Prison Mafia TOWN WIN !!

[degaston]

@ i-andrei

My night action was successful and I learned that YOU are not Mafia.

Someone mentioned that I was late on D2 to vote for Halrob which might point toward scum. That was me sitting back and watching the game play. As a new player, I'm just trying to follow what is going on.

On another note, I have a suspicion that one of the mafia is posing as town. I'm not sure who, but Maxleod, pershy, and Ragian are on that list, in no particular order.

FP by Duk

So you are also claiming to be a cop? Is there some difference between your role and Bax's?

I don't know how what I said makes you think I'm a cop. But no, I'm not a cop. I don't know what a cop's role is to compare but I'm allowed to ask a question every night.

A cop finds out if someone is mafia or not. That seems to be what you are finding out. Is your question answered by Razor or by a player? Are you just asking if someone is mafia?

[Razorvich]

MOD EDIT: Maxleod deleted post
Author: Maxleod
Subject: Re: Prison Mafia DAY 4
https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewt ... 6#p5283668

And now I'm receiving death threats... Who's currently in possesion of that shank again? Come. Have at me. What's left of town, you'll know who to lynch.

What death threats?
Pixar said he has the shank

"To be killed by a shank would be a rough way to end your time here, wouldn't it?
You haven't done much to prove to me you bleed town. DO BETTER"

[Razorvich]

DAY 4 POST COUNT #1

14 - *Pixar*
13 - Darin44
16 - degaston
03 - Dukasaur
03 - DukeHazzard
04 - Dunk90
09 - fusibaseball
24 - i-andrei
joshzam - Is speaking gibberish curled up under the stairs crying
14 - Maxleod
08 - PepeAtila
08 - pershy
41 - Ragian
00 - TheJMac

_______________________________________

DAY 4 VOTE COUNT #1

Darin44 - Ragian
Dunk90 - *Pixar*
Maxleod - *Pixar* - Ragian - TheJMac

[DukeHazzard]

@ i-andrei

My night action was successful and I learned that YOU are not Mafia.

Someone mentioned that I was late on D2 to vote for Halrob which might point toward scum. That was me sitting back and watching the game play. As a new player, I'm just trying to follow what is going on.

On another note, I have a suspicion that one of the mafia is posing as town. I'm not sure who, but Maxleod, pershy, and Ragian are on that list, in no particular order.

FP by Duk

So you are also claiming to be a cop? Is there some difference between your role and Bax's?

I don't know how what I said makes you think I'm a cop. But no, I'm not a cop. I don't know what a cop's role is to compare but I'm allowed to ask a question every night.

A cop finds out if someone is mafia or not. That seems to be what you are finding out. Is your question answered by Razor or by a player? Are you just asking if someone is mafia?

I'm concerned that I'm going to get killed if I divulge to much information. Kinda already think I've stuck my neck too far out there.

[TheJMac]

Votes for me are ill placed. Anyone voting heavy right now should be looked at. All the votes turned up to kill town, anyone that voted that turned out to be town killed should be looked at.

Looking from the thread, *pixar* sticks out to me. *Pixar* has voted early and heavy since day1 to get someone out

VOTE Pixar

[*Pixar*]

Doesn’t make sense to have the only possible Night Safe member lynched. Lets say I was 3rd party or Scum. Don’t you think Immune to Night Killing, Sending messages day and night, silencing people if visited at night and now you think IM KILLING INMATES AT NIGHT? I think a role like that would be hugely unfair for a Scum/3rd Party member. And why are we voting people based on trends of “voting early” especially that of a confirmed Mafia member and General Bax who did not do anything to claim and save himself?

[DukeHazzard]

Votes for me are ill placed. Anyone voting heavy right now should be looked at. All the votes turned up to kill town, anyone that voted that turned out to be town killed should be looked at.

Looking from the thread, *pixar* sticks out to me. *Pixar* has voted early and heavy since day1 to get someone out

VOTE Pixar

Seriously? You don't post for days and you come charging out of the gate like this? Feels scummy to me. I want to see what other people say and if there's agreement, you're at the top of my lynch list for D4.

[Ragian]

@Pepe, why didn't you vote halrob D2?

@Darin, why didn't you vote halrob D1?

You need to get your story straight I voted halro thats why I voted for him day2

DAY 1 VOTE COUNT #2

*Pixar* - Dunk90 halrob64
TrafalgarLaw01 - Dunk90
Loose Canon - Dunk90
Darin44 - no lynch halrob64
Dunk90 - no lynch
Ragian - halrob64
fusibaseball - halrob64
DukeHazzard - halrob64
degaston - halrob64 halrob64
TheJMac - halrob64

2 - Dunk90
7 - halrob64
1 - no lynch

VOTE COUNT - DAY 2

fusibaseball - halrob64
Darin44 - halrob64
i-andrei - halrob64
Ragian - halrob64
*Pixar* - halrob64

You need 10 votes for a lynch

Well I know that 2 people who want to lynch me a are Mafia, i-andrei we know from being named in the missing email, and 1 other. I am monitoring who is wanting to Lynch me, you better hope you get ten because when the second night comes that's when my power comes in to play

I'm thanking halro was ratting you out

fusibaseball - ?
Darin44 - town
i-andrei - town
Ragian - mafia
*Pixar* - 3 party

I vote Ragian

My apologies. I'll go back and check. It's nice, though, that you vote for me the minute I raise a minimal suspicion about you. Smells like OMGUS to me.
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Just went back looking. I don't know how I missed you on that VC. Unfortunately, being an idiot doesn't equal being mafia. I can only apologise.
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@Pepe, I thought it was obvious to everyone, but hey...thanks for being honest.
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Votes for me are ill placed. Anyone voting heavy right now should be looked at. All the votes turned up to kill town, anyone that voted that turned out to be town killed should be looked at.

Looking from the thread, *pixar* sticks out to me. *Pixar* has voted early and heavy since day1 to get someone out

VOTE Pixar

Seriously? You don't post for days and you come charging out of the gate like this? Feels scummy to me. I want to see what other people say and if there's agreement, you're at the top of my lynch list for D4.

Interesting. It seems sort of ironic to vote for someone because "heavy voting" (which I presume is voting a lot, but I'm not sure) is a sin.

[degaston]

I'm concerned that I'm going to get killed if I divulge to much information. Kinda already think I've stuck my neck too far out there.

Perhaps you did stick your neck out too far, but no one forced you to. i-andre wasn't in danger of being lynched, but you decided to volunteer that he was confirmed town. If you can confirm someone as town, then you've already claimed an investigative role, whether it's called cop or something else.

Why aren't you naming the one's that you couldn't confirm as town?
Since this night action was successful, you should now have a day action. Is it useful? Are you going to use it? Will it be obvious if you do?

You brought this up, so you're already a target. (if you're telling the truth) I think you need to explain a bit more if we're to believe you.

[i-andrei]

I'm concerned that I'm going to get killed if I divulge to much information. Kinda already think I've stuck my neck too far out there.

Perhaps you did stick your neck out too far, but no one forced you to. i-andre wasn't in danger of being lynched, but you decided to volunteer that he was confirmed town. If you can confirm someone as town, then you've already claimed an investigative role, whether it's called cop or something else.

Why aren't you naming the one's that you couldn't confirm as town?
Since this night action was successful, you should now have a day action. Is it useful? Are you going to use it? Will it be obvious if you do?

You brought this up, so you're already a target. (if you're telling the truth) I think you need to explain a bit more if we're to believe you.

I don't really trust that without previous night actions.
If I'm mafia and i know there was a failed kill attempt, i can impersionate being a cop to make whoever else is still protecting to use the ability on me

[i-andrei]

MOD EDIT: Maxleod deleted post
Author: Maxleod
Subject: Re: Prison Mafia DAY 4
https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewt ... 6#p5283668

And now I'm receiving death threats... Who's currently in possesion of that shank again? Come. Have at me. What's left of town, you'll know who to lynch.

What death threats?
Pixar said he has the shank

Also why would Max delete this? Then he comes out voting for Jmac.


"To be killed by a shank would be a rough way to end your time here, wouldn't it?
You haven't done much to prove to me you bleed town. DO BETTER"

[Ragian]

MOD EDIT: Maxleod deleted post
Author: Maxleod
Subject: Re: Prison Mafia DAY 4
https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewt ... 6#p5283668

And now I'm receiving death threats... Who's currently in possesion of that shank again? Come. Have at me. What's left of town, you'll know who to lynch.

What death threats?
Pixar said he has the shank

Also why would Max delete this? Then he comes out voting for Jmac.


"To be killed by a shank would be a rough way to end your time here, wouldn't it?
You haven't done much to prove to me you bleed town. DO BETTER"

Are you asking the highlighted bit, i-andrei? The post is a bit confusing.

[i-andrei]

Yes, my bad

[Ragian]

I can't answer that for you. You'll have to ask Max that.

[DukeHazzard]

I'm concerned that I'm going to get killed if I divulge to much information. Kinda already think I've stuck my neck too far out there.

Perhaps you did stick your neck out too far, but no one forced you to. i-andre wasn't in danger of being lynched, but you decided to volunteer that he was confirmed town. If you can confirm someone as town, then you've already claimed an investigative role, whether it's called cop or something else.

Why aren't you naming the one's that you couldn't confirm as town?
Since this night action was successful, you should now have a day action. Is it useful? Are you going to use it? Will it be obvious if you do?

You brought this up, so you're already a target. (if you're telling the truth) I think you need to explain a bit more if we're to believe you.

With my inexperience, maybe I should have kept it to myself. I-andrei wasn't in any danger. But I thought we were supposed to give what info we had to further the cause. For the record, I didn't say he was town. I only know he isn't Mafia.

I can see how wording can cause problems now, being a noob... I should have said that I "found out" that I-andrei wasn't mafia. Not that my night action was "successful". I don't have a day action. My night action was technically "unsuccessful" but it did reveal the info.

[degaston]

I'm concerned that I'm going to get killed if I divulge to much information. Kinda already think I've stuck my neck too far out there.

Perhaps you did stick your neck out too far, but no one forced you to. i-andre wasn't in danger of being lynched, but you decided to volunteer that he was confirmed town. If you can confirm someone as town, then you've already claimed an investigative role, whether it's called cop or something else.

Why aren't you naming the one's that you couldn't confirm as town?
Since this night action was successful, you should now have a day action. Is it useful? Are you going to use it? Will it be obvious if you do?

You brought this up, so you're already a target. (if you're telling the truth) I think you need to explain a bit more if we're to believe you.

With my inexperience, maybe I should have kept it to myself. I-andrei wasn't in any danger. But I thought we were supposed to give what info we had to further the cause. For the record, I didn't say he was town. I only know he isn't Mafia.

I can see how wording can cause problems now, being a noob... I should have said that I "found out" that I-andrei wasn't mafia. Not that my night action was "successful". I don't have a day action. My night action was technically "unsuccessful" but it did reveal the info.

You seem very evasive about this, and didn't answer most of my questions. I'll try again.

1. On D2, when asked if you learned anything from N1, you said "Nothing I didn't already know".
   Who did you target?
   What is it that you learned that you already knew?
2. On D3, you said you were 0/2 on your night actions", but if successful, you get a day action.
   Who did you target on N2?
   What would constitute success?
   What day action would you get?
3. Today you reported that you learned that i-andre was not mafia, but now you are saying that it was still an unsuccessful night action.
   Did you target i-andre to learn this, or someone else?

[Maxleod]

I found a new note in my cell. Whoever you are I don't understand what you're trying to say/do here.

[i-andrei]

I found a new note in my cell. Whoever you are I don't understand what you're trying to say/do here.

Max, are you gonna tell us why you deleted the message and then came out voting for Jmac

[Maxleod]

I found a new note in my cell. Whoever you are I don't understand what you're trying to say/do here.

Max, are you gonna tell us why you deleted the message and then came out voting for Jmac

I'm not sure why... I guess I changed my mind. Anyway, it was reposted afterwards so I don't think it matters. I've already explain why I voted for Jmac - because of Dukasaur vouching for him even though he hadn't the time to read this thread. So if one of them turns out to be Scum, the other one must be Scum as well, right?
That being said I'll happily vote *Pixar* or Ragian if that's what we're heading toward.

[i-andrei]

I found a new note in my cell. Whoever you are I don't understand what you're trying to say/do here.

Max, are you gonna tell us why you deleted the message and then came out voting for Jmac

I'm not sure why... I guess I changed my mind. Anyway, it was reposted afterwards so I don't think it matters. I've already explain why I voted for Jmac - because of Dukasaur vouching for him even though he hadn't the time to read this thread. So if one of them turns out to be Scum, the other one must be Scum as well, right?
That being said I'll happily vote *Pixar* or Ragian if that's what we're heading toward.

That's rarely true.

[DukeHazzard]

I'm concerned that I'm going to get killed if I divulge to much information. Kinda already think I've stuck my neck too far out there.

Perhaps you did stick your neck out too far, but no one forced you to. i-andre wasn't in danger of being lynched, but you decided to volunteer that he was confirmed town. If you can confirm someone as town, then you've already claimed an investigative role, whether it's called cop or something else.

Why aren't you naming the one's that you couldn't confirm as town?
Since this night action was successful, you should now have a day action. Is it useful? Are you going to use it? Will it be obvious if you do?

You brought this up, so you're already a target. (if you're telling the truth) I think you need to explain a bit more if we're to believe you.

With my inexperience, maybe I should have kept it to myself. I-andrei wasn't in any danger. But I thought we were supposed to give what info we had to further the cause. For the record, I didn't say he was town. I only know he isn't Mafia.

I can see how wording can cause problems now, being a noob... I should have said that I "found out" that I-andrei wasn't mafia. Not that my night action was "successful". I don't have a day action. My night action was technically "unsuccessful" but it did reveal the info.

You seem very evasive about this, and didn't answer most of my questions. I'll try again.

1. On D2, when asked if you learned anything from N1, you said "Nothing I didn't already know".
   Who did you target?
   What is it that you learned that you already knew?
2. On D3, you said you were 0/2 on your night actions", but if successful, you get a day action.
   Who did you target on N2?
   What would constitute success?
   What day action would you get?
3. Today you reported that you learned that i-andre was not mafia, but now you are saying that it was still an unsuccessful night action.
   Did you target i-andre to learn this, or someone else?

Yes, I'm evasive about this. Everyone is withholding information but expects everyone else to give it. You already have all the information I have. Except how I got it. That doesn't seem good enough... even when I say I don't want to paint a target on my back, yet here you are. What's your superpower??

[degaston]

Yes, I'm evasive about this. Everyone is withholding information but expects everyone else to give it. You already have all the information I have. Except how I got it. That doesn't seem good enough... even when I say I don't want to paint a target on my back, yet here you are. What's your superpower??

If you've been reading the thread, you'd know that my power is already out there, it has been confirmed by several players, and it would make no sense for a non-town to have that power. I would have preferred that it stayed quiet a while longer, but josh decided to reveal it. I tried to make a very subtle claim to it, but it was too subtle and Ragian made an incorrect assumption about it. At that point, I revealed my part in it because I thought it would hurt town more to be hunting scum based on incorrect information.

As for you, you chose to paint a target on your back when you claimed to know that i-andre was not mafia, even though neither of you was under any serious suspicion at the time.
So far, you have only given very vague, and somewhat conflicting hints about your power:

• You're not a cop, but you're able to learn if someone is not mafia.
• You get a day power if you're successful, but "unfortunately", you've had 3 unsuccessful night actions, so there's no way to prove that it's true.
• Even though your night actions were all unsuccessful, you still learned something from at least two of them.
• One result was so important that you had to share it right away, the other was something you already knew, but is apparently so secret that you still won't reveal what it is.
• Other people have revealed who they targeted on previous nights, but you feel that would make you even more of a target.

I would prefer not to keep going on about this If you're town, but I am not aware of any role that has your combination of semi-claimed powers. You say I have all the information you have, except how you got it, but none of my questions were asking you specifically about your power, and yet you didn't answer any of them. Scum are fond of making claims that can't be proven true, but can't be easily refuted either. And they HATE getting into specifics. That seems to fit your actions pretty well at this point.

I don't think answering those questions or revealing your role will make you a bigger target than you've already made yourself. (Assuming you're actually a target at all)
Vote DukeHazzard

[DukeHazzard]

I'm concerned that I'm going to get killed if I divulge to much information. Kinda already think I've stuck my neck too far out there.

Perhaps you did stick your neck out too far, but no one forced you to. i-andre wasn't in danger of being lynched, but you decided to volunteer that he was confirmed town. If you can confirm someone as town, then you've already claimed an investigative role, whether it's called cop or something else.

Why aren't you naming the one's that you couldn't confirm as town?
Since this night action was successful, you should now have a day action. Is it useful? Are you going to use it? Will it be obvious if you do?

You brought this up, so you're already a target. (if you're telling the truth) I think you need to explain a bit more if we're to believe you.

With my inexperience, maybe I should have kept it to myself. I-andrei wasn't in any danger. But I thought we were supposed to give what info we had to further the cause. For the record, I didn't say he was town. I only know he isn't Mafia.

I can see how wording can cause problems now, being a noob... I should have said that I "found out" that I-andrei wasn't mafia. Not that my night action was "successful". I don't have a day action. My night action was technically "unsuccessful" but it did reveal the info.

You seem very evasive about this, and didn't answer most of my questions. I'll try again.

1. On D2, when asked if you learned anything from N1, you said "Nothing I didn't already know".
   Who did you target?
   What is it that you learned that you already knew?
2. On D3, you said you were 0/2 on your night actions", but if successful, you get a day action.
   Who did you target on N2?
   What would constitute success?
   What day action would you get?
3. Today you reported that you learned that i-andre was not mafia, but now you are saying that it was still an unsuccessful night action.
   Did you target i-andre to learn this, or someone else?

but none of my questions were asking you specifically about your power

Seems to me that most of your questions are asking specifically about my power

[degaston]

Seems to me that most of your questions are asking specifically about my power

I think we disagree about what kinds of questions are specifically about your power.
I could say that this information probably needs to be shared eventually anyway if town is going to figure out who is scum.
Or I could say that since you placed a target on your back by revealing that you could identify someone as non-mafia, it is your duty to town to reveal what you have discovered before the scum kill you.
But aside from all that, you haven't even answered the questions that you didn't claim were asking about your power.

But let's try this one, since you already shared this kind of information:

PM From Raz N1 - Night action is negative
PM From Raz D2 - Day 2 is open, no game results
PM From Raz N2 - Night action is negative

What was your PM from Raz for N3 and D4?

[DukeHazzard]

Seems to me that most of your questions are asking specifically about my power

I think we disagree about what kinds of questions are specifically about your power.
I could say that this information probably needs to be shared eventually anyway if town is going to figure out who is scum.
Or I could say that since you placed a target on your back by revealing that you could identify someone as non-mafia, it is your duty to town to reveal what you have discovered before the scum kill you.
But aside from all that, you haven't even answered the questions that you didn't claim were asking about your power.

But let's try this one, since you already shared this kind of information:

PM From Raz N1 - Night action is negative
PM From Raz D2 - Day 2 is open, no game results
PM From Raz N2 - Night action is negative

What was your PM from Raz for N3 and D4?

You should be a cop in real life...

The PM from Raz on N3 is where I found out that i-andrei isn't scum. The PM from Raz D2 was not related to my ability. That was me stating that Raz sent out a PM (I'm assuming to all) that D2 way open. He did the same for D4 which also has nothing to do with my ability. The reason I mentioned the D2 PM is because Raz never sent out a D3 notice. I was only trying to explain why I missed the first 3 or so days that D3 was open.