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- thegreekdog
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No one yet. Results out around 6am tomorrow.
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So the UK is leaving. Denmark and Sweden will be demanding exit referendums next. The bus just drove into a ditch.
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Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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- Metsfanmax
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How about Scotland?
- WingCmdr Ginkapo
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Metsfanmax wrote:How about Scotland?
What about Scotland. This vote was the whole uk, not parts.
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Out! Cameron is going. A massive blow for the rothschild's and their puppets in the European parliament.
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Definitely either the Netherlands or France.
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WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:How about Scotland?
What about Scotland. This vote was the whole uk, not parts.
Scotland voted to stay!
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Bernie Sanders wrote:WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:How about Scotland?
What about Scotland. This vote was the whole uk, not parts.
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Scotland voted to stay!
Good for them. They are still being dragged out of the EU.
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I'm missing the "none" option. Seems more likely the UK will break up soon rather than the EU. Governments right now are too afraid to even hold referenda, so it seems another exit seems unlikely on the short term. It will probably take an electoral victory of a far right movement to install another referendum.
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- warmonger1981
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Cameron steps down. Fucking quiter.
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waauw wrote:I'm missing the "none" option. The EU, especially France, Italy and the Netherlands will now be forced to push for rapid EU reforms and to install harsh conditions on the UK so as to discredit their own far right opposition parties.
Unfortunately for you the UK knows its position far too well. Drive too high a bargain and we wont contribute to the EU in exchange for access to the single market. And without us, Germany cant carry the EU alone.
Basically the EU is screwed either way.
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WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:waauw wrote:I'm missing the "none" option. The EU, especially France, Italy and the Netherlands will now be forced to push for rapid EU reforms and to install harsh conditions on the UK so as to discredit their own far right opposition parties.
Unfortunately for you the UK knows its position far too well. Drive too high a bargain and we wont contribute to the EU in exchange for access to the single market. And without us, Germany cant carry the EU alone.
Basically the EU is screwed either way.
True, both the EU and the UK are now screwed. There are no winners. Harsh decisions have to be made.
Then again, the EU doesn't have to destroy the British economy. That's in nobody's interest. All they will probably push for is a deal that makes the UK worse off than inside the EU. Personally I think we'll probably end up with a deal somewhere in the middle between what the UK used to get and what Switzerland and Norway get now, a compromise.
Some of the more annoying issues of course are Scotland, Northern Ireland and Gibraltar(to a much less important extent). The more likely it seems one of them is to leave the UK, the less strong the British position, and vice versa. Both the UK and the EU are on the clock now. The UK to dissuade these regions from independency, and the EU to dissuade their own opposition parties. So in a sense it's also a race about which movements develop the fastest.
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WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:waauw wrote:I'm missing the "none" option. The EU, especially France, Italy and the Netherlands will now be forced to push for rapid EU reforms and to install harsh conditions on the UK so as to discredit their own far right opposition parties.
Unfortunately for you the UK knows its position far too well. Drive too high a bargain and we wont contribute to the EU in exchange for access to the single market. And without us, Germany cant carry the EU alone.
Basically the EU is screwed either way.
sorry the EU has never been about the UK... it's about France and Germany since its inception. Have fun as you see your economy collapse!

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waauw wrote:WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:waauw wrote:I'm missing the "none" option. The EU, especially France, Italy and the Netherlands will now be forced to push for rapid EU reforms and to install harsh conditions on the UK so as to discredit their own far right opposition parties.
Unfortunately for you the UK knows its position far too well. Drive too high a bargain and we wont contribute to the EU in exchange for access to the single market. And without us, Germany cant carry the EU alone.
Basically the EU is screwed either way.
True, both the EU and the UK are now screwed. There are no winners. Harsh decisions have to be made.
Then again, the EU doesn't have to destroy the British economy. That's in nobody's interest. All they will probably push for is a deal that makes the UK worse off than inside the EU. Personally I think we'll probably end up with a deal somewhere in the middle between what the UK used to get and what Switzerland and Norway get now, a compromise.
Some of the more annoying issues of course are Scotland, Northern Ireland and Gibraltar(to a much less important extent). The more likely it seems one of them is to leave the UK, the less strong the British position, and vice versa. Both the UK and the EU are on the clock now. The UK to dissuade these regions from independency, and the EU to dissuade their own opposition parties. So in a sense it's also a race about which movements develop the fastest.
The UK should give back Gibraltar to Spain. I'd stop hearing people around here whine about it.

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betiko wrote:WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:waauw wrote:I'm missing the "none" option. The EU, especially France, Italy and the Netherlands will now be forced to push for rapid EU reforms and to install harsh conditions on the UK so as to discredit their own far right opposition parties.
Unfortunately for you the UK knows its position far too well. Drive too high a bargain and we wont contribute to the EU in exchange for access to the single market. And without us, Germany cant carry the EU alone.
Basically the EU is screwed either way.
sorry the EU has never been about the UK... it's about France and Germany since its inception. Have fun as you see your economy collapse!
France? Nothing has ever been about France. Ever
If our economy collaspses, so does yours.
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Why you!
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The United Kingdom did not vote to leave the EU. England did.
Scotland should get another independence referendum and be allowed to stay in.
Not saying it will necessarily lead to a United Ireland, but Northern Ireland also voted to remain, so some things will have to change.
I'm from Dublin, living in Greece, and this result is truly upsetting.
It just proves that there are more dumbass readers of The Sun & Daily Mail in England than there are reasonable intelligent people.
Really, when Marine Le Pen, Donald Trump, The Golden Dawn and various other Neo-Fascists from around the world welcome this result I think it says it all. It's the latest and one of the strongest signs of the rise of nationalism, segregation and hatred around the world.
In the 19th century, a wave of romantic nationalism swept the European continent, transforming its countries.
Just look how that turned out. How quickly we forget.
Scotland should get another independence referendum and be allowed to stay in.
Not saying it will necessarily lead to a United Ireland, but Northern Ireland also voted to remain, so some things will have to change.
I'm from Dublin, living in Greece, and this result is truly upsetting.
It just proves that there are more dumbass readers of The Sun & Daily Mail in England than there are reasonable intelligent people.
Really, when Marine Le Pen, Donald Trump, The Golden Dawn and various other Neo-Fascists from around the world welcome this result I think it says it all. It's the latest and one of the strongest signs of the rise of nationalism, segregation and hatred around the world.
In the 19th century, a wave of romantic nationalism swept the European continent, transforming its countries.
Just look how that turned out. How quickly we forget.
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Conchobar wrote:The United Kingdom did not vote to leave the EU. England and Wales did.
Scotland should get another independence referendum and be allowed to stay in.
52% of people in the UK voted to leave. Drawing a little line around all the areas in which a majority voted Remain doesn't change the fact that the majority of people in the country voted Leave.
Presumably you are also advocating referendums for London, Manchester and other boundaries within which a majority of people voted Remain?
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betiko wrote:The UK should give back Gibraltar to Spain. I'd stop hearing people around here whine about it.
They should give Gibraltar to the Prudential life insurance company. The Rock has been their logo since the 1890's.

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tzor wrote:betiko wrote:The UK should give back Gibraltar to Spain. I'd stop hearing people around here whine about it.
They should give Gibraltar to the Prudential life insurance company. The Rock has been their logo since the 1890's.
They should make Dwayne Johnson the President of Gibraltar.
