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Yeah. If we're talking about fairness, I don't think it'd be fair to clans who are in the second division to put S&M in there. We're back at full strength after last winter's events. People would be mad at us.Nut Shot Scott wrote: I'm not getting into it again. But normal 2 division rules don't have S&M in SD
We're a first division level clan. Always have been. 
LHDD was in SD a few years ago. last CL caff remade his clan so it could restart in SD. There are always clans that are obviously PD clans in SD.Shannon Apple wrote:Yeah. If we're talking about fairness, I don't think it'd be fair to clans who are in the second division to put S&M in there. We're back at full strength after last winter's events. People would be mad at us.Nut Shot Scott wrote: I'm not getting into it again. But normal 2 division rules don't have S&M in SD
Awol is a legit clan…neck and neck against ATL that beat LHDD…you left ATL to join tofu? Going to stick with the small guy here…but maybe bigger e-peen guy who knows?Caymanmew wrote:LHDD was in SD a few years ago. last CL caff remade his clan so it could restart in SD. There are always clans that are obviously PD clans in SD.Shannon Apple wrote:Yeah. If we're talking about fairness, I don't think it'd be fair to clans who are in the second division to put S&M in there. We're back at full strength after last winter's events. People would be mad at us.Nut Shot Scott wrote: I'm not getting into it again. But normal 2 division rules don't have S&M in SD
Scott knows this, he just doesn't care because he isn't in a clan that has to deal with PD beating them up every CL leaving no hope for any kind of victory.
ScaryTeded just came off 8 months of 7 -10 hours days Had 2 months of 40 Hrs week rest and bam back to 5 -10 hour days and 8 on Sat will see what I can do .josko.ri wrote:Then LOTZ, where is ScaryTeded?Keefie wrote:BOB and RA are pretty much finished. All their leaders are inactive.josko.ri wrote:It would be nice to also see LOTZ BOB and/or RA in to have all divisions with at least 6 clans.
Ya, I agree, mostly at least, which is why having only two divisions would suck for clans who are nowhere close to that level. 3 is ideal as it splits the groups well. Clans like LION, AWOL, REP, LOW are going to have to fight hard to get to the top of SD and earn their way into PD. That battle will only improve those clans and put you in the best chance to compete with the PD clans, which are a step above, even if it is a smaller step then between SD and TD. TD clans will also have the chance to face competition at their level, letting them improve and taste victory, something they haven't had the chance to do in events outside of the invitational cup 1 and 2.MTIceman41 wrote:Awol is a legit clan…neck and neck against ATL that beat LHDD…you left ATL to join tofu? Going to stick with the small guy here…but maybe bigger e-peen guy who knows?Caymanmew wrote:LHDD was in SD a few years ago. last CL caff remade his clan so it could restart in SD. There are always clans that are obviously PD clans in SD.Shannon Apple wrote:Yeah. If we're talking about fairness, I don't think it'd be fair to clans who are in the second division to put S&M in there. We're back at full strength after last winter's events. People would be mad at us.Nut Shot Scott wrote: I'm not getting into it again. But normal 2 division rules don't have S&M in SD
Scott knows this, he just doesn't care because he isn't in a clan that has to deal with PD beating them up every CL leaving no hope for any kind of victory.
Again from previous thought if S&M is in secondary division
I would agree that division 1-2 has no real competitive differential honestly with a motivated S&M and competitive d2
lmao whatCaymanmew wrote:last CL caff remade his clan so it could restart in SD
Agree with caf 100%iAmCaffeine wrote:lmao whatCaymanmew wrote:last CL caff remade his clan so it could restart in SD
the biggest internal argument we had for not remaking was because we would have to play SD again when we wanted to play PD
in hindsight we should've stuck with ICON but we're beyond that now
That's what I like about it, too. Feels more challenging. The original Clan League was 15 clans in 3 divisions.rockfist wrote:I like the three divisions because as a top clan you have an actual threat of being relegated. With 8 or 10 teams in a first division it was difficult to do.
and each Division was mixed abilites drawn from a hat. If I recall correctly the group winners and runners up then formed more divisions in the 2nd phase.groovysmurf wrote:That's what I like about it, too. Feels more challenging. The original Clan League was 15 clans in 3 divisions.rockfist wrote:I like the three divisions because as a top clan you have an actual threat of being relegated. With 8 or 10 teams in a first division it was difficult to do.
tho I was pretty swamped recently too. 
i did. that's why i made the games 2-3hrs before deadline.i-andrei wrote:No we didn't spot that
We predicted this would be an issue, as even when people say they read something, it often doesn't mean they did. We sent a reminder out a few days ago and agreed to be more lax for this first round to help get people used to the new rule. In hindsight, we probably should have bolded and colored it in the OP as well.IcePack wrote:(Note I’m in favor of the new rule just commenting to point this out)
I know everyone “read and understood” the rules, but I’m a little surprised that the game creation / invite / filling rule was changed and not really mentioned or highlighted.
Granted I’m not the war organizer for REP so it really doesn’t impact me, but the last however many CL’s allowed games exchanged / created by Sunday and until Thursday to invite / fill.
This CL seems to be the first that have changed the requirement to fully invited on Sunday, and there doesn’t seem to be much commentary or discussion or highlighting of the fact in the OP that there’s been a change.
Only pointing this out because I wasn’t even aware of it until I saw Groovy commentary in the CL threads that it had even changed. And again, I like the “hard sunday” rule, just a little surprised it wasn’t announced beyond changing a line that looks nearly identical to the last one but wasn’t.
Hopefully the clan contacts are better at me at catching the details
Good luck everyone in the league!
It’s no different than a tournament where you get X chances to accept an invite but that first is a warning? But it’s not unlimited, but that’s why old style rules was must be joined / filled by deadline. Then it’s on you to evaluate as war organizer to make on final day and risk the invite or do a da early and meet deadline and have took yo breathe.Donelladan wrote:I don't really understand how it's an improvement.
Many clans sometimes have a player not taking an invite.
Are we going to give them warning because one player missed his invite ?
LHDD always create game with invite at the same time ( and I'm sure most people do the same because it's faster), but sometimes we have player missing or declining.
As heavily debated in another clan war thread, majority of people seems to think what matter is to know which maps and settings you'll have to play on away games, not which players. Enforcing this just seem an extra burden on war organizer.
The rule just says invited right not filled? So in this case it would be fine?iAmCaffeine wrote:yeah i/we do it at the same time also because it's just more efficient but what if someone happens to miss their invite for that day
then they accept monday
what happens?
