[CC14] Conquerors Cup XIV - Winner: LHDD, MVP: _Untouchable

[Caymanmew]

I’m pretty sure REP has the win vs LOW

Yes, I have them marked on the bracket. You're waiting on A^ v RET to finish now.

[rockfist]

The other side of that bracket is still in doubt though.

[Caymanmew]

A^ has officially defeated RET.

A^ will now face REP in the next round. The 6-week deadline starts this Sunday, March 24th, and goes until Sunday, May 5th.

Edit:
6-week deadline extended to May 9th, 5 week deadline moved forward 4 days as well to May 2nd

[Caymanmew]

Hey all,

Due to the situation that occurred in the ACES vs FALL war, we have had to make some changes to the wording of the rules. We are doing so based on the following disclaimer currently in the rules.

The format and the rules are subject to change if deemed appropriate by the CD Team.

Overall the rules haven't significantly changed and the spirit of the rules has stayed the same. What has changed is some of the procedural elements, such as the timing of the reporting and some of the wording to bring clarity and to align with the spirit of the rules.


The following are the newly written rules, which are effective immediately.

General Rules & Comments

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[Donelladan]

If one suspects any game abuse (in any form) that would result in the remake of a game, it must be reported to the TOs BEFORE the next player takes his/her turn. It is NOT considered reporting to complain or remark in game chat or the public forum.

That's a bit harsh imo.
I am sure at least half of the players engaged in the CC cup didn't read the entire rule thread.
And among those who read it I am not sure most of them know every rule of the section.
It's very possible the next player playing doesn't even know it was a broken rule but just assume it's just a shitty move, and therefore would proceed with his turn without warning other clanmates right away.
I've seen people complain in our internal clan discussion about a move of someone that could've been breaking a rule but still played their turn before any of the people that knew it was a broken rule could've responded.

Also one may not have so much time to wait before playing this next turn.
Player A breaks a rule. ~12h later player B see the turn, but only got 1-2h to play before he needs to go to work/life event/whatever and therefore cannot wait to discuss what happened otherwise he risks to miss his turn. He plays and then the player A gets away with it. That's not an uncommon situation for many people to not have tons of time to wait before player their turn.

I would rather that the CD examine the situation and the impact of the game rather than just have such a restrictive written rule.
I understand the reasoning that you to prevent that a clan could see a broken rule, play a few turns to see how the game turns, and then decide to ask for a remake.
That's why I think having a fixed rule like the one you just wrote isn't such a good idea and CD should just judge on a case to case basis. CD know should know enough of the game to see the difference between a meaningless running out of a time in the beginning of the game, and one with a decisive impact on the end of the game, to be able to judge fairly.

If you think it's not possible, I would think giving at least 24h for the other team to make a request for a game to be remade is much better than asking "before next player plays" since, there is always less than 24h remaining when next player see the game after someone played. ( and sometimes less than 12h).

[groovysmurf]

If one suspects any game abuse (in any form) that would result in the remake of a game, it must be reported to the TOs BEFORE the next player takes his/her turn. It is NOT considered reporting to complain or remark in game chat or the public forum.

That's a bit harsh imo.
I am sure at least half of the players engaged in the CC cup didn't read the entire rule thread.
And among those who read it I am not sure most of them know every rule of the section.
It's very possible the next player playing doesn't even know it was a broken rule but just assume it's just a shitty move, and therefore would proceed with his turn without warning other clanmates right away.
I've seen people complain in our internal clan discussion about a move of someone that could've been breaking a rule but still played their turn before any of the people that knew it was a broken rule could've responded.

Also one may not have so much time to wait before playing this next turn.
Player A breaks a rule. ~12h later player B see the turn, but only got 1-2h to play before he needs to go to work/life event/whatever and therefore cannot wait to discuss what happened otherwise he risks to miss his turn. He plays and then the player A gets away with it. That's not an uncommon situation for many people to not have tons of time to wait before player their turn.

I would rather that the CD examine the situation and the impact of the game rather than just have such a restrictive written rule.
I understand the reasoning that you to prevent that a clan could see a broken rule, play a few turns to see how the game turns, and then decide to ask for a remake.
That's why I think having a fixed rule like the one you just wrote isn't such a good idea and CD should just judge on a case to case basis. CD know should know enough of the game to see the difference between a meaningless running out of a time in the beginning of the game, and one with a decisive impact on the end of the game, to be able to judge fairly.

If you think it's not possible, I would think giving at least 24h for the other team to make a request for a game to be remade is much better than asking "before next player plays" since, there is always less than 24h remaining when next player see the game after someone played. ( and sometimes less than 12h).

This is a very good and valid point. We will discuss and either come up with a compromise or put a vote in CAT.

[rockfist]

For whatever it’s worth I agree with Don here, about timing.

[Caymanmew]

Hey Folks,

We have talked to the clans still active in CC14 and the majority want to switch the timeline for requesting a remake from "before the next turn" to "24 hours".

As such we will make this switch for the remainder of CC14.

For CC15, we will have a CAT poll to determine what the timing of the rule will be going forward.

[Caymanmew]

LHDD has beaten S&M, LHDD will now play ACES.

The 6-week deadline starts Sunday, June 2nd and goes through Sunday, July 14th.

[groovysmurf]

REP has officially defeated A^.

REP will now face TOFU in the semi-finals. The 6-week deadline starts this Sunday, June 23rd and goes until Sunday, August 4th.

[queen victorious]

well done all clans in the semis!

[IcePack]

REP has officially defeated A^.

REP will now face TOFU in the semi-finals. The 6-week deadline starts this Sunday, June 23rd and goes until Sunday, August 4th.

Bracket needs an update

[groovysmurf]

REP has officially defeated TOFU.

REP will now face LHDD in the finals. The 6-week deadline starts this Sunday, October 20th and goes until Sunday, December 1st.

[groovysmurf]

Congratulations to LHDD!!! MVP coming soon.

[donche64]

Hello CC Community,

I'm pleased to announce that _Untouchable is the Conquerors Cup XIV MVP !!

Spectacular results throughout the competition (75% win rate) and a staggering 14/16 during the Finals, congratz dude !

[groovysmurf]

Congratulations again to LHDD for winning the Cup and to _Untouchable for being voted as MVP!

Tournament completed.

All awards have been issued, including clan achievements for all members of the 1st and 2nd place clans, LHDD and REP, that played a minimum of 14 games over at least 2 rounds, 1500 credits and an additional clan achievement to the MVP: _Untouchable, the organizer achievements and the Clan Plaques.

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War Page Links and Final Results for All Rounds

Round One
ACES (30) vs LION (13) - Clan War Page
ATL (28) vs FOED (15) - Clan War Page
REP (26) vs LOW (17) - Clan War Page
S&M (28) vs AFOS (15) - Clan War Page
LHDD (33) vs KNT (10) - Clan War Page
A^ (33) vs RET (10) - Clan War Page

Round Two
ACES (28) vs FALL (21) - Clan War Page
LHDD (28) vs S&M (21) - Clan War Page
REP (28) vs A^ (21) - Clan War Page
TOFU (27) vs ATL (22) - Clan War Page

Round Three - Semi-Finals
LHDD (29) vs ACES (26) - Clan War Page
REP (28) vs TOFU (27) - Clan War Page

Round Four - Finals
LHDD (44) vs REP (17) - Clan War Page