Punching a Nazi

[Symmetry]

Neo-Nazi, Richard Spenser was punched recently. There seems to be some debate as to whether punching him was acceptable or not, I can think of no better place to decide the issue than here.

Punching Nazis? Righteous or Wrongness?

[hotfire]

I assume it happened in a struggle to gain the mating rights to a potential partner and therefore deem it necessary for natural selection

[thegreekdog]

Acceptable in what way and in what context? Seems like Captain America was punching some Nazis because the United States was at war with Germany at the time. As far as I know, we're not at war with Germany now (or with American Nazis). I'm also fairly certain punching is battery, which is a punishable crime. Perhaps we look the other way when a crime is committed and the victim is someone we do not like. That seems consistent with the American values of freedom and liberty - "Your views are not the same as ours, therefore it is okay to punch you."

[mrswdk]

I think the question I'm more curious about knowing the answer too is: why is a British guy living in the UK so invested in US politics that he's sat there fantasizing about assaulting obscure American Neo-Nazis?

[KoolBak]

That seems consistent with the American values of freedom and liberty - "Your views are not the same as ours, therefore it is okay to punch you."

GD, you're such a dork

Quick way to get sued (thank you, attorneys).

I wish we could punch whomever needs punching....just can't do that any more.

So If I see a neonazi holding a door open for some sweet old lady, I don't think he needs punching If I see a NN beating up a small Jewish child, yes I'll punch him in da throat If I see GreekDog wandering the streets screaming about how rotten Americans are, I'd probly just trip him....and accidentally step on his sack while offering to help him back up Then, of course, I'd feel obliged to buy him an ouzo....

[owenshooter]

i feel as if everyone should see the video to keep their responses in context. feel free to post it in your initial post.




the black jesus has helped...-Jésus noir

[thegreekdog]

i feel as if everyone should see the video to keep their responses in context. feel free to post it in your initial post.




the black jesus has helped...-Jésus noir

While I don't condone punching people you disagree with in the context of "hey, you probably shouldn't punch people" and "sometimes people have different views that are racist, mysoginystic, homophobic, etc. and that's not something they should be punched for since we live in what's supposed to be a free society"...

I'm not going to watch a white supremacist or Nazi speak. Sorry. While I believe in his right to freedom of speech and to not get punched, I also believe in my right not to listen to him.

[jonesthecurl]

Acceptable in what way and in what context? Seems like Captain America was punching some Nazis because the United States was at war with Germany at the time. As far as I know, we're not at war with Germany now (or with American Nazis). I'm also fairly certain punching is battery, which is a punishable crime. Perhaps we look the other way when a crime is committed and the victim is someone we do not like. That seems consistent with the American values of freedom and liberty - "Your views are not the same as ours, therefore it is okay to punch you."

It seems that Captain America no 1 was March 1941, when the US was not at war with Germany.

[hotfire]

Everyone knows that Cap is a delinquent.

[mookiemcgee]

Bucky looks like a girl lol.

Symm didn't even share his opinion, classic troll move.

[thegreekdog]

Acceptable in what way and in what context? Seems like Captain America was punching some Nazis because the United States was at war with Germany at the time. As far as I know, we're not at war with Germany now (or with American Nazis). I'm also fairly certain punching is battery, which is a punishable crime. Perhaps we look the other way when a crime is committed and the victim is someone we do not like. That seems consistent with the American values of freedom and liberty - "Your views are not the same as ours, therefore it is okay to punch you."

It seems that Captain America no 1 was March 1941, when the US was not at war with Germany.

Well shit. Dammit jonesy.

Hmm... need a new explanation... perhaps Captain America volunteered for the RAF like many other Americans in 1941. So he was at war with the Germans.

[DoomYoshi]

Is it ok to punch nazis who are in a coma? What about 3 year old nazis?

[whydelilah]

As a sewn in to the olive tree messianic Jew its never right to hit anyone but you should always offer the other cheek. Having said that i'd find it very hard not to kick him in the ballsack after misaligning his jaw. hope this helps your debate

[notyou2]

Racist hate spewing douches deserve to be punched. If you are going to espouse hate, prepare for the consequences. I don't believe in free speech when it's hate mongering. People like that piece of shit can be charged in Canada, Germany, and many other democratic nations that have free speech.

[jonesthecurl]

It's probably OK if the people punching him are white (and not Jewish).

[DoomYoshi]

Related:
https://aeon.co/ideas/how-camus-and-sartre-split-up-over-the-question-of-how-to-be-free

In October 1951, Camus published The Rebel. In it, he gave voice to a roughly drawn ‘philosophy of revolt’. This wasn’t a philosophical system per se, but an amalgamation of philosophical and political ideas: every human is free, but freedom itself is relative; one must embrace limits, moderation, ‘calculated risk’; absolutes are anti-human. Most of all, Camus condemned revolutionary violence. Violence might be used in extreme circumstances (he supported the French war effort, after all) but the use of revolutionary violence to nudge history in the direction you desire is utopian, absolutist, and a betrayal of yourself.

‘Absolute freedom is the right of the strongest to dominate,’ Camus wrote, while ‘absolute justice is achieved by the suppression of all contradiction: therefore it destroys freedom.’ The conflict between justice and freedom required constant re-balancing, political moderation, an acceptance and celebration of that which limits the most: our humanity. ‘To live and let live,’ he said, ‘in order to create what we are.’

[Nola_Lifer]

Bash the Fash

[bigimg]http://anarkiss.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/bash-the-fash1.jpg[/bigimg]

[thegreekdog]

Racist hate spewing douches deserve to be punched. If you are going to espouse hate, prepare for the consequences. I don't believe in free speech when it's hate mongering. People like that piece of shit can be charged in Canada, Germany, and many other democratic nations that have free speech.

I read a lot of hate yesterday from a lot of left-leaning folks. Are you okay if I punch them in the face or do your face-punching standards only extend to hate mongerers who disagree with your viewpoint?

[riskllama]

i'd say the correct response would be to point, laugh & go about your business, no?

[patches70]

Ok, lemme get this straight, it's ok to punch someone who is not engaging in any violent activity, theft or anything else illegal and is instead engaged in political speech and/or exercising their right to assembly so long as one disagrees with that person's speech. Got it.


You guys are silly, and ridonkulous.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Ok, lemme get this straight, it's ok to punch someone who is not engaging in any violent activity, theft or anything else illegal and is instead engaged in political speech and/or exercising their right to assembly so long as one disagrees with that person's speech. Got it.


You guys are silly, and ridonkulous.

But muh feelz!

I'd be interested what the pro-nazi punchers have to say about duels.

-TG

[Symmetry]

A present for TGD, Batman's take, with sound effect:



Masked man punches Nazi, then makes a daring escape from law-enforcement officers seeking the vigilante? What could be more American?

[Borderdawg]

the puncher was a gash. If he had any balls, he would have just verbally provoked the dingus until dingus made the first move, THEN he could have whupped his ass properly, AND filed assault charges on him. (always worked for me anyway, less the filing charges.) But noooo, he sucker punched and ran like a p*ssy. But, that's what libbies do. A neo-nazi and a libbie, and they couldn't muster a full mansack between the two of 'em.

[Symmetry]

the puncher was a gash. If he had any balls, he would have just verbally provoked the dingus until dingus made the first move, THEN he could have whupped his ass properly, AND filed assault charges on him. (always worked for me anyway, less the filing charges.) But noooo, he sucker punched and ran like a p*ssy. But, that's what libbies do. A neo-nazi and a libbie, and they couldn't muster a full mansack between the two of 'em.

You punched a Nazi?

[DoomYoshi]

the puncher was a gash. If he had any balls, he would have just verbally provoked the dingus until dingus made the first move, THEN he could have whupped his ass properly, AND filed assault charges on him. (always worked for me anyway, less the filing charges.) But noooo, he sucker punched and ran like a p*ssy. But, that's what libbies do. A neo-nazi and a libbie, and they couldn't muster a full mansack between the two of 'em.

You punched a Nazi?