The Tick Mafia - JUSTICE PREVAILS!

[DirtyDishSoap]

Think of someone that can blend in with his surroundings. I just can't mimic complicated patterns.

[TrafalgarLaw01]

Scummy
Sonic - Even if he is town, it's becoming painful to read. A legal means of human torture.

[TrafalgarLaw01]

Think of someone that can blend in with his surroundings. I just can't mimic complicated patterns.

Are u claiming Crusader Chameleon?

[DirtyDishSoap]

Well i didnt want to say it but yeah. Thanks! (Ya little shit) Not a damn phantom!

[TrafalgarLaw01]

Well its time for me to make a full claim.
I am a hero but a lousy hero according to both wiki and the power I got as I can't do anything on myself.

I am crusading Chameleon - town - power: absorber (I get the power of the person that visits me at night and can use it in the next night, i havent been visited so far so I haven't done anything all game)

Unvote, Vote DDS

[DirtyDishSoap]

Unvote, vote Traf

In what world would a town power be an absorber? For a chameleon?

My role is Hider. I choose a target at night to blend in, but if i choose scum, i die.

[TrafalgarLaw01]

Your night targets really didnt made sense, specially Rag. It had been going around in my mind not to put you town and as I said I didnt believe your role as much as Pix. I would have believe ghost but then changing it and u fall in it yourself.

[DirtyDishSoap]

I never claimed Ghost or Phantom. Again, these two roles slapped stick onto me by EW is NOT my role.

Its simply Hider. Like a Chameleon. https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Hider

[degaston]

Vote Count:

• swang918 : 3 (Charle, PepeAtila, General Bax)
  General Bax : 2 (Ragian, Extreme Ways)
  Extreme Ways : 2 (traffic133, SoN!c)
  strike wolf : 1 (swang918)
  Darin44 : 1 (*Pixar*)
  DirtyDishSoap : 1 (TrafalgarLaw01)
  TrafalgarLaw01 : 1 (DirtyDishSoap)
  
  No Vote : 2 (Darin44, strike wolf)

13 Alive, 7 votes needed to lynch

[TrafalgarLaw01]

I know u didnt claim it, but u let it be for a while till just a few posts ago where u said u didnt claim it.
I checked signed up thread u said u loved the show as a kid - also u are an experienced mafia player. Coming with both a character and role without being true would be much easier for u than for me.

[DirtyDishSoap]

I know u didnt claim it, but u let it be for a while till just a few posts ago where u said u didnt claim it.
I checked signed up thread u said u loved the show as a kid - also u are an experienced mafia player. Coming with both a character and role without being true would be much easier for u than for me.

I didn't even see it because of the amount of white noise being generated by our Superhuman Typewriter Sonic. It wasn't until a mention of it was made recently that I've said something.

Hell, im going through a characters list and none of them remotely mention anything close to absorbing powers.

[strike wolf]

Lol. So two players I don't fully trust both claiming powers that cannot be currently confirmed. Though, Traf is taking a risk if it's a fake claim as it would only take one living townie having visited him to disprove his claim. Traf, What happens if more than one person targets you?

@DDS: I believe you claimed that you wanted to use your ability to test alignment but would die if you hid behind scum. Hiders cannot talk after death so how would you confirm anyone was scum?

I'll hold my vote in case someone can contradict Trafs claim.

Dega: Did mafia/Sk/any other anti-town role receive Fake Claims to use?

[DirtyDishSoap]

Lol. So two players I don't fully trust both claiming powers that cannot be currently confirmed. Though, Traf is taking a risk if it's a fake claim as it would only take one living townie having visited him to disprove his claim. Traf, What happens if more than one person targets you?

@DDS: I believe you claimed that you wanted to use your ability to test alignment but would die if you hid behind scum. Hiders cannot talk after death so how would you confirm anyone was scum?

I'll hold my vote in case someone can contradict Trafs claim.

Dega: Did mafia/Sk/any other anti-town role receive Fake Claims to use?

I gave some thought behind it earlier and i could do a general 2 or 3 person list and say im hiding behind one of the two/three (to avoid a double kill) and if i were to die, of those 3 would be scum.

[DirtyDishSoap]

So roughly 5 years ago, Skoffin had this same ability and used it on Dakky. My very first game here, but i had to convince Fircoal that Dakky was scum. I'm trying to use this ability the exact same way.

[degaston]

Dega: Did mafia/Sk/any other anti-town role receive Fake Claims to use?

https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewt ... 7#p5295812

My plan is to have a closed setup with safe-claims provided.

[TrafalgarLaw01]

Lol. So two players I don't fully trust both claiming powers that cannot be currently confirmed. Though, Traf is taking a risk if it's a fake claim as it would only take one living townie having visited him to disprove his claim. Traf, What happens if more than one person targets you?

@DDS: I believe you claimed that you wanted to use your ability to test alignment but would die if you hid behind scum. Hiders cannot talk after death so how would you confirm anyone was scum?

I'll hold my vote in case someone can contradict Trafs claim.

Dega: Did mafia/Sk/any other anti-town role receive Fake Claims to use?

On any night someone visits me, I will gain the non-factional power of the player who visiteded me, and I will be able to use it on a subsequent night. However I may use a power only once. If I am visited by someone before I use a power, it will be replaced by the new power. If I am visited by multiple players, my senses will be overloaded, and I will not gain any powers.

[strike wolf]

So why would scum DDS ignore his safe claim to claim another character who might be in the game? The only reason I can think of is that the provided claim was a pretty weak one which doesn't quite agree with my earlier theory that Dega left room for strong safe claims. Still it could just be that DDS got the short end of the scum stick for fake claims and got one of the weaker ones.

@Traf: So basically testing your role is pretty much impossible since it would just take two scum visiting you to make sure that you couldn't prove it the next day.

[TrafalgarLaw01]

So why would scum DDS ignore his safe claim to claim another character who might be in the game? The only reason I can think of is that the provided claim was a pretty weak one which doesn't quite agree with my earlier theory that Dega left room for strong safe claims. Still it could just be that DDS got the short end of the scum stick for fake claims and got one of the weaker ones.

@Traf: So basically testing your role is pretty much impossible since it would just take two scum visiting you to make sure that you couldn't prove it the next day.

Or even by accident like lets say a townie visits me at the same time than a mafia. As i've said I'm a lousy hero as my power was nerfed according to what I read absorbers can do.
I havent got any notification that I can use a power so I assume no one has visited me. Not sure what would happen if two visit me at the same night, I don't know if I would get any notification or not.

[strike wolf]

I think I trust Traf here more than DDS. The main reasoning is why fake a counter claim now? And why against DDS? When what he was claiming wasn't a particularly powerful role? As Son!c pointed out, Role Blocker is a role that can often be mafia. Traf could have claimed role blocker even used his soft name claim and I would have been lynched. So I don't see why he would do it now against a weaker role unless he just didn't think of it at the time.

I see 2 options: 1. We decide which is of these two is less likely to be tosn and go for the lynch now. 2. We give DDS the chance to prove his claim by having him hide behind Traf. DDS dies with a town role then we know that Traf is lying. DDS lives then DDS is most likely lying.

2. Could go awry if mafia has a bus driver or redirector. I would have expected a bus driver to try to switch Rag with someone not likely to receive a protection to get a kill on him through though so I currently don't think they have a busdriver.

I lean towards option 1 as I don't think we're going to have a stronger Case come up today. Vote DDS

[Extreme Ways]

Traf's claim is a lot stronger than DDS' claim. I'll have to go through posts and dont want to speed-vote this but option 2 I dont quite like, though idk if such a role would be town or mafia-aligned.

unvote

[PepeAtila]

I begin to get tired of people fighting 1 vs 1 and bluring their votes. I guess this is going nowhere.

Now we have:
swang918 : 3 (Charle, PepeAtila, General Bax)
Extreme Ways : 2 (traffic133, SoN!c)
DirtyDishSoap : 2 (TrafalgarLaw01, Strike)

and several with 1 vote, please I hope those with 1 vote choose one of these people to vote.
Please concentrate the votes.

I would say any of these 3.

[Extreme Ways]

I think I trust Traf here more than DDS. The main reasoning is why fake a counter claim now? And why against DDS? When what he was claiming wasn't a particularly powerful role? As Son!c pointed out, Role Blocker is a role that can often be mafia. Traf could have claimed role blocker even used his soft name claim and I would have been lynched. So I don't see why he would do it now against a weaker role unless he just didn't think of it at the time.

I see 2 options: 1. We decide which is of these two is less likely to be tosn and go for the lynch now. 2. We give DDS the chance to prove his claim by having him hide behind Traf. DDS dies with a town role then we know that Traf is lying. DDS lives then DDS is most likely lying.

2. Could go awry if mafia has a bus driver or redirector. I would have expected a bus driver to try to switch Rag with someone not likely to receive a protection to get a kill on him through though so I currently don't think they have a busdriver.

I lean towards option 1 as I don't think we're going to have a stronger Case come up today. Vote DDS

Today is busy, has been busy. I do want to note that I have strong suspicions there's a redirector in this game, I'm just not sure whether they are town or mafia-aligned. If we mislynch on DDS/Traf and Pepe tries to kill the other, we must be sure that it doesnt get redirected.

[TrafalgarLaw01]

I begin to get tired of people fighting 1 vs 1 and bluring their votes. I guess this is going nowhere.

Now we have:
swang918 : 3 (Charle, PepeAtila, General Bax)
Extreme Ways : 2 (traffic133, SoN!c)
DirtyDishSoap : 2 (TrafalgarLaw01, Strike)

and several with 1 vote, please I hope those with 1 vote choose one of these people to vote.
Please concentrate the votes.

I would say any of these 3.

To be honest people should vote for me or for DirtyDishSoap there is higher chance to get a scum. Neither of us can really prove our claim. So it will come down to who you all believe more.

[PepeAtila]

Spoiler

[quote="PepeAtila"]I begin to get tired of people fighting 1 vs 1 and bluring their votes. I guess this is going nowhere. Now we have: [b]swang918 : 3 [/b](Charle, PepeAtila, General Bax) [b]Extreme Ways : 2 [/b](traffic133, SoN!c) [b]DirtyDishSoap : 2 [/b](TrafalgarLaw01, Strike) and several with 1 vote, please I hope those with 1 vote choose one of these people to vote. Please concentrate the votes. I would say any of these 3.

To be honest people should vote for me or for DirtyDishSoap there is higher chance to get a scum. Neither of us can really prove our claim. So it will come down to who you all believe more.[/quote]
I have no preferences, in fact I got those with more than 1 vote now.
I mean if only DDS did vote for you, why to keep this vote doing nothing. So please DDS change your vote or convince somebody else to join you.
@Trafalgar. About your 1 vs 1 with DDS, I can't know if any, both or none of you are scum.
Can you (and DDS) confirm that one is scum and the other is town?

[TrafalgarLaw01]

Spoiler

[quote="PepeAtila"]I begin to get tired of people fighting 1 vs 1 and bluring their votes. I guess this is going nowhere. Now we have: [b]swang918 : 3 [/b](Charle, PepeAtila, General Bax) [b]Extreme Ways : 2 [/b](traffic133, SoN!c) [b]DirtyDishSoap : 2 [/b](TrafalgarLaw01, Strike) and several with 1 vote, please I hope those with 1 vote choose one of these people to vote. Please concentrate the votes. I would say any of these 3.

To be honest people should vote for me or for DirtyDishSoap there is higher chance to get a scum. Neither of us can really prove our claim. So it will come down to who you all believe more.

I have no preferences, in fact I got those with more than 1 vote now.
I mean if only DDS did vote for you, why to keep this vote doing nothing. So please DDS change your vote or convince somebody else to join you.
@Trafalgar. About your 1 vs 1 with DDS, I can't know if any, both or none of you are scum.
Can you (and DDS) confirm that one is scum and the other is town?[/quote]

We are both claiming the same character Crusading Chamaleon, we both can't be it. So one is 100% lying