Meno71 and Middleton [IP]

[shoop76]

Accused:

meno71
middleton


The accused are suspected of:

Conducting Secret Diplomacy


Game number(s):

Game 21449343
Game 21449345



Comments: They are helping each other win by taking out each other's targets.

Game 21449343 In this game Meno has to eliminate Nibotha. In round 4 middleton takes out a 5 stack and a 1 from Nibotha on the right side of the board leaving him with 3 troops in the center. He had at least 3 options to take a single elsewhere on the board. On his next turn Meno clears Nibotha to win the game.

Game 21449345 Here Middleton has me as his target. Here Meno takes me out of Jakarta leaving me isolated (4 territories right next to each other). On his turn Middleton runs the board.

[nibotha]

This is a tournament that cost 500 CC credits to enter per player with decent prizes. We all waited a long time for it to start and I was looking forward to it.
If OBVIOUS CHEATING goes unpunished, I request being withdrawn from this tournament and my 500 in credits returned.

[Donelladan]

Bad play in assassin game is almost the rule.
Both accused have more than 10 000 games played, only 39 in commons.

Seems unlikely they know each other.

[riskllama]

This is a tournament that cost 500 CC credits to enter per player with decent prizes.
If OBVIOUS CHEATING goes unpunished, I request being withdrawn from this tournament and my 500 in credits returned.

[Nut Shot Scott]

nibotha is the greatest player in CC history though. he couldn't possibly lose unless his opponent is cheating.

[IcePack]

Waiting on reply from the accused.
Thanks

[meno71]

Is this a joke?

[meno71]

Did anyone bother to look at 9345 and see that, in the turn where I attacked Jakarta (supposedly to throw the game and lose on purpose), I played a set and then went after ABN PFDR, who was my target? And who was on Bangkok, which I had to go through Jakarta to get to?

And my set included Perth, so I got a two army bonus on there to work off of?

Look at the damn map. My target ended the game with one territory that had two armies on it. That’s because when my turn started he had four territories. I did a small deployment in Mexico City to take him out in Bogota, and put the rest in Perth so I could go north from there and try to hit Bangkok, Yakutsk and Magadan, which would have eliminated him.

[nibotha]

nibotha is the greatest player in CC history though. he couldn't possibly lose unless his opponent is cheating.

Thanks for your sarcasm that added nothing to this whatsoever. Weren't you trying to be a Mod but got declined for intentionally turn missing which is against the rules?

I have never claimed that the only way I can lose is when opponents cheat whereas you ALWAYS blame the dice for your multiple losses, against me, at least - this has been invariably true.

[Deanos75]

HA...that is some defense mounted by meno71! (and Donelladan)...methinks the accussed will be acquitted and then file for damages?

[meno71]

Keep checking back thinking there might be an “Oops my bad” from the two people who made this allegation...

[shoop76]

I apologize if I am wrong. Looking at the game Meno is talking about it does look like her actually went for the win. At first look it seemed very strange and the first game, especially, still does, where Middleton takes 2 territories from Nibotha that give him absolutely no advantage. When looking at it initially it seemed like they were helping each other out. Now it may just appear to be very poor play in assassin games by Middleton.

Again, I apologize to Meno71 if I am wrong.

[nibotha]

Ditto the above - apologies if I am wrong. I just saw I was suicided into in two assassin games in the same tournament. I reached out to the player in question who didn't reply.
Shoop then thought he spotted memo returning the favour to help Middleton but also Middleton's play helped Shoop kill me in another assassin game.
I only assumed it was cheating as Middleton hasn't played like a chef when I have faced him heads up.
Perhaps it's all a coincidence and Middleton is just one of the worst players in assassin format on the site...?
Anyways - it's just a game and apologies to both of you if all of this was just terrible play by Middleton!
Peace out everyone.
Nibs

[IcePack]

I'm still monitoring / waiting on reply from Middleton.

[IcePack]

Middleton has ignored repeated requests for comment, and as his play was suspect I'm going to note it. I dont think he threw on purpose for Meno71, but just in general the play doesn't make sense. It'll be noted in case something similar comes up in the future similar to this.

Meno71 has been cleared, the play makes sense as described / outlined in the log.