Resign button - Extension ( Revised by ADMIN)

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Resign button - Extension ( Revised by ADMIN)

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[spoiler=original suggestion]Concise description:

Extend the resign button to all trench games.

Specifics/Details:

Currently you can only have a resign button if the game you are playing is a trench game and a speed game ( and 1vs1 or poly).
I think it is time we extend the resign button to 24h trench game as well.
So far, since the resign button have been implemented, not one C&A case have been opened because of this button. And to my knowledge no one complained publicly about the resign button. I therefore consider it is a success, and it should be extended to other settings.

Also, I think we should include 2vs2, 3vs3 and 4vs4 games to the games that can be resigned.

EDIT :

Concerning team games :

If a resign button was implemented for team games ( trench ) the resignation should be effective only if ALL members of the team click on the resign button.
Just in case someone comes here and tell me it could be an issue with people resigning games they are winning : if someone wants to lose a game he does NOT need a resign button to lose, he can do it by himself already, a resign button does not change anything to that.

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:

Trench games are games that can reach a point where both players ( teams) know that the game is over but there is still many turns to be played before the end of the game. Allowing trench players to resign when it is obvious that a victory is impossible will improve the satisfaction of the people playing trench, will avoid that players deadbeat or that they become bored playing many turns in a already decided games.




EDIT :

"Accept button"
( accepting opponent's resignation )

The purpose of this suggestion is primarily to extend the resign button from trench speed game to other settings namely 24 trench speed games ( 1vs1; poly, and maybe teams).

As can be read below it has been suggested to make the resign button more acceptable by everyone that once a player resigned, this must be accepted by his opponent, so that a player that wish to play the game till the end cannot be prevented to do so.

Please also discuss the possibility to modify the current resign system so that the opponent of the resigning player get the possibility to refuse or accept the resignation.[/spoiler]

The admin is approving following suggestion ( still to be discussed here) :

Extension of the resign feature from speed game to casual game.

Previous restrictions still apply, i.e. :

  • 2 Player games only ( 1vs1 and poly)
  • Round must be 10 or higher for the resign button to appear in 1vs1
  • Round must be 6 or higher for the resign button to appear in polymorphic games
  • Must be Trench


Additional restrictions :


  • For non-tournament games only, de facto excluding all clan games as well
  • The resigning player must have less than half the army count of their opponent.


Note : For now, the accept button discussed in the "original" suggestion will not be considered, mainly because it may create as many problem as it solves.
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This should not get implemented for team games
I see you are back to walling everyone
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An excellent idea. There's nothing worse than having to endure, especially on the bigger maps a long and drawn out loss, when the game is obviously over!
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IcePack wrote:This should not get implemented for team games
I see you are back to walling everyone


People aren't forced to voice support, I inform them without prior knowledge of their opinions. If they disagree they can also say so. If everyone I wall'ed bring support, it means there is huge community support behind this suggestion. ( ofc I only informed people actually playing trench).

Concerning team game, just wondering, for real, don't you think your clan mate playing USA 2.1 quad and triple trench against FOED would agree at some point a resign button might be nice ?
I didn't said so in my suggestion, but obviously if it is implemented for team games, it should require that every member of the team click on resign before resignation is effective.
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I agree with all stated here.
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I vote for it
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I agree and support this, however, not in a team setting only standard or poly.
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I agree with this for all 1v1 and poly games. For team games I support it in principle but we'd need to figure out whether it means just one player resigning or a whole team resigning, and in either case, how that would work.
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+1 for all 1 vs 1's.
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I support the implementation of a resign button for singles trench games.

In team games it might be open to some abuse.
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I agree with all trench games except team games.
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I agree / support
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I agree/support this 100%
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Agree and Support
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To be clear, this suicide-extension is still only being considered for for two player (& two team) games, right?
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Yes Thorthoth.
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Donelladan wrote:
IcePack wrote:This should not get implemented for team games
I see you are back to walling everyone


People aren't forced to voice support, I inform them without prior knowledge of their opinions. If they disagree they can also say so. If everyone I wall'ed bring support, it means there is huge community support behind this suggestion. ( ofc I only informed people actually playing trench).

Concerning team game, just wondering, for real, don't you think your clan mate playing USA 2.1 quad and triple trench against FOED would agree at some point a resign button might be nice ?
I didn't said so in my suggestion, but obviously if it is implemented for team games, it should require that every member of the team click on resign before resignation is effective.


Hey I am gathering support so that we can have a resign button for trench game.
If you could just say you support the suggestion that would help move it forward.
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=225224


You are only asking for their feedback if they support, you aren’t asking a neutral “please give feedback and opinions on this suggestion” you’re steering towards support. If someone doesn’t support it doesn’t tell them to also voice it, so they might not post or ignore if they disagree. See my point?

I have much less objection to 1vs1 / poly, whatever. We’ve argued that to death. But if this is suggesting teams I’m opposed. If that’s even going to be considered there needs to be a lot more details about how it works and ways to prevent abuse and accidental resignations etc.
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I agree with Don on this one. Hopefully we can come to a compromise to continually improving the game we all love :D
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I agree with the button for 1v1 games.... pretty please!
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All for it! Plz implement
Bit concerned on the team games though ... abuse of it can happen ...
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I agree with this request
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Excellent idea, will save days of waiting.
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Post by EASTOFEDEN »

I think all trench games should have a resign button. Even team games. If all teammates can vote to resign I do not see a big potential for abuse. With 100% agreement then a team should be able to resign.

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This MUST not be allowed in clan or tribe games.

Over the years there have been a number of acrimonious splits in clans. Let's say an internal row erupts in a clan and half the clan decide to leave. Do they play out there remaining games in a professional manner or do they all resign in games they would win just to stick it to the other clan members.

I would go as far as saying that we would consider banning trench games from clan wars if this came to fruition.

A very poorly thought out suggestion indeed.
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keefie makes a good point there, but disgruntled members could just tank those games manually if they were that bitter about the clan split, no? maybe just put a rule for clans that forfeits aren't an option? - if it becomes available, that is.
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