[CL7] Premier Division (1. LHDD - MVPs: Donche64, Samdemars)

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Re: [CL7] Premier Division (Last Round Ongoing)

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betiko wrote:Tell me about it... After we lose our home games against GON going straight to a second division relegation.


Yeah sorry about that - had I known I would have told everyone to just let you pass for the win.
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Bantam wrote:
betiko wrote:Tell me about it... After we lose our home games against GON going straight to a second division relegation.


Yeah sorry about that - had I known I would have told everyone to just let you pass for the win.


I m not saying you guys should ve let us win... I m saying we should ve never lost against you guys on our home games. The probability to get seriously dicefucked on most of your games in a serie of just 8 games is reasonably high, and it s going to cost us.
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Looks like we will need to 4-0 tofu after all :(
Pretty confident to win our home games, for the aways it s another story.
Don t have the figures in hand, but I think we re heading towards a fallen victory in this cl7..
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I think we are looking at 2-2. I don't see you beating us in our home games. There is a chance either side could tie the away games but I don't see either side winning the away set.

For some reason we just don't win doubles games. If we played only trips and quads we'd be golden.
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rockfist wrote:I think we are looking at 2-2. I don't see you beating us in our home games. There is a chance either side could tie the away games but I don't see either side winning the away set.

For some reason we just don't win doubles games. If we played only trips and quads we'd be golden.


Being an outsider, I can't tell that there is enough leads to be able to tell the leader in either of the sets (at least the last time i looked).
Its hard to watch something and not know whats going on and have it affect you so much lol

Crazy but exciting finish for sure!
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Bantam wrote:
betiko wrote:Tell me about it... After we lose our home games against GON going straight to a second division relegation.


Yeah sorry about that - had I known I would have told everyone to just let you pass for the win.


A sad commentary on your integrity as a competitor.
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rockfist wrote:
Bantam wrote:
betiko wrote:Tell me about it... After we lose our home games against GON going straight to a second division relegation.


Yeah sorry about that - had I known I would have told everyone to just let you pass for the win.


A sad commentary on your integrity as a competitor.


He was being sarcastic. I think he thought I blamed them for beating us there and found my comment offensive.
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IcePack wrote:
rockfist wrote:I think we are looking at 2-2. I don't see you beating us in our home games. There is a chance either side could tie the away games but I don't see either side winning the away set.

For some reason we just don't win doubles games. If we played only trips and quads we'd be golden.


Being an outsider, I can't tell that there is enough leads to be able to tell the leader in either of the sets (at least the last time i looked).
Its hard to watch something and not know whats going on and have it affect you so much lol

Crazy but exciting finish for sure!


I still hope we can win that third crusade game against ret... Looks like we re good in terms of drop, so even if we re behind we have a chance.

And RF: i haven t checked in a few days, but last time i looked our home games were looking better than your home games.
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You have some small probability of beating us in our home match (I'd be shocked though, but a tie although I still think it improbable would not shock me), we have no probability of beating you in our away match, but a maybe 20% chance or so of a tie.
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Results and standings (R1 to R10) are updated and posted on the first page:

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It looks pretty but I don't think it'll hold.

Still a chance though, just not a strong one.
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rockfist wrote:You have some small probability of beating us in our home match (I'd be shocked though, but a tie although I still think it improbable would not shock me), we have no probability of beating you in our away match, but a maybe 20% chance or so of a tie.


Well we just won conquer 500, so we will definitely have at least 5 points in home ( KCII and Rail South America are over I think we can agree on that).

On your home TOFU, it's 1-0 for you right now, Conquer Rome will be ours so 1-1, and all the other games are still quite undecided, why would you be shoked to see us win or tie ?
On the 6 remaining games I see two in which you have the advantage but nothing decisive yet ( though I don't see through the fog ).Therefore it's a bit uphill for us in your home but far from impossible for us to win them.
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Yesterday I looked and it seemed as though TOFU had slight advantages in a number of the games.
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Home maps are different than away maps. There (usually) aren't tricky ways to climb back into the games that a strong home team aren't aware of, so once your behind you are left with luck to climb back into it. I've said the same thing about your home games in our internal forum - in an even game it favors the home clan. A home clan with a lead should not lose that lead very often. We likely lead in at least two maps, probably three. Of the remaining games 2 are even and one is most likely your lead. You'd have to win both even games, close out your lead where you are ahead and flip a game. That's not likely to happen.
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Well anyways with the home win pretty much secured, TOFU is out of the race and it s between us and FALL.
We need a draw in aways TOFU and win 3rd crusade RET. That seems really complicated at this stage.. So yeah, it's like 90% fallen, 10% lhdd
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betiko wrote:Well anyways with the home win pretty much secured, TOFU is out of the race and it s between us and FALL.
We need a draw in aways TOFU and win 3rd crusade RET. That seems really complicated at this stage.. So yeah, it's like 90% fallen, 10% lhdd

Best of luck to LHDD and Fallen. May the best clan win.
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It ain't over until it's over, but good luck to everyone as this thing wraps up.
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IcePack wrote:It ain't over until it's over, but good luck to everyone as this thing wraps up.


The good thing is that we still depend on ourselves
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Congratulations to Fallen and LHDD.

Although I think there is some scenario where we could finish 2nd...I don't care. Its about winning, but that includes winning games not just the title, so we will fight on to the bitter end.
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rockfist wrote:Congratulations to Fallen and LHDD.

Although I think there is some scenario where we could finish 2nd...I don't care. Its about winning, but that includes winning games not just the title, so we will fight on to the bitter end.


I would expect no less from TOFU!

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rockfist wrote:Congratulations to Fallen and LHDD.

Although I think there is some scenario where we could finish 2nd...I don't care. Its about winning, but that includes winning games not just the title, so we will fight on to the bitter end.


Oh you can definitely finish second, no doubt! What is sure, is that fallen will finish top 2.
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betiko wrote:
IcePack wrote:It ain't over until it's over, but good luck to everyone as this thing wraps up.


The good thing is that we still depend on ourselves


Yes, we just got our work done early. Now we are kicked back with a cold one enjoying the show.

Whatever the outcome, excellent competition.
Good luck TOFU and LHDD, may you split evenly.
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Re: [CL7] Premier Division (Standings Updated)

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we're going to need too many miracles...

1) we need to win these FALL games:
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=16333020
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=16333419

2) we need to win this RET game:
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=16418341

3) if we win the ret game, we need 3/5 of these, if we lose the ret game we need 4/5:
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=16458423
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=16458427
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=16458437
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=16458438
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=16458440

That's when you start thinking of all these games that made you draw rounds instead of giving a victory, or lose instead of draw..
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betiko wrote:That's when you start thinking of all these games that made you draw rounds instead of giving a victory, or lose instead of draw..


Indeed, it made me think of a game where we were winning vs LHDD and two back to back stupid mistakes cost us the game.
Back then it was just a game, but now it was the difference between loss at home and a tie vs LHDD.

Could have had the extra point, which would have been incredibly important and useful now :?
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