The Tick Mafia - JUSTICE PREVAILS!

[DirtyDishSoap]

I want to add that i do find it a tad suspicious about how reserved i have been in regards to Strike v Selective group. I held this same reservation on Ragian and it wasn't until Razor made a slip in his role and lack of information that i jumped on it and correctly guessed that he was Barry. I am reading. I cannot post with the amount of absolute white noise being generated by Sonic (Sorry). Most of what had been posted could not be added in any positive way without beating a dead horse.

I may have acted prudently with my soft claim, but that was to help with the theory of n1. The fact remaining that I'm "less active" compared to previous days should not have any bearing. I'm simply observing events unfold, similar to D2 and waiting for a slip.

[PepeAtila]

Fist of all I'm going to believe you, even because now I realize you were wrong and that is why I did vote against you, I think was important.
PepeAtila on 26 Sep 2023, 21:51(pag 34)

Spoiler

[quote="PepeAtila"][quote="strike wolf"]Because as I've already said more than once, I don't trust you or your play style Son!c. All I can confirm is that you didn't [b]personally[/b] send in the kill on Charle. It doesnt mean you werent part of the mafia team who did. It doesnt mean that you didnt try to kill someone else night 1 and just failed.... [/quote] Explain how you confirm that Sonic didn't try to kill doc Charle, but perhaps Sonic tried to kill someone else ... (or I read wrongly?) [b][color=#FF0000]Vote Strike[/color][/b][/quote]

so now unvote Strike

But I don't understand why you changed what you were thinking about Sonic.

Spoiler

[quote="strike wolf"]Because as I've already said more than once, I don't trust you or your play style Son!c. All I can confirm is that you didn't [b]personally[/b] send in the kill on Charle. It doesnt mean you werent part of the mafia team who did. It doesnt mean that you didnt try to kill someone else night 1 and just failed. There were still a lot of ways you could be mafia or 3rd party. Die fledermaus is a pretty strong claim but not one I considered guaranteed. Especially since all the town members killed so far weren't significant characters in the show and my own character only appeared in one episode which suggests to me that Dega did indeed leave room for strong fake claims. Then you seemed to be really pushing against the Raz wagon which I thought seemed odd and brought up The idea that The Tick could be 3rd party. It made no sense that you would think heroes were third party unless: 1. You werent a hero. In which case, the Die Fledermaus soft claim was a lie. Very scummy. Or 2. Our dear Die Fledermaus was third party and thus thought other heroes would be too. Probably survivor since he's usually described as a coward. However, your actions of being pretty aggressive made even less sense as a survivor than as scum. So I leaned into option 1. Then, Raz flipped 3rd party, meaning you two weren't connected and your concern was possibly legitimate. I also failed to consider that your action just didn't go through on N1 which I really should have.[/quote]

Since when is it accepted fact that mafia has 2 kills on top of Fusi's electrocution mechanic?

I think Mafia had 2 killers (Fusi and another)
about day 2: I dont understand how or who did kill Fusi.(fusibaseball has been blown up!).
Perhaps 'to be preforming the faction kill' did not allow Fusi electrically charge any player?. Did he receive a bomb? - so the Bomber is not scum(3P) ?.

Spoiler

[img]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AIL4fc8CAaLXuCLc_T5skTMxX_GRKg38cLYwC8HQQ5UnZAR5aJGf9O04XWha0UT5ll2D0X7pR58adRia9zKhVaf_wEGNNmRQdmQaU-fifDMjbY6IKsGvB8K9=w2400[/img] [u]Name:[/u] [list][*][b][color=#FF0000]Shiela Eel[/color][/b][/list] [u]Role:[/u] [list][*][b][color=#FF0000]Mafia, Electrifier[/color][/b][/list] [u]Abilities:[/u] [list][*][url=https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Electrifier]Electrifier[/url]: Each night, if you are not performing the faction kill, you may target a player to electrically charge them. If an electrically charged player ever targets another electrically charged player, both players will die.[/list]

about day 1? Just I don't undertand about the 'faction kill' because I doubt if you blocking Sonic means something or not for Mafia.
But even when I think he is 3P, ... he is very slippery.

[DirtyDishSoap]

Fist of all I'm going to believe you, even because now I realize you were wrong and that is why I did vote against you, I think was important.
PepeAtila on 26 Sep 2023, 21:51(pag 34)

Spoiler

[quote="PepeAtila"][quote="strike wolf"]Because as I've already said more than once, I don't trust you or your play style Son!c. All I can confirm is that you didn't [b]personally[/b] send in the kill on Charle. It doesnt mean you werent part of the mafia team who did. It doesnt mean that you didnt try to kill someone else night 1 and just failed....

Explain how you confirm that Sonic didn't try to kill doc Charle, but perhaps Sonic tried to kill someone else ... (or I read wrongly?)

Vote Strike[/quote][/spoiler]
so now unvote Strike

But I don't understand why you changed what you were thinking about Sonic.

Spoiler

[quote="strike wolf"]Because as I've already said more than once, I don't trust you or your play style Son!c. All I can confirm is that you didn't [b]personally[/b] send in the kill on Charle. It doesnt mean you werent part of the mafia team who did. It doesnt mean that you didnt try to kill someone else night 1 and just failed. There were still a lot of ways you could be mafia or 3rd party. Die fledermaus is a pretty strong claim but not one I considered guaranteed. Especially since all the town members killed so far weren't significant characters in the show and my own character only appeared in one episode which suggests to me that Dega did indeed leave room for strong fake claims. Then you seemed to be really pushing against the Raz wagon which I thought seemed odd and brought up The idea that The Tick could be 3rd party. It made no sense that you would think heroes were third party unless: 1. You werent a hero. In which case, the Die Fledermaus soft claim was a lie. Very scummy. Or 2. Our dear Die Fledermaus was third party and thus thought other heroes would be too. Probably survivor since he's usually described as a coward. However, your actions of being pretty aggressive made even less sense as a survivor than as scum. So I leaned into option 1. Then, Raz flipped 3rd party, meaning you two weren't connected and your concern was possibly legitimate. I also failed to consider that your action just didn't go through on N1 which I really should have.[/quote]

Since when is it accepted fact that mafia has 2 kills on top of Fusi's electrocution mechanic?

I think Mafia had 2 killers (Fusi and another)
about day 2: I dont understand how or who did kill Fusi.(fusibaseball has been blown up!).
Perhaps 'to be preforming the faction kill' did not allow Fusi electrically charge any player?. Did he receive a bomb? - so the Bomber is not scum(3P) ?.

Spoiler

[img]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AIL4fc8CAaLXuCLc_T5skTMxX_GRKg38cLYwC8HQQ5UnZAR5aJGf9O04XWha0UT5ll2D0X7pR58adRia9zKhVaf_wEGNNmRQdmQaU-fifDMjbY6IKsGvB8K9=w2400[/img] [u]Name:[/u] [list][*][b][color=#FF0000]Shiela Eel[/color][/b][/list] [u]Role:[/u] [list][*][b][color=#FF0000]Mafia, Electrifier[/color][/b][/list] [u]Abilities:[/u] [list][*][url=https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Electrifier]Electrifier[/url]: Each night, if you are not performing the faction kill, you may target a player to electrically charge them. If an electrically charged player ever targets another electrically charged player, both players will die.[/list]

about day 1? Just I don't undertand about the 'faction kill' because I doubt if you blocking Sonic means something or not for Mafia.
But even when I think he is 3P, ... he is very slippery.[/quote]
Pepe. From what i understand, verbage given with Fusis death is that at only one time can one scum initiate a kill. Look at Fusis tole for example: Unless the main role who initiates the kill, their role will remain the same. This is a loose paraphrase, but it stands to reason that scum only have one kill per night, based on hierarchy.

@EW Are you avoiding Traffic because of his vote and OMGUS or just because of more or less same argument aforementioned being made?

[Extreme Ways]

@EW Are you avoiding Traffic because of his vote and OMGUS or just because of more or less same argument aforementioned being made?

No, I just find him to be more neutral and he didnt hop on strike when Sonic switched from me to strike. Sonic/Traffic werent the only ones finding me more suspicious today, I understand it.

[Ragian]

Vote Count:

• strike wolf : 5 (*Pixar*, swang918, SoN!c, Charle, PepeAtila)
  Extreme Ways : 1 (traffic133)
  General Bax : 1 (DirtyDishSoap)
  
  No Vote : 6 (Darin44, Extreme Ways, General Bax, Ragian, strike wolf, TrafalgarLaw01)

13 Alive, 7 votes needed to lynch

There is scum and there are idiots on that list voting for Strike. Swang, Pepe, or Charle?

I can't remember why people are after swang. I have already felt iffy about Pepe, but it seems likely that he is the vig, which would make him town. Charle has continuously said that he is town and that Deg wouldn't cast him as scum. Too eager to seem town.

I need to see who was on the Raz train of those guys.

[Ragian]

Vote Count:

• Razorvich : 11 (Ragian, DirtyDishSoap, PepeAtila, TrafalgarLaw01, swang918, *Pixar*, Extreme Ways, SoN!c, strike wolf, Darin44, fusibaseball)
  swang918 : 2 (Loose Canon x 2)
  Ragian : 1 (Razorvich)
  Loose Canon : 0 ()
  
  No Vote : 5 (Charle, DukeHazzard, fusibaseball, General Bax, Maxleod, traffic133)

18 Alive, 10 votes needed to lynch

That's a lynch.
Scene coming...

There is to be no posting in this thread until Day 3

Swang is there. Interesting. Darin is also interesting.

Humm...

Town vibe
Strike
DDS
Pixar

Meh
Son!c
Pepe
Swang
EW
Traf

Scummy vibe
Darin
Charle
traffic
bax

I'll agree with Darin, though, that I'm constantly a million posts behind. To be honest, I skip a lot of the "I quote everything" posts.

I need to check the train on Pixar, too. I'd vote swang right now, but then I'd be voting alongside Charle. What to do?

[Ragian]

Vote Count:

• *Pixar* : 8 (L-2) (Charle, Darin44, DukeHazzard, fusibaseball, General Bax, Maxleod, PepeAtila, SoN!c)
  General Bax : 1 (Extreme Ways)
  Loose Canon : 1 (*Pixar*)
  strike wolf : 1 (drake_259)
  TrafalgarLaw01 : 1 (swang918)
  No Lynch : 1 (DirtyDishSoap)
  Ragian : 0* (Loose Canon)

10 votes needed to lynch

* Not a typo

Humm... Bax is on there, too.

f*ck it.

Vote Bax

[Extreme Ways]

Sorry, that looks fishy to me without addressing why strike's story made sense.
unvote vote Charle

@DDS that makes sense, but I do believe we have better options for now. I'm willing to vote with you if push comes to shove (i.e. if ragian votes with you), but I really prefer Charle and Swang here. Traffic I'll excuse because he voted for me, I have no clue on the lad. Also down to vote him when needed.

Putting my money where my mouth is.

unvote vote bax

[degaston]

Vote Count:

• General Bax : 3 (DirtyDishSoap, Ragian, Extreme Ways)
  strike wolf : 2 (swang918, SoN!c)
  Extreme Ways : 1 (traffic133)
  Darin44 : 1 (*Pixar*)
  swang918 : 1 (Charle)
  
  No Vote : 5 (Darin44, General Bax, PepeAtila, strike wolf, TrafalgarLaw01)

13 Alive, 7 votes needed to lynch

[strike wolf]

Okay. I didnt catch the Vig softclaim from Pepe. That does move him onto my town list.

Fist of all I'm going to believe you, even because now I realize you were wrong and that is why I did vote against you, I think was important.
PepeAtila on 26 Sep 2023, 21:51(pag 34)

Spoiler

[quote="PepeAtila"][quote="strike wolf"]Because as I've already said more than once, I don't trust you or your play style Son!c. All I can confirm is that you didn't [b]personally[/b] send in the kill on Charle. It doesnt mean you werent part of the mafia team who did. It doesnt mean that you didnt try to kill someone else night 1 and just failed....

Explain how you confirm that Sonic didn't try to kill doc Charle, but perhaps Sonic tried to kill someone else ... (or I read wrongly?)

Vote Strike[/quote][/spoiler]
so now unvote Strike

But I don't understand why you changed what you were thinking about Sonic.

Spoiler

[quote="strike wolf"]Because as I've already said more than once, I don't trust you or your play style Son!c. All I can confirm is that you didn't [b]personally[/b] send in the kill on Charle. It doesnt mean you werent part of the mafia team who did. It doesnt mean that you didnt try to kill someone else night 1 and just failed. There were still a lot of ways you could be mafia or 3rd party. Die fledermaus is a pretty strong claim but not one I considered guaranteed. Especially since all the town members killed so far weren't significant characters in the show and my own character only appeared in one episode which suggests to me that Dega did indeed leave room for strong fake claims. Then you seemed to be really pushing against the Raz wagon which I thought seemed odd and brought up The idea that The Tick could be 3rd party. It made no sense that you would think heroes were third party unless: 1. You werent a hero. In which case, the Die Fledermaus soft claim was a lie. Very scummy. Or 2. Our dear Die Fledermaus was third party and thus thought other heroes would be too. Probably survivor since he's usually described as a coward. However, your actions of being pretty aggressive made even less sense as a survivor than as scum. So I leaned into option 1. Then, Raz flipped 3rd party, meaning you two weren't connected and your concern was possibly legitimate. I also failed to consider that your action just didn't go through on N1 which I really should have.[/quote]

Since when is it accepted fact that mafia has 2 kills on top of Fusi's electrocution mechanic?

I think Mafia had 2 killers (Fusi and another)
about day 2: I dont understand how or who did kill Fusi.(fusibaseball has been blown up!).
Perhaps 'to be preforming the faction kill' did not allow Fusi electrically charge any player?. Did he receive a bomb? - so the Bomber is not scum(3P) ?.

Spoiler

[img]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AIL4fc8CAaLXuCLc_T5skTMxX_GRKg38cLYwC8HQQ5UnZAR5aJGf9O04XWha0UT5ll2D0X7pR58adRia9zKhVaf_wEGNNmRQdmQaU-fifDMjbY6IKsGvB8K9=w2400[/img] [u]Name:[/u] [list][*][b][color=#FF0000]Shiela Eel[/color][/b][/list] [u]Role:[/u] [list][*][b][color=#FF0000]Mafia, Electrifier[/color][/b][/list] [u]Abilities:[/u] [list][*][url=https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Electrifier]Electrifier[/url]: Each night, if you are not performing the faction kill, you may target a player to electrically charge them. If an electrically charged player ever targets another electrically charged player, both players will die.[/list]

about day 1? Just I don't undertand about the 'faction kill' because I doubt if you blocking Sonic means something or not for Mafia.
But even when I think he is 3P, ... he is very slippery.[/quote]

Honestly, i dont think Son!c is town. I still find it hard to believe he could be town with a hero role and have believed that The Tick would be 3rd party. I wanted to reconsider my position on him based on new info provided by N2 and see if I still wanted to push him. I also wanted to look at other players. At some point, I want to say a bit before I confirmed Son!cs soft claim, EW seemed to be backing off him. He hasnt confirmed why but from what I've read at that point and since, I think I get the gist of what EW discovered and if I'm right, I would have to agree that Son!c is likely not mafia.

So ultimately I think he's probably third party and I would rather focus on finding mafia than pursuing him at the moment. I kind of want EW to explain more clearly why he changed his position but trust him enough that I don't think he should be pushed to confirm.

[SoN!c]

Vote Count:

• strike wolf : 5 (*Pixar*, swang918, SoN!c, Charle, PepeAtila)
  Extreme Ways : 1 (traffic133)
  General Bax : 1 (DirtyDishSoap)
  
  No Vote : 6 (Darin44, Extreme Ways, General Bax, Ragian, strike wolf, TrafalgarLaw01)

13 Alive, 7 votes needed to lynch

There is scum and there are idiots on that list voting for Strike. Swang, Pepe, or Charle?

I can't remember why people are after swang. I have already felt iffy about Pepe, but it seems likely that he is the vig, which would make him town. Charle has continuously said that he is town and that Deg wouldn't cast him as scum. Too eager to seem town.

I need to see who was on the Raz train of those guys.

People were on Swang because Loose was going like a mad freight train doing 140mph on him. I searched and searched trying to figure out his clues on that but in the end i just labeled them "Loony Tunes".

Could not find any clue in all them Loose posts on Swang that was leading to something or somewhere. If he was trying to get Swang nuts and getting an emotional response he sure tried lol. Respect! At a certain moment i went searching if he was the "Gambler" or if he was meaning anything by it. But all of it just seemed dead ends. Anyway i loved the search and i have to be honest i miss Loose in here. Off the charts Loose. I did had a clue on his identity but Then also im pretty sure Loose gave me the credits for finding out who he was related to his ability but in fact it was Charle who found that out first. Loose was just thinking it was me. I see this in a lot of posts
through out the entire game. People think Player A posted it but in fact it was Player B..

Can't blame the fast scrollers and the short memories. If you don't make notes it's a turmoil in here. But then again In the original comic series, the Tick is apparently legally insane, having escaped from a mental institution.

Arthur: I think I'm going crazy.
Tick: You're not going crazy, Arthur. You're going sane in a crazy world!

[Extreme Ways]

If Sonic is third party he is a third-party whose goals align with ours. I am quite sure he's just a very aggressive townie though, and definitely did not carry out a N2 kill.

[SoN!c]

If Sonic is third party he is a third-party whose goals align with ours. I am quite sure he's just a very aggressive townie though, and definitely did not carry out a N2 kill.

Im town, EW knows it - and to Strike: if you haven't found that out by now then have a good beer or 12, reread the entire 37 pages and visit me again at some point tonight. I'd recommend Westvleteren 12 (yellow cap), (formerly Abt), a 10.2% ABV, introduced in 1940 for you. Drink all 12 of them. Pardon my french

In fact im gonna enjoy myself with a good glass too and stay out of it until D4. If im still here then that is.

[SoN!c]

PS: @Strike: drinking all 12 Westvleteren 12 might help.., it may not.. Good Luck!

[SoN!c]

I will never forget the day we met.. loved the game.. but we both know im not gonna survive D4... i'm leaving..

[Extreme Ways]

Finally somebody that notices it. Seems mafia m.o. to flood the thread with a lot of posts everythime we are on to something. And the result of all thoses posts is just "divide an conquer" or so designed because they know most of townies won't be able to read it all and just fast scroll thru at most if they even read it.

[SoN!c]

Finally somebody that notices it. Seems mafia m.o. to flood the thread with a lot of posts everythime we are on to something. And the result of all thoses posts is just "divide an conquer" or so designed because they know most of townies won't be able to read it all and just fast scroll thru at most if they even read it.

Im checking out EW. Pretty sure im dead by morning.. Man i loved to be on your team!

[Extreme Ways]

Ok I'm taking the bait: Does your role kill you in N3? Is there more to it than just thinking you'll die?

I expect Rag to die as confirmed townie with unconfirmed role.

[SoN!c]

Ok I'm taking the bait: Does your role kill you in N3? Is there more to it than just thinking you'll die?

I expect Rag to die as confirmed townie with unconfirmed role.

It's the big Red Target from D1 that will come back like mojo. Still for me the game is played. Just realising town will never be united. No problem it's been fun.

[SoN!c]

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=JfKNS ... fKNSWT68og

[DirtyDishSoap]

[strike wolf]

So anyway, I think Ragian had a good idea to analyze some of the vote patterns.

[SoN!c]

Hahhahhahaaa - you and me could have been friends! - maybe in the next life

[SoN!c]

And If one of you mafia scum doens't kill me tonight im gonna be such a PAIN on D'4 - i promise!!

[SoN!c]

@Reggie: They are expecting Reggie to die as confirmed townie with unconfirmed role...

So, viking blood, are you okay for to die softly in the night or do you go out firing all guns alamo style jajajaaaaa?