I noticed in looking at the Brecon vote tallies that UKIP was still on the ballot, separate from the Brexit Party. If UKIP still exists, why did Farage consider it necessary to start a new Brexit Party?
After the Brexit referendum Farage stepped down as leader of UKIP, and when he came back he noticed the party had been taken over by neo-nazi hooligans. Farage didn't want to associate with these people so he had to found a new party.
Thanks.
I kinda suspected it would be something like that.
“Life is a shipwreck, but we must not forget to sing in the lifeboats.” ― Voltaire
I noticed in looking at the Brecon vote tallies that UKIP was still on the ballot, separate from the Brexit Party. If UKIP still exists, why did Farage consider it necessary to start a new Brexit Party?
After the Brexit referendum Farage stepped down as leader of UKIP, and when he came back he noticed the party had been taken over by neo-nazi hooligans. Farage didn't want to associate with these people so he had to found a new party.
Thanks.
I kinda suspected it would be something like that.
Honestly, Duk as you're someone who's advocated for someone who celebrates Nazis with SS in there name somehow meaning "Southern States", you accepting this lame excuse for Nigel Farage is nothing new,
the world is in greater peril from those who tolerate or encourage evil than from those who actually commit it- Albert Einstein
I don't think you can be too right-wing for Nigel. Here's a little something about the AfD, a German party with which he is very close.
The AfD, which rejects immigration and Islam, is on course to become the first hard-right nationalist party to enter the country's parliament in the post-World War II era, now polling around five to 10 percent.
Its leaders have sparked outrage by saying German border guards should open fire on illegal immigrants "if necessary", labelling Berlin's Holocaust memorial a "monument of shame" and suggesting a Turkish-origin German politician be "disposed of in Anatolia".
The bit I didn’t understand is why he brought Anne Widecombe on board as one of their MEPs. Her comments about gay conversion therapy in particular mark her out as a straight up UKIP 14th century-er.
I got my new UK passport today. It no longer says 'European Union' on the front cover, and the pages now contain a variety of patriotic pictures celebrating the UK. WINNING.
mrswdk wrote:I got my new UK passport today. It no longer says 'European Union' on the front cover, and the pages now contain a variety of patriotic pictures celebrating the UK. WINNING.
mrswdk wrote:I got my new UK passport today. It no longer says 'European Union' on the front cover, and the pages now contain a variety of patriotic pictures celebrating the UK. WINNING.
Printed in France right ?
Yup. Just because we're leaving the EU doesn't mean we have to stop giving Europeans a few British pennies to do our menial tasks for us.
The UK Government confirms that once the summer recess ends in September it will be immediately suspending all Parliamentary activities, so that Remain Traitor MPs can't table legislation aimed at disrupting Brexit before the PM's October 31 deadline for leaving the EU:
Everything according to plan. The UK will crash out at the end of October. We'll have an Irish re-unification. Scotland will leave. Wales is coming around. Divide and Conquer at its best.
A small step towards restoration of trust in politicians.
That's not really an explanation. This is a serious question. How do you feel Brexit benefits you?
For decades now politicians in the UK have gotten away with simply ignoring the views of the UK's undesirables and leaving them to fester in their dilapidated small towns, where they are unable to influence anything. The referendum finally gave those people a chance to exert themselves and they told the government to go f*ck itself. Allowing Brexit to be thwarted would mean allowing the Westminster bubble clique who don't care what the little people think to win. Pushing Brexit through would be a sign that maybe the UK Government can listen to its people* and that it does actually plan to genuinely address those people's situations**. I am praying that Brexit will not be undermined and praying that it will happen in fairly even measures.
Plus if the anti-Brexit traitors win and people start to feel like they really do have no stake in society, I imagine things like the London Riots would become a more common recurrence. And that would probably push the price of nice consumer goods up and also disrupt the buses, both of which are bad for me.
A small step towards restoration of trust in politicians.
That's not really an explanation. This is a serious question. How do you feel Brexit benefits you?
For decades now politicians in the UK have gotten away with simply ignoring the views of the UK's undesirables and leaving them to fester in their dilapidated small towns, where they are unable to influence anything. The referendum finally gave those people a chance to exert themselves and they told the government to go f*ck itself. Allowing Brexit to be thwarted would mean allowing the Westminster bubble clique who don't care what the little people think to win. Pushing Brexit through would be a sign that maybe the UK Government can listen to its people* and that it does actually plan to genuinely address those people's situations**. I am praying that Brexit will not be undermined and praying that it will happen in fairly even measures.
Well, I agree with you about the last part. While I think Brexit was a stupid idea, I think it would be far worse to let the government renege on its promise to honour the referendum. In the end, respect for the rule of law and for democratic institutions is more important than any single policy they might promulgate. Once the government put the question to a vote, that vote needs to be respected.
However, the kind of giddy cheer-leading you've been doing seems to be far beyond respect for the process. You seem to be pleased about the thing itself, independently of the process. Which is what I'm trying to get at. The thing itself, not how it came about. Never mind the importance of respecting the voters and respecting the referendum process -- I already know I agree with you on that. The prospect of re-erecting trade barriers with Europe and standing in a long line at Customs -- why does that please you?
“Life is a shipwreck, but we must not forget to sing in the lifeboats.” ― Voltaire
waauw wrote:Everything according to plan. The UK will crash out at the end of October. We'll have an Irish re-unification. Scotland will leave. Wales is coming around.
Dream on. Ireland really doesn't want an ulcer ... wait I spelled it wrong replace the c with an st ... there that's better.
Scotland won't leave, not for another hundred years (that's how long they will debate over it).
Wales ... still waiting for the next king to get that sword from the lady of the lake.
A small step towards restoration of trust in politicians.
That's not really an explanation. This is a serious question. How do you feel Brexit benefits you?
For decades now politicians in the UK have gotten away with simply ignoring the views of the UK's undesirables and leaving them to fester in their dilapidated small towns, where they are unable to influence anything. The referendum finally gave those people a chance to exert themselves and they told the government to go f*ck itself. Allowing Brexit to be thwarted would mean allowing the Westminster bubble clique who don't care what the little people think to win. Pushing Brexit through would be a sign that maybe the UK Government can listen to its people* and that it does actually plan to genuinely address those people's situations**. I am praying that Brexit will not be undermined and praying that it will happen in fairly even measures.
Well, I agree with you about the last part. While I think Brexit was a stupid idea, I think it would be far worse to let the government renege on its promise to honour the referendum. In the end, respect for the rule of law and for democratic institutions is more important than any single policy they might promulgate. Once the government put the question to a vote, that vote needs to be respected.
However, the kind of giddy cheer-leading you've been doing seems to be far beyond respect for the process. You seem to be pleased about the thing itself, independently of the process. Which is what I'm trying to get at. The thing itself, not how it came about. Never mind the importance of respecting the voters and respecting the referendum process -- I already know I agree with you on that. The prospect of re-erecting trade barriers with Europe and standing in a long line at Customs -- why does that please you?
I'm just pleased that the complacent system has been given a kick. It was long overdue one. I don't really care what form the kick has taken, just so long as it has landed. A nice hard Brexit would be this kick landing square in Parliament's face (hopefully - MPs seem adept at interpreting every single thing that ever happens as a sign that they are right).
I also have an EU passport regardless of what happens with Brexit, so there'll be no queuing for me
Boris Johnson is stripping the garden of weeds and shaping his party into a Brexit piledriver!
After tonight's vote in Parliament, 21 Conservative MPs who have shown their true colours by voting with opposition parties in favour of delaying Brexit yet again have been kicked out of the Conservative Party.
Thanks to their treachery the Government is now forced to hold a general election and put the vote to the people. This does, however, give Boris the chance to build a party truly aligned around democracy and truly committed to leaving the EU on October 31st.
Except their whole argument for the last three years has been that no deal would be a disaster and that is why they are trying to legislate to make a no deal impossible/continue kicking the can down the road.
If they just gave in and stopped trying to prevent no deal then they are either admitting that they would rather play politics than run the country/stand by their principles, or they are admitting that they are completely incompetent politicians incapable of delivering what they say they will. Either way they'd get demolished in any subsequent election.
Johnson has snookered them. For years they've been saying the government has been screwing up and there should be an election. Now Johnson has forced a situation that allows him to prune all the party members who are working to thwart him, have an election while blaming it on those rebels and the opposition (so that the public don't get pissed at him for holding it), and then reset with a big Parliamentary majority that is 100% on board with his objectives.
Corbyn can see that and is already trying to wriggle out of it by saying he supports an election but only if legislation to delay Brexit is passed first.
