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iAmCaffeine
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Re: Some friendly advice.

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andretrepa
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Re: Some friendly advice.

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Hello Friends,

Let me say first of all I am a friend of PaulatPeace’s. I have borrowed this account to make a statement that will hopefully give you some pause to consider what I am about to tell say. I am not Paul himself but am basing what I am going to say on conversations I have had with him and also on basic principles of reasonable conduct and what I have come to recognize as right and wrong. I am not familiar with all that has transpired on this site up to this point except what Paul has told me. I do however know Paul pretty well and believe he is an honest person of integrity. Some of the things I will point out here should be able to be verified on this site. Others should simply appeal to one’s common sense and also the sense of how you would wish to be treated yourself by others. I understand that some of you just don’t like PaulatPeace. Others of you don’t care for the way he would keep on standing up for what he believed in. Whatever your persuasion, all I ask is that you look candidly at what I have to say, and ask yourself if what was done to Paul seems fair and right.

First, let me offer a basic premise most people in free countries all over the globe would agree on. This premise basically says that just because you own a web site, that doesn’t give you free reign to do whatever you wish to people who enter or join the site. This site is owned by a corporation based in California, USA. There are certain standards for corporations based in the USA and certain established protocols which must be adhered to. For example, If you start a restaurant where you present yourself open to the public and sell meals for which patrons pay money, you cannot just treat the people who enter your restaurant any way you want to. You cannot deny them seating because of the color of their skin. When they are seated, if you discover they are a Buddhist or Mormon, you cannot refuse to serve them. If they tell you they don’t care for the tables are arranged or that they don’t like color of the carpet, you cannot just boot them out onto the street.

Possibly, you may see my point here. You can’t just do what you want to the people who visit your business, whether that be a restaurant in this great country, or a gaming site people pay money to join. Things were done to PaulatPeace that should not have been done to anyone here

I will now list some of these things:

- When Paul posted his Farewell remarks using the account of a friend and mentor of his (General Pat), the administration of this site entered General Pat’s account (although they did not have his password) and changed Paul’s words to make fun of him in a mean and ugly way, disparaging his character and distorting what he said. They may have felt justified in what they did and there may be some of you who agree with them, but tell me this, how does it make you feel that the administrators on this site can enter anyone’s account at any time they wish and do or say anything they want to. Your accounts are supposed to be private accounts only you have access to or those you give your password to. Clearly this is not the case and each of you are in jeopardy of this happening to you, your friends or your clan.

- When Paul was prohibited from having access to his account and banned permanently from this site, he was given one reason for this being done. He was told that the mods and admins running this site that they just could not spend their valuable time dealing with him any longer and that he was just too much of a disruption. Ok, I get it that Paul probably said things that threatened their authority and the status quo they had established and wanted to protect. But I have seen some of the posts on this site. I have witnessed the vulgarity, the name calling, the disparaging remarks directed towards Paul and others by many players. So Paul brings up points he feels are relevant and fact based. Even if you don’t share his views or agree with him, does this mean you have the right to take away his access to the account he paid for and ban him from the site because you don’t agree with him? Did Paul use gross profanity on a regular basis. Did he make racist or sexist remarks? Did he ever degrade another player and suggest they be banned from this site because he disagreed with their point of view? No friends, he did not He simply voiced his opinion, which he had a right to do, and as others do all the time.



- Paul was accused of grossly abusing other players on this site by inviting players to games on a map he was proficient at. Those of you not familiar with the accusations may not be aware that Paul was never found guilty of these accusations. It was even stated by the individual making the judgement of his guilt or innocence that all he did was invite higher ranked players to these games and these players were fully capable of refusing to join the games or not. You may also not be aware that with every invitation sent, Paul ALWAYS told everyone that he was very skilled on the map (Antartica) he was inviting them to and offered to answer their questions about the map itself if they had any. Paul had reached the rank of Conqueror at this time and many players would jump at the chance to play a Conqueror. When Paul would win a game he gained an average of about 8 points. When he lost a game (which did happen from time to time) he would lose 45 - 50 points. There are numerous players on this site that specialize in specific maps. When players join games with them they do so willingly and without coercion. They usually lose these games, but it is always their choice and their decision to join the games or not. Paul ultimately was not found guilty, but did receive a warning which he completely followed. Look at the record. Look at the evidence. Although this was not the reason Paul was banned from this site, the way he was treated by his accusers and all the others who jumped on that bandwagon was despicable. Things were said that were blatantly untrue, and all these thing were said while Paul was not even permitted to answer his accusers. So I ask you this, how would you feel if this was done to you? How would you feel if you were accused of abusing players who were by no means newbies to the site and you had been completely honest and straight with when inviting them to games?

- The Clan which Paul created (The Omega Pantheon) has been the most successful clan this last year according to a clan ranking system referred to by this site as the F400 Ranking. For the last
2 ½ years Paul has poured his heart and soul into this clan as it’s founder and chief leader. He spent countless hours developing strategies and methods by which his new clan could rise to the top of the clan world. The principles of Honor & Integrity which were the foundational values this clan was built upon were his values and his inspiration. Yet, when Paul was banned from this site, the administration removed his name as a Leader of his clan and eventually removed his name entirely from the clan roster, all without permission of the current Leaders of his clan. Whether you agree with Paul or not, whether you feel he was dead wrong or justly right, whether you thought he was just a pain in the butt or someone who stood up for what he believed in------- how would you feel if you had poured yourself into the creation and development of a very successful clan, only to be removed from the clan’s records, not by the current clan leaders, but by the site administrators who have no business messing with a clan’s roster?

I pose these sincere questions to you brothers and sisters. Ask yourself how you would feel if this were done to you, or your friends or your clan mates. No matter what you think of an individual, there is a right way everyone deserves to be treated, and then there is the way Paul was treated by this site
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Re: Some friendly advice.

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Sigh, sigh again and then double siiiigghhhh!!!

First off... if i behaved like PaP i would have NO problem with a perma ban! He time and time again were asked to desist in his behaviour by the mods. He didnt... now hes facing the Music! Im totally behind the mods on this, their decision!
So stop whining and LEARN some things! When asked (politly) to stop .. then for Fucks sake STOP! When asked again to stop.... see previous sentence! But NOOOO PaP as to crawl up on the croos and bloody Nail himself there ... AND drag a load of other innocent players into the quagmire with him! Really nice going to ur friends man.... shows integrety!.... IF u wanted to argue ur case i would assume the RIGHT way to do it would by filing an Eticket. I dont Think BigW would be impossible in reinstating u on probhition IF u changed ur ways and grew up!

And as to hacking/taking over accounts ... no bloody way ... they just .. u know copy paste? and rewrite text in a prg called Word and post again? .....

The only reason i dont Think u are PaP is cause u dont post i fat blue letters ...

Seriously ... can we ban everyone who has have any Contact with PaP`and finally get some frigging Peace here and play some GAMES!?
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Re: Some friendly advice.

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Paul is convinced that we can access other peoples accounts. WE CAN'T

What we can do is edit posts in the forums that we have control over.
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Re: Some friendly advice.

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Even I know when I'm pushing the boundaries and when I get a friendly PM from a mod, I fully understand what I've done and, in the majority of circumstances, knew I shouldn't have made the comments before making them. I don't then respond to the PM with a load of bullshit, lies or abuse. It's usually jokes as I'm sure Keefie, IcePack and others can agree. I think Paul's just in denial.
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