Prison Mafia TOWN WIN !!

[joshzam]

Also i think i already revealed my role.

Please refresh our memories. I can't find it anywhere.

[joshzam]

Did you give it to someone else?

I got one. I didn't think it would help town, so I haven't used it.

degaston, when did you receive a taser?

[Dunk90]

[quote="Maxleod"]Dunk, why did you want to give Pepe a taser? He's been mostly silent, so why him? Did you have some info that we don't? Though that was a good idea (alas for nothing). Did you give it to someone else?[/quo

For some reason I thought he might use it on Pixar during the night. I made it clear I did not like him having the shank. Bad choice. I guess Pixar got to him first. I wasn't allowed to give it to anyone else. I still have it

[*Pixar*]

Dunk, why did you want to give Pepe a taser? He's been mostly silent, so why him? Did you have some info that we don't? Though that was a good idea (alas for nothing). Did you give it to someone else?[/quo

For some reason I thought he might use it on Pixar during the night. I made it clear I did not like him having the shank. Bad choice. I guess Pixar got to him first. I wasn't allowed to give it to anyone else. I still have it

Already stated I didn’t kill PePe, I did jmac.

[Dunk90]

Edit: @dunk

And what made you think Pepe would have protected you?

Not so much me but anyone. I was getting good vibes from Pepe. I figured he was Town. I was correct about that. I probably gave it to the wrong guy. I didn't help much

[joshzam]

Dunk, why did you want to give Pepe a taser? He's been mostly silent, so why him? Did you have some info that we don't? Though that was a good idea (alas for nothing). Did you give it to someone else?[/quo

For some reason I thought he might use it on Pixar during the night. I made it clear I did not like him having the shank. Bad choice. I guess Pixar got to him first. I wasn't allowed to give it to anyone else. I still have it

Dunk, simply assuming that Pepe would use the taser on Pixar doesn't make any sense. Help clear this up, please.
Explain exactly why you think you weren't allowed to give the taser to anyone else.
How many tasers have you given out in total? And to whom?

[joshzam]

Obviously responsible for all the hair turning white people around here...

D1: pershy, chanakam2020 and what you think is Maxleod
D2: PepeAtila
D3: joshzam

The above people all visited Pixar the Ghost at night and were silenced the next day as a result.
pershy claims to be a Hypnotist, so he was supposedly trying to get Pix to publicly claim his role the next day.
chanakam2020 was a confirmed Town Eavesdropper, so he wanted to learn if Pix met with at least one other player that night.
Maxleod... we have no idea why he visited Pix.
PepeAtila was a confirmed Town Bodyguard, so he wanted to protect Pix from being killed that night.
I was given a shank and tried to kill Pix because I didn't believe his role. I do now, though not necessarily his alignment.

pershy, Max, and I are still alive and could be lying. One of us could have been attempting a Mafia hit on Pix.

That line of "what you think is Maxleod" is still bugging me...

[degaston]

Did you give it to someone else?

I got one. I didn't think it would help town, so I haven't used it.

degaston, when did you receive a taser?

On N2.

There's nothing useful about a taser. If it reduced the lynch count, then maybe, if used on the right person.
Otherwise, it just makes a mess of things, because silenced players are not usually lynched. They can't defend themselves, claim, or say what they know.
If it's used on a townie, then they can't vote. If used on scum, then it would make them seem like a victim.

[fusibaseball]

If Degaston confirms receipt of a taser, we know Dunk's entire storyline is corroborated and truthful. He is Town Electrician. We can also infer Andrei is likely being truthful about his receipt of a taser then and his role I have found on Mafia.gg as well. I'll let him say that specifically when he likes or you can spend the time hunting for it. Now I don't think that implies Andrei is actually town but he has at least provided specific detail and claimed which is saying more than half the group.

This is the first time I've checked the thread in 24 hours and not surprised to see no further detail from Max regarding his night activities or role. We are on Day 5...if I don't have any idea what role you are or what you've done across five nights I'm voting you in a heartbeat.

[fusibaseball]

Why would Max visit Pixar night 1? To determine if he was Town or 3rd Party based on his activity.

Why would Max visit Pepe night 4? To determine if he was Town or 3rd Party based on his activity.

Both nights he targeted those players most suspicious of 3rd party allegiance.

I don't recall atm what he's claiming he did N2 or N3.

[fusibaseball]

The Dukasaur/pershy alliance is my top suspicion at the moment, but I could also explore a Darin/Dunk/i-andrei triangle of collusion if anyone wants to go down that rabbit hole with me.

I was considering this triangle a bit too in my head earlier today. The only "streams" outside the triangle are Darin's visitation of my kill onto LC being largely confirmed by this point and Andrei's inadvertent kill onto Law night 1 (a truly unfortunate event in hindsight).

Degaston confirming receipt of a taser from Dunk though provides another "spoke" off the wheel I guess you could say. So I'm leaning back away from that.

[Maxleod]

Why would Max visit Pixar night 1? To determine if he was Town or 3rd Party based on his activity.

Why would Max visit Pepe night 4? To determine if he was Town or 3rd Party based on his activity.

Both nights he targeted those players most suspicious of 3rd party allegiance.

I don't recall atm what he's claiming he did N2 or N3.

I visited Pixar N1 for no other reason that he was the first on the list of players.
I visited Ragian N2, I don't really remember why.
I visited fusi N3 and Pepe N4 because I suspected they might be the target of an assassination attempt; nothing with fusi, Pepe was shanked.

[Dunk90]

Dunk, why did you want to give Pepe a taser? He's been mostly silent, so why him? Did you have some info that we don't? Though that was a good idea (alas for nothing). Did you give it to someone else?[/quo

For some reason I thought he might use it on Pixar during the night. I made it clear I did not like him having the shank. Bad choice. I guess Pixar got to him first. I wasn't allowed to give it to anyone else. I still have it

Dunk, simply assuming that Pepe would use the taser on Pixar doesn't make any sense. Help clear this up, please.
Explain exactly why you think you weren't allowed to give the taser to anyone else.
How many tasers have you given out in total? And to whom?

It might not make sense but that is what happened. I had no idea how to properly use a taser. I thought others might. So I passed them to who I thought were town to help. Guess they haven't so far. I've passed one to Andrei, Degaston and attempted to pass to Pepe. Those were my only night actions. I still have the 3rd one because the night was over after Pepe was found dead. I couldn't pass to anyone else.Does anyone want the 3rd one? Have to wait till tomorrow night.

[Dunk90]

Did you give it to someone else?

I got one. I didn't think it would help town, so I haven't used it.

degaston, when did you receive a taser?

On N2.

There's nothing useful about a taser. If it reduced the lynch count, then maybe, if used on the right person.
Otherwise, it just makes a mess of things, because silenced players are not usually lynched. They can't defend themselves, claim, or say what they know.
If it's used on a townie, then they can't vote. If used on scum, then it would make them seem like a victim.

My thinking exactly.

[Dukasaur]

vote Dunk90

My 1st choice of who to be pressured for a full claim etc.

Dunk90 had my spidey senses tingling from the opening bell.

Vote Dunk90

[Dukasaur]

If we're going to prioritize a list of people to pressure for claims, here's my list of chummy-to-scummy:
joshzam
fusibaseball
degaston
i-andrei
Ragian
Dunk90
Darin44
*Pixar*
Maxleod
pershy
Dukasaur

I trust fusi and degaston 100%.

I would want a full claim from Dukasaur before anyone else. Generally quiet. We have zero idea of his night actions. Never voted D2. Never voted D3. And I don't believe that silly mind control claim of pershy's. I think they're scum buddies. But pershy has already claimed (when he was expressly told not to by Ragian), so I want Dukasaur to spill the beans. Who is he and what has he been up to for the entire game??

Vote Dukasaur

The Dukasaur/pershy alliance is my top suspicion at the moment, but I could also explore a Darin/Dunk/i-andrei triangle of collusion if anyone wants to go down that rabbit hole with me.

Don't know why I'm tops on your list. But you're the second person who has put me there. If one more of the fully trustworthy ones asks me to claim, I'll do it.

[joshzam]

I would want a full claim from Dukasaur before anyone else. Generally quiet. We have zero idea of his night actions. Never voted D2. Never voted D3. And I don't believe that silly mind control claim of pershy's. I think they're scum buddies. But pershy has already claimed (when he was expressly told not to by Ragian), so I want Dukasaur to spill the beans. Who is he and what has he been up to for the entire game??

Vote Dukasaur

The Dukasaur/pershy alliance is my top suspicion at the moment, but I could also explore a Darin/Dunk/i-andrei triangle of collusion if anyone wants to go down that rabbit hole with me.

Don't know why I'm tops on your list. But you're the second person who has put me there. If one more of the fully trustworthy ones asks me to claim, I'll do it.

You don't know why, and yet I just dedicated an entire paragraph to explaining why. Nice.

Can everyone please share your top Mafia suspects! A complete chummy-to-scummy list with reasons would be best, but at the very least your top 3 so we can pressure for claims. Dukasaur has shared nothing this entire game and apparently won't unless more people pressure him. Let's get this game moving. I feel like we're zeroing in on the final scum.

[joshzam]

vote Dunk90

My 1st choice of who to be pressured for a full claim etc.

Dunk90 had my spidey senses tingling from the opening bell.

Vote Dunk90

Dunk has claimed Town Electrician - a role completed described on Mafia.gg, and his abilities can be corroborated by both i-andrei and degaston. If you don't believe the individual accounts of any of these people, then a vote on Dunk makes sense. But it you're scum and flailing desperately, by all means hop on the vote train started by your scum buddy pershy, also in the face of all logic. Dunk voted on D2 to lynch halrob - the only lynching of proven scum that we have. Guess who didn't vote for halrob on D2? Dukasaur. Neither did pershy, but he was silenced after suspiciously visiting Pixar, as I'm sure he'll point out.

[joshzam]

Did you give it to someone else?

I got one. I didn't think it would help town, so I haven't used it.

degaston, when did you receive a taser?

On N2.

There's nothing useful about a taser. If it reduced the lynch count, then maybe, if used on the right person.
Otherwise, it just makes a mess of things, because silenced players are not usually lynched. They can't defend themselves, claim, or say what they know.
If it's used on a townie, then they can't vote. If used on scum, then it would make them seem like a victim.

My thinking exactly.

Totally agree that the taser itself can do more harm than help but, as you can see now, the simple ability of being about to hand them out is a very helpful exercise for proving your role and alignment. As long as you don't hand one out to scum by mistake. Same with the shanks.

[joshzam]

Why would Max visit Pixar night 1? To determine if he was Town or 3rd Party based on his activity.

Why would Max visit Pepe night 4? To determine if he was Town or 3rd Party based on his activity.

Both nights he targeted those players most suspicious of 3rd party allegiance.

I don't recall atm what he's claiming he did N2 or N3.

I visited Pixar N1 for no other reason that he was the first on the list of players.
I visited Ragian N2, I don't really remember why.
I visited fusi N3 and Pepe N4 because I suspected they might be the target of an assassination attempt; nothing with fusi, Pepe was shanked.

Looks like you did a lot of "visiting", Max. I'd feel a lot more comfortable with you if I knew the real intention of your "visits". Care to share what your actual night ability is? I doubt you were just visiting. This is a Power Mafia game, so we all have abilities. Yours is apparently investigative in nature, and yet you haven't shared any intelligence. That's not a good look if you really are Town.

[Maxleod]

Why would Max visit Pixar night 1? To determine if he was Town or 3rd Party based on his activity.

Why would Max visit Pepe night 4? To determine if he was Town or 3rd Party based on his activity.

Both nights he targeted those players most suspicious of 3rd party allegiance.

I don't recall atm what he's claiming he did N2 or N3.

I visited Pixar N1 for no other reason that he was the first on the list of players.
I visited Ragian N2, I don't really remember why.
I visited fusi N3 and Pepe N4 because I suspected they might be the target of an assassination attempt; nothing with fusi, Pepe was shanked.

Looks like you did a lot of "visiting", Max. I'd feel a lot more comfortable with you if I knew the real intention of your "visits". Care to share what your actual night ability is? I doubt you were just visiting. This is a Power Mafia game, so we all have abilities. Yours is apparently investigative in nature, and yet you haven't shared any intelligence. That's not a good look if you really are Town.

Uh,I did share all the intel I got:

N1 Pixar was not alone (visited by others who were silenced just like me).
N4 I saw fusi and dunk enter Pepe's cell, and found him shanked when I looked.

N2 and N3 I didn't see nor learn anything.

[joshzam]

Why would Max visit Pixar night 1? To determine if he was Town or 3rd Party based on his activity.

Why would Max visit Pepe night 4? To determine if he was Town or 3rd Party based on his activity.

Both nights he targeted those players most suspicious of 3rd party allegiance.

I don't recall atm what he's claiming he did N2 or N3.

I visited Pixar N1 for no other reason that he was the first on the list of players.
I visited Ragian N2, I don't really remember why.
I visited fusi N3 and Pepe N4 because I suspected they might be the target of an assassination attempt; nothing with fusi, Pepe was shanked.

Looks like you did a lot of "visiting", Max. I'd feel a lot more comfortable with you if I knew the real intention of your "visits". Care to share what your actual night ability is? I doubt you were just visiting. This is a Power Mafia game, so we all have abilities. Yours is apparently investigative in nature, and yet you haven't shared any intelligence. That's not a good look if you really are Town.

Uh,I did share all the intel I got:

N1 Pixar was not alone (visited by others who were silenced just like me).
N4 I saw fusi and dunk enter Pepe's cell, and found him shanked when I looked.

N2 and N3 I didn't see nor learn anything.

Oh, but you did learn something. You're claiming that Rage was alone on N2, and that fusi was alone on N3. That information helps corroborate their claims. As long as you offering this information came before they publicly shared it. If you shared this info after they stated it publicly, your "info" is useless and possibly suspect. I'll have to check the timeline to see which that was...

[joshzam]

Also, Max, it's interesting that you visited Pix on N1 and were able to get results of your action before you were silenced.
I "visited" Pix and was incapacitated before I was able to perform my night action.
pershy claims to have been unable to perform his night action on Pix.

Just interesting, that's all...

[Maxleod]

Also, Max, it's interesting that you visited Pix on N1 and were able to get results of your action before you were silenced.
I "visited" Pix and was incapacitated before I was able to perform my night action.
pershy claims to have been unable to perform his night action on Pix.

Just interesting, that's all...

My night action IS to visit. Sometimes I will learn some things, some times there's simply nothing to see there... Doesn't seem that hard to understand...

[Dunk90]

Duk, Pershy, and Pixar are my top three scum suspects.

Too many conflicting stories. Too many suspicious claims and attacks on townies.

I’ve suspected Pixar and Duk all along. But the fact that Pershy and Duk want to lynch me after NUMEROUS proofs of me being town have been provided is shady as hell.

Right now VOTE LYNCH DUKASAUR