[CL8] Premier Div 1st: S&M 2nd: TOP MVP: josko.ri

[emilywink]

so is it these two games deciding it?

Game 17322683 Game 17316709

[Extreme Ways]

so is it these two games deciding it?

Game 17322683 Game 17316709

If S&M wins Game 17313712 they get another point if I'm not mistaken.

[rockfist]

If S&M wins Gallip TOP needs to win both of those, if the lose it TOP needs just one.

[betiko]

So this is not over yet? Looks like we end up with 3/4 points against OSA, and therefore will finish 3rd? I heard at some point that with 4/4 pts we would be champions.. but i really didn t follow..
Top can still beat s&m then?

[xroads]

Yes TOP can still win.

A couple weeks ago, they looked like they were going to loose 3-5 points in the last few rounds. They poured it on and pulled out some loosing games.

So if they win out, they win no matter what. If they loose 1 point to FALL, & S&M wins Gallipoli vs TOFU, S&M wins as they hold a tie breaker in game differential.

[dkmaster]

It is for sure hard conditions to be forced to win 4-0 against both TOFU and FALL, here in the end of CL8, to take down the championship

But no matter what happens, it has been a pleasure to meet you all on the battlefield here in premier division

[IcePack]

Quite the first year congrats to you for performing so well. And congrats to everyone for an even closer finish then the last few lol
I'm not following our games, but hope at least we've been semi competitive (I've only been following the commentary here)

Looking forward to seeing the finish

[The_Samurai]

it looks like 4 more points for RET and 5 more points for ATN, so same number of points for ATN and RET fighting to avoid the relegation, for what it is worth, given that ATN will not take part next year, and we are waiting to hear the proposed new format, if any.

PD Update - Special Thanks to Keefie

[IcePack]

We have been discussing potential different formats and what it might look like behind the scenes. We still have some time before sign ups occur but hopefully we have something well in advance of that to show

[iAmCaffeine]

it looks like 4 more points for RET and 5 more points for ATN, so same number of points for ATN and RET fighting to avoid the relegation, for what it is worth, given that ATN will not take part next year, and we are waiting to hear the proposed new format, if any.

PD Update - Special Thanks to Keefie

If I'm not mistaken ATN will finish above RET on GD.

[Keefie]

Here's the latest table.

Matches not included:

TOP 4 FALL 2
FALL 1 TOP 3
TOFU 3 S&M 4
OSA 3 LHDD 4
TOP 3 TOFU 3

[The_Samurai]

You were right - congrats ATN !

If I'm not mistaken ATN will finish above RET on GD.

[iAmCaffeine]

I almost feel bad since we won't be participating next season, but thanks and well fought. It's kinda funny looking at OSA and PACK with their amount of wins, just a shit load more draws.

[Vid_FISO]

I almost feel bad since we won't be participating next season, but thanks and well fought. It's kinda funny looking at OSA and PACK with their amount of wins, just a shit load more draws.

Open spot then, do RET stay up, do we go up, or will there be a play off?

[shocked439]

I almost feel bad since we won't be participating next season, but thanks and well fought. It's kinda funny looking at OSA and PACK with their amount of wins, just a shit load more draws.

Open spot then, do RET stay up, do we go up, or will there be a play off?

Does caff change mind and they fight hard again?

[iAmCaffeine]

I almost feel bad since we won't be participating next season, but thanks and well fought. It's kinda funny looking at OSA and PACK with their amount of wins, just a shit load more draws.

Open spot then, do RET stay up, do we go up, or will there be a play off?

Does caff change mind and they fight hard again?

It's not solely my decision, but no.

[IcePack]

Thanks for the update Keefie

[djelebert]

It's stretched like a string in the sun...

[gorehound]

Shame we lost more than a fistful of great players during this season, and arrived at rockfist's initial prediction position.
nevertheless, it has been fun , and educational, and we enjoyed most of the less-dice-influenced games.
congrats to the winners in this tight finish and thanks for all the good sportsmanship

gore
A.F.O.S.

[xroads]

Looks like Fallen broke TOPS streak and took a point from them.

Now S&M has to finish Gallipoli to win the championship

[Leehar]

It's been 10 days since the last update. Looks like S&M will win their game, and TOP will only get 1 of the 2 vs FALL, so S&M victors on tie-breaker?

[dlbuilds]

This is PaulatPeace.

I am borrowing a friend’s account to post my fair well message to Conquer Club.

There are several things I would like to address, but before I do I wish to let the Mods & Admins know that if you delete or remove this post, I will re-post it again and again until it remains. You may lock it down, but do not delete or remove it...or you will find your perceived problem will only be compounded. My words will be heard

First, I would like to congratulate all who competed in the CL 8 fairly. It was a honor to meet you on the battlefield. To Josko and S&M, you should be ashamed of yourselves for willfully manipulating the outcome of the USA 2.1 game against TOP. This game was clearly being won by TOP until lies were told about TOP’s sitting practice. This is the truth: TOP has never abused the Clan or site sitting rules as they are written. Yes, a player must always take his own turn when possible, but no one has the right to dictate an exact time when that turn must be taken. Just because a player has been online recently does not mean he has to take a turn in another game at the same time. There was never any plan for one TOP player to take another’s turn deliberately. Emergency sitting is allowed when time is low and this is exactly what occurred. Neither of our players ever said otherwise and TOP would never condone illegal behavior. Conversely, in the remake game one of S&M’s players played only 50% or less of their own turns in the first 4 rounds. This is clearly against the sitting rules. You may believe what you want and make all the negative remarks you wish, but nothing will ever change this truth The Omega Pantheon is the rightful winners of the CL 8...by 2 points. In any given competition one of the top ranked clans could beat us.......but to date they have not. We are undefeated in clan wars and tournaments This is fact

Secondly, I would like to address the reason for my indefinite ban from this site. Many have speculated as to exactly what egregious act I committed to deserve this punishment. Allow me to quote directly from those who imposed this ban:

“ your dispute against the Clan mods or with Icepack....has taken up more time than anyone could handle. This attitude has taken too long to be tolerated and we have reached that point where we had enough. You are hereby banned indefinitely so that you can contemplate your actions.

” Yes friends.............the reason I was banned indefinitely is because the Mods & Admins decided they didn’t want to engage in discussion and debate with me any more. All the other BS and senseless, sometimes vulgar remarks they could tolerate......but respectful discussion and debate that brings to light mistakes and wrongful actions.....this cannot be permitted. The fact the many of the points I brought to light resulted in positive changes in policy does not seem to matter. If I was taking up too much of their time, why not simply ignore me. But to take away my ability to send and receive private messages and wall posts, to remove my ability to play games...in the very middle of some of these games, to take away my ability to even communicate with my clan members in our own Clan forum and to remove me as the founding Leader of The Omega Pantheon.......this is simply wrong

For those of you wondering about the issue accusing me of Gross Abuse in my games in order become Conqueror...let me share with you the exact words of King Achilles regarding this matter:

“No clear rules have been broken here. High ranked players or decent ranked players should know what they are getting into once they get invited. If the invitation was clear enough to tell what is going to happen, then accepting that invite, as a high ranked player, you are also liable for taking it. Does this practice also involved forcing anyone to play these games with him? I can understand the wrongdoing if the accused is targeting new recruits or low ranked players who will likely lose after the game but if we go further with this guideline in also including high ranked players, we are setting a dangerous precedent in telling everyone not to play and send invites in games or maps that we have grown to like. I agree that this kind of practice looks shady but there is also a point where, as a long time high ranked player, we should also be responsible of our own actions when we accept game invites. Let's not look at this report as only about the accused. Setting a precedent like this may also mean that any player who gets most of his points from playing a particular map is on his way of getting reported in the future. We might as well request the webmaster to put a limit on how many times you can play on each map which is not going to happen and no one would like.”

King Achilles communicated with me about his final decision and I abided completely with his ruling. Again, believe what you want, think whatever you will......The truth is I committed no violation of the rules and fully abided by King Achilles ruling

I have been a premium member of Conquer Club for over 7 years. I have even paid for others memberships when they could not afford it. I have actively participated in discussions and made recommendations that would later result in improvements to this site. I have founded one of the most successful Clans in CC history and have devoted countless hours for over 2 years now to help us successfully reach our goals. Although I never really wanted the title, I reached the ultimate rank of Conqueror, with a score that is still higher than those who claim that title now. For these successes and contributions I have been indefinitely banned.

To those of you who I have called friend, I thank you for your fellowship and camaraderie and wish you well in all you do. To those of you who have maligned my name, falsely accused me and participated in wrongdoing against my clan and myself, I forgive you. I will not return to Conquer Club regardless of the lifting of my ban as long as the current owner is in place. It is he who is ultimately responsible for the wrongs that have been committed, and it is clear what his agenda is.

Fair well friends. Live long and prosper.

Omegas Fight As One

PaulatPeace

[GENERAL PAT]

This is PaulatPeace.

I am borrowing a friend’s account to post my fair well message to Conquer Club.

There are several things I would like to address, but before I do I wish to let the Mods & Admins know that if you delete or remove this post, I will re-post it again and again until it remains. You may lock it down, but do not delete or remove it...or you will find your perceived problem will only be compounded. My words will be heard

First, I would like to congratulate all who competed in the CL 8 fairly. It was a honor to meet you on the battlefield. To Josko and S&M, you should be ashamed of yourselves for willfully manipulating the outcome of the USA 2.1 game against TOP. This game was clearly being won by TOP until lies were told about TOP’s sitting practice. This is the truth: TOP has never abused the Clan or site sitting rules as they are written. Yes, a player must always take his own turn when possible, but no one has the right to dictate an exact time when that turn must be taken. Just because a player has been online recently does not mean he has to take a turn in another game at the same time. There was never any plan for one TOP player to take another’s turn deliberately. Emergency sitting is allowed when time is low and this is exactly what occurred. Neither of our players ever said otherwise and TOP would never condone illegal behavior. Conversely, in the remake game one of S&M’s players played only 50% or less of their own turns in the first 4 rounds. This is clearly against the sitting rules. You may believe what you want and make all the negative remarks you wish, but nothing will ever change this truth The Omega Pantheon is the rightful winners of the CL 8...by 2 points. In any given competition one of the top ranked clans could beat us.......but to date they have not. We are undefeated in clan wars and tournaments This is fact

Secondly, I would like to address the reason for my indefinite ban from this site. Many have speculated as to exactly what egregious act I committed to deserve this punishment. Allow me to quote directly from those who imposed this ban:

“ your dispute against the Clan mods or with Icepack....has taken up more time than anyone could handle. This attitude has taken too long to be tolerated and we have reached that point where we had enough. You are hereby banned indefinitely so that you can contemplate your actions.”

Yes friends.............the reason I was banned indefinitely is because the Mods & Admins decided they didn’t want to engage in discussion and debate with me any more. All the other BS and senseless, sometimes vulgar remarks they could tolerate......but respectful discussion and debate that brings to light mistakes and wrongful actions.....this cannot be permitted. The fact the many of the points I brought to light resulted in positive changes in policy does not seem to matter. If I was taking up too much of their time, why not simply ignore me. But to take away my ability to send and receive private messages and wall posts, to remove my ability to play games...in the very middle of some of these games, to take away my ability to even communicate with my clan members in our own Clan forum and to remove me as the founding Leader of The Omega Pantheon.......this is simply wrong

For those of you wondering about the issue accusing me of Gross Abuse in my games in order become Conqueror...let me share with you the exact words of King Achilles regarding this matter:

“No clear rules have been broken here. High ranked players or decent ranked players should know what they are getting into once they get invited. If the invitation was clear enough to tell what is going to happen, then accepting that invite, as a high ranked player, you are also liable for taking it. Does this practice also involved forcing anyone to play these games with him? I can understand the wrongdoing if the accused is targeting new recruits or low ranked players who will likely lose after the game but if we go further with this guideline in also including high ranked players, we are setting a dangerous precedent in telling everyone not to play and send invites in games or maps that we have grown to like. I agree that this kind of practice looks shady but there is also a point where, as a long time high ranked player, we should also be responsible of our own actions when we accept game invites. Let's not look at this report as only about the accused. Setting a precedent like this may also mean that any player who gets most of his points from playing a particular map is on his way of getting reported in the future. We might as well request the webmaster to put a limit on how many times you can play on each map which is not going to happen and no one would like.”

King Achilles communicated with me about his final decision and I abided completely with his ruling. Again, believe what you want, think whatever you will......The truth is I committed no violation of the rules and fully abided by King Achilles ruling

I have been a premium member of Conquer Club for over 7 years. I have even paid for others memberships when they could not afford it. I have actively participated in discussions and made recommendations that would later result in improvements to this site. I have founded one of the most successful Clans in CC history and have devoted countless hours for over 2 years now to help us successfully reach our goals. Although I never really wanted the title, I reached the ultimate rank of Conqueror, with a score that is still higher than those who claim that title now. For these successes and contributions I have been indefinitely banned.

To those of you who I have called friend, I thank you for your fellowship and camaraderie and wish you well in all you do. To those of you who have maligned my name, falsely accused me and participated in wrongdoing against my clan and myself, I forgive you. I will not return to Conquer Club regardless of the lifting of my ban as long as the current owner is in place. It is he who is ultimately responsible for the wrongs that have been committed, and it is clear what his agenda is.

Fair well friends. Live long and prosper.

Omegas Fight As One

PaulatPeace

[hopalong]

reserved.
uh oh ... a 1:11 pm post seems to have vanished!
The Truth is Out There.

[IcePack]