general cod [ES]

[b00060]

Accused:
general cod

The accused are suspected of:
Other: Literally holding me hostage round after round. Pardon the language in game chat but he is being a complete asshole instead of ending the game rounds ago.

Game number:
Game 20170120

[rockfist]

Yeesh that looks pretty obvious.

[McDodge]

Yeah, that's pretty clear cut being an asshole and bullying. If it were trench I would understand. That's just being a jerk face

[Nut Shot Scott]

just a little D.A. but the first time, homeboy was hidden behind a neutral and if you give benefit of the doubt - he could have been making sure when he came through that neutral there wasn't something waiting for him. when boobird started being a dick in chat, my guess would be codfish decided to be a dick in game. not excusing either behavior but i don't think one helped the other, if you know what i'm saying.

side note, cod, how come games don't ever go like that when we team up?

[b00060]

just a little D.A. but the first time, homeboy was hidden behind a neutral and if you give benefit of the doubt - he could have been making sure when he came through that neutral there wasn't something waiting for him. when boobird started being a dick in chat, my guess would be codfish decided to be a dick in game. not excusing either behavior but i don't think one helped the other, if you know what i'm saying.

side note, cod, how come games don't ever go like that when we team up?

Great theory, except it is NOT fog, and he has been doing it for rounds including taking out neutrals instead of finishing me, which is why I spoke up. He has had me outnumbered as much as 65 to 1 and could have taken out my 5 singles in one turn, so no, he is not worried about running into a hidden stack and no, he is did not just start holding me hostage after I said something.

[Nut Shot Scott]

just a little D.A. but the first time, homeboy was hidden behind a neutral and if you give benefit of the doubt - he could have been making sure when he came through that neutral there wasn't something waiting for him. when boobird started being a dick in chat, my guess would be codfish decided to be a dick in game. not excusing either behavior but i don't think one helped the other, if you know what i'm saying.

side note, cod, how come games don't ever go like that when we team up?

Great theory, except it is NOT fog, and he has been doing it for rounds including taking out neutrals instead of finishing me, which is why I spoke up. He has had me outnumbered as much as 65 to 1 and could have taken out my 5 singles in one turn, so no, he is not worried about running into a hidden stack and no, he is did not just start holding me hostage after I said something.

lol right. i wasnt thinking about the fog part ha. fair enough. taken back.

[Shannon Apple]

Yeah, it's neither fog, nor trench, so Cod is doing it on purpose.

BUT... it's a clear cut case of sore loser as well. That game chat is funny as heck.

[general cod]

Well well well.... yes i am possibly guilty of dragging the game out but only last 2 rounds, let it be known if a player starts acting like a prick then he should be treated as such. Maybe the chap has some crap going on in his life which he uses cc to vent his anger, who knows... His language was unnecessary and i have done nothing wrong. I am very happy to resolve the issue over lunch and a cold beer, i want so much to be real good friends.

[b00060]

Well well well.... yes i am possibly guilty of dragging the game out but only last 2 rounds, let it be known if a player starts acting like a prick then he should be treated as such. Maybe the chap has some crap going on in his life which he uses cc to vent his anger, who knows... His language was unnecessary and i have done nothing wrong. I am very happy to resolve the issue over lunch and a cold beer, i want so much to be real good friends.

Everyone can take one look at that game and see that at 75 men to 1 this game was over rounds ago, even with you attacking all of the neutrals. Mods can check the game logs and see you are lying here and could have won several rounds ago. You said it yourself, if you are going to act like a prick then you should be treated as such, which is why I called you out for it. Don't break the rules, and yes, holding someone hostage is breaking the rules, and you won't get treated as such. Oh yeah and Prick, suck on that loss in the Escalating Extravaganza Tournament, I know that is why you are so bitter.

[riskllama]

LOL & i just got foed by association...

[general cod]

Bitter? I'm not even sure what tourney you are talking about. Take a look at yourself mate ... Calling me out? Is this a joke ... i am 'the accused' really ? You are nuts my good man and i have already spent too much time responding to what is no more than a bad losers petulance.

[riskllama]

b00060 = butthurt loser...

[b00060]

b00060 = butthurt loser...

This coming from his little buddy who has come to defend his cheating ways. Your words are so hurtful little buddy. I apologize if your partner is an asshole, but good thing he has you to come to his aid. Riskllama, the true hero!

[riskllama]

how have i "aided" cod in here?

[2dimes]

75 to 1 could go either way with the dice here.

[Jdsizzleslice]

By the time of this initial report it the game had only reached Round 8.

You could argue the accused is a huge dick but is this really holding hostage with such a low round count in the game at the time of the post? Even now it's round 9...

Seems to me like FAMO. I would be mad as well. Not sure this is holding hostage.

Just my personal opinion.

[Kotaro]

Once again, b00060 brings out the best in people.

Have you ever tried treating others how you want to be treated? Just curious, your need to flame people in chat and then cry when they are mean to you in game is a bit pathetic, might try not being yourself for awhile, see if that helps.

[general cod]

His claims are wildly exaggerated, his language offensive and this has gone beyond silly.

[BoganGod]

b00060 = butthurt loser...

This coming from his little buddy who has come to defend his cheating ways. Your words are so hurtful little buddy. I apologize if your partner is an asshole, but good thing he has you to come to his aid. Riskllama, the true hero!

Llama's spit, this one thinks he is spitting truth. Though in the language of some of our more fruity mouthed old world brethren, Llama is a gobshite.

[Evil Semp]

Accused:
general cod

The accused are suspected of:
Other: Literally holding me hostage round after round. Pardon the language in game chat but he is being a complete asshole instead of ending the game rounds ago.

Game number:
Game 20170120

I don't think this is a hostage game. He did attack you in most rounds. He took his time. Could he have finished the game sooner? He probably could have.

I am going to NOTE this because I think he did drag it out. I am also going to NOTE this for b00060 for game throwing. In my opinion b00060 didn't make any attempt to win this game.

[Evil Semp]

llama and Bogan

This isn't the playground so no more name calling.

[2dimes]

Internet turn based strategy games, serious business.

[b00060]

That is bullshit absolute bullshit Semp. Go back and look at the logs, I had nowhere to attack and he had a bonus after round one. If you are going to site me for throwing the game, go back at the logs and tell me exactly how I could have done anything different. He had a juge stack against my territories from round one and I could not attack at ALL. For you to say i threw the game is complete bullshit. He had a stack of 60 to take out 4 territories of singles and drug it out. Complete bullshit finding Semp, complete bullshit!

[Evil Semp]

That is bullshit absolute bullshit Semp. Go back and look at the logs, I had nowhere to attack and he had a bonus after round one. If you are going to site me for throwing the game, go back at the logs and tell me exactly how I could have done anything different. He had a juge stack against my territories from round one and I could not attack at ALL. For you to say i threw the game is complete bullshit. He had a stack of 60 to take out 4 territories of singles and drug it out. Complete bullshit finding Semp, complete bullshit!

With the way the dice are on this site I would think you would have given it a try. At least for the first round or two. I know we all have had games that we thought we had a sure win or loss and the outcome turned out the opposite.

[Jdsizzleslice]

That is bullshit absolute bullshit Semp. Go back and look at the logs, I had nowhere to attack and he had a bonus after round one. If you are going to site me for throwing the game, go back at the logs and tell me exactly how I could have done anything different. He had a juge stack against my territories from round one and I could not attack at ALL. For you to say i threw the game is complete bullshit. He had a stack of 60 to take out 4 territories of singles and drug it out. Complete bullshit finding Semp, complete bullshit!

Let's break down the ruling. Keep in mind that no WARNINGS were issued, but two NOTES were given.

1. Holding Hostage generally happens with a very long round count of the game being unable to end when it should have been. I had a previous ruling where the accused was banned for one month in the end for holding me hostage for 35 rounds in a 50 round game. A game that completed with 10 rounds hardly constitutes holding someone hostage, unless they got dropped all territories except for the one that you were on on Round 1 (which can't happen). You stopped taking territories after round 8, so there are only 2 rounds until the game ended that you were not able to make a valid attack. You have a strong argument that cod is a dick but besides that nothing else.

2. Game throwing generally happens when a player makes no attempt to actually play the game. In the game mentioned in this report, you never once attacked the other player (according to the game log). You, on multiple occasions, took the Resetting Neutrals and deployed on adjacent territories to them. You can make an argument that it was tactical to have these resetting neutrals in the game but you can also make the argument that you never attempted to actually play the game.

Again, no warnings were given. So there is really no need to freak out here. Just take this as a learning lesson and apply that to further encounters you have in the future.

I hope this clarifies the ruling.

Jd