you clearly have something to hide.

Yup. Cheers old boy.
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At charle: can we elect a force ghost back in the game from dead townies ? Like a jedi spirit who cant vote but who can guide us and is free to say whatever he wants? A Dead man's chat Ragian as force ghost would be super.
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SoN!c wrote:In a nice bar in Ag Nik, checking in with good sun and wine. And noticing, i forgot to mention : i clicked your "show" and saw 17 miles of yadayada..

I didnt even read it, its the longest post ive ever seen on mafia, fast scrolled through, thinking if you put in that much amount of work and fabricating and intentional misinterpreting stuff then you clearly have something to hide.

Yup. Cheers old boy.
I spoilered it for a reason but here is the highlight.

Sonic claims I am OMGUSing him, that is, attacking him because he attacked me.

I said this to you before you ever accused me:
pmchugh wrote: I think its you with traf, who do you think our two scum are now after LCs claim?
There you go, short, sweet, to the point, disproved.
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pmchugh wrote:
SoN!c wrote:In a nice bar in Ag Nik, checking in with good sun and wine. And noticing, i forgot to mention : i clicked your "show" and saw 17 miles of yadayada..

I didnt even read it, its the longest post ive ever seen on mafia, fast scrolled through, thinking if you put in that much amount of work and fabricating and intentional misinterpreting stuff then you clearly have something to hide.

Yup. Cheers old boy.
I spoilered it for a reason but here is the highlight.

Sonic claims I am OMGUSing him, that is, attacking him because he attacked me.

I said this to you before you ever accused me:
pmchugh wrote: I think its you with traf, who do you think our two scum are now after LCs claim?
There you go, short, sweet, to the point, disproved.
Keep it up and we are best friends in a nic. But all that very super long stuff just says your scum. In greece the saying is always listen to free advice
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And im having lots of fun here. Now you say im with Traf, just before i was "lock scum with EW" :lol:
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Please keep em coming, i'll answer to all. I have the truth on my side so sooner or later your slip ups will get noticed.
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Posting lots makes you scum - Sonic 2024.

Also, always paired you with traf, never EW.
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Lol You kept asking me like 17 times over:
"Why haven't you answered my question, who could be paired with EW?"

That was clearly adressed at me you slippery eel
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And explain "sonic 2024" please? :D

Like not the easy town target you imagined? But one that is confident with truth on his side these days? You picking easy pickings, thinking "im PMC mafia God", easy win for me" Yuup i see how thats going mafia God :D
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SoN!c wrote:Lol You kept asking me like 17 times over:
"Why haven't you answered my question, who could be paired with EW?"

That was clearly adressed at me you slippery eel
That was never an accusation that you were with EW. The point is, in my mind, there are very few players who could be paired with EW. Me, you and Max all have posts that would be super weird between team mates, obviously can't be LC. It's an interesting question.
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SoN!c wrote:And explain "sonic 2024" please? :D

Like not the easy town target you imagined? But one that is confident with truth on his side these days? You picking easy pickings, thinking "im PMC mafia God", easy win for me" Yuup i see how thats going mafia God :D
Just attributing a quote to you. Your reasons for saying I am suss are close to non existent, other than I post a lot, which is exactly what you do.

All you have is vibes, smoke and mirrors.
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Im searching for scum end game. I explained the end game into detail. Only 2 playing end game the way what im searching for. You and loose. Loose flips Mason so thats why it has to be you.

And kong hinted he was Mason just like EW did. Thats why it has to be you.
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I really don't recall either claiming masons. That's bit of a stretch.
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Or soft claiming. Or breadcrumbing.
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Yeah, neither.
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DirtyDishSoap wrote:I really don't recall either claiming masons. That's bit of a stretch.
EW said "Rag is not Mason" and Kong said "to sonic i just want to say town does have powers of some sort".

If that is not soft hinting your Mason then i dont know what is.
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DirtyDishSoap wrote:Pepe finally taking initiative!

Agreed though, the other mason has little reason to claim. That only paints a nice target on his back, and we also dont know if the back up is still in play. This is a horrible idea.
Yes, you are right, although if everyone is so clear about who to lynch, my opinion is not of much use.
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SoN!c wrote:
DirtyDishSoap wrote:I really don't recall either claiming masons. That's bit of a stretch.
EW said "Rag is not Mason" and Kong said "to sonic i just want to say town does have powers of some sort".

If that is not soft hinting your Mason then i dont know what is.
EW, is one I might accept as non crazy you could have read it that way. I wouldn't have seen it that way, it was pretty obvious Rag was not mason because literally everyone except EW was voting for him, calling him scum, or being voted by him. In retrospect, the level of consensus around that lynch should have been suspicious.

Kong, nah, you said it was a non PR game, he said it wasn't, not a soft.

Anyway, I am bored of the sonic show. I have made up my mind there. Happy to lynch there. In the meantime, going to read Pepe. I don't get big scum vibes from him, so it's possible I over looked something.
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Vote Count:

Sonic (2) - DDS, PMC
PMC (1) - Sonic
Max (1) - Pepe

No Vote (2) - LC, Max

With 6 Alive - 4 Needed for a lynch
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Well 2 scums to hit, doesnt matter which one first.

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PepeAtila wrote:
DirtyDishSoap wrote:Pepe finally taking initiative!

Agreed though, the other mason has little reason to claim. That only paints a nice target on his back, and we also dont know if the back up is still in play. This is a horrible idea.
Yes, you are right, although if everyone is so clear about who to lynch, my opinion is not of much use.
Can't hold my peace any longer.
This is civic apathy of the worst kind.
This is how werewolves got into the town
This is how mafia will end up running this town

There's a reason we haven't initiated you into the masons Pepe.
It's right here
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SoN!c wrote:Well 2 scums to hit, doesnt matter which one first.

Unvote

Vote Max
Sonic you are a fool.
That's why you are not a mason.
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Eh?

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