Symmetry wrote:Isn't it funny that a bloke who inherited his millions, pumped up by the largest media conglomerate on earth, and front runner for one of the most powerful established political parties the US has ever seen is somehow still managing to con people into thinking he's anti-establishment?
Symmetry wrote:Isn't it funny that a bloke who inherited his millions, pumped up by the largest media conglomerate on earth, and front runner for one of the most powerful established political parties the US has ever seen is somehow still managing to con people into thinking he's anti-establishment?
Yeah, not that funny.
To be honest, it is funny.
Oh...OK....yes. But sadness too, like that how I would feel if I watched that Jerry Lewis movie about the holocaust, maybe. A bit of disgust mixed in.
the world is in greater peril from those who tolerate or encourage evil than from those who actually commit it- Albert Einstein
In 2000, Nelson worked on the Bush for President campaign, where she met her future husband Ted Cruz.[5] Following her marriage to Cruz in 2001, she went on to work for the Bush Administration as a top deputy to U.S. Trade Rep. Robert Zoellick, focusing on economic policy.[17][5][3][18] Cruz eventually became the director for the Western Hemisphere on the National Security Council under National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice in 2003.[17][5][3][16][19] During a New York Times interview, Cruz recalled enjoying her tenure with the Bush administration and found her work to be "personally fulfilling."[20] Cruz has worked for three investment banks, JP Morgan Chase, Merrill Lynch, and Goldman Sachs.[23][2] Wikipedia source
She also was a member of the CFR. She also helped draft NAFTA. She is a globalist.
Well, Trump done fucked up. Said all women that had an abortion should be punished. Even hardcore anti-abortion conservatives were turned off by that comment. He later "recants", but damage has been done.
muy_thaiguy wrote:Well, Trump done fucked up. Said all women that had an abortion should be punished. Even hardcore anti-abortion conservatives were turned off by that comment. He later "recants", but damage has been done.
It's a fair comment. If someone thinks abortion is akin to murder, why punish the abortion doctor but do nothing to the woman who asked for the abortion? Why is the woman absolved of murder while the doctor is still hauled off and thrown in jail?
And also, why is it okay for politician after politician to say that abortion should be outlawed and abortion doctors punished, but as soon as one says the mother should also be punished he's the antichrist?
muy_thaiguy wrote:Well, Trump done fucked up. Said all women that had an abortion should be punished. Even hardcore anti-abortion conservatives were turned off by that comment. He later "recants", but damage has been done.
It's a fair comment. If someone thinks abortion is akin to murder, why punish the abortion doctor but do nothing to the woman who asked for the abortion? And also, why is it okay for politician after politician to say that abortion should be outlawed and abortion doctors punished, but as soon as one says the mother should also be punished he's the antichrist?
mrswdk wrote:It's a fair comment. If someone thinks abortion is akin to murder, why punish the abortion doctor but do nothing to the woman who asked for the abortion? Why is the woman absolved of murder while the doctor is still hauled off and thrown in jail?
It depends. But in general it is the provider of a service that should be punished and not the person the provider potentially conned into paying for the service.
Furthermore, it all depends on how abortion is made "illegal." You are not going to see someone flip a legal switch overnight and all types of abortions at all stages are now illegal. That's simply not going to happen. What you will see is a series of measures on the one side dedicated to the safety of the woman seeking the abortion (the joke about "illegal" abortions is that most "legal" abortions are done in extremely unsafe and unsanitary environments with very little access to emergency medical assistance and are probably no better - if not worse - than illegal places before the Supreme Court stepped in) and the considerations of the unborn child. Example: Utah Governor Signs Bill Requiring Abortion Anesthesia After 20 Weeks In this case violations in the law are effectively violations in standards, and thus is not the fault of the patient.
muy_thaiguy wrote:Well, Trump done fucked up. Said all women that had an abortion should be punished. Even hardcore anti-abortion conservatives were turned off by that comment. He later "recants", but damage has been done.
It's a fair comment. If someone thinks abortion is akin to murder, why punish the abortion doctor but do nothing to the woman who asked for the abortion? Why is the woman absolved of murder while the doctor is still hauled off and thrown in jail?
And also, why is it okay for politician after politician to say that abortion should be outlawed and abortion doctors punished, but as soon as one says the mother should also be punished he's the antichrist?
Yeah, I've come across a not insignificant portion of lifers who wish criminal charges would be pressed on abortion providers and women who get them.
Another religion in govt example, illegal is illegal, It would be the equivalent of catching a drug deal in progress and only charging one or the other not both
Or a murder suspect being caught and charging the victim with a crime.
On the other hand its legal right now, hey religious freaks leave it be, you don't get to choose for everyone, that's part of the reason you choose to live here,
Show me in any religion where it specifically says God or whoever said no abortions
Glenn Beck is a Mormon. Mormons believe that America is divine. They also believed that Jesus visited the Americas.
The Book of Mormon is the earliest of the unique writings of the Latter Day Saint movement, the denominations of which typically regard the text primarily as scripture, and secondarily as a historical record of God's dealings with the ancient inhabitants of the Americas.[12]
Teachings about political theology The book delves into political theology within a Christian or Jewish context. Among these themes are American exceptionalism. According to the book, the Americas are portrayed as a "land of promise", the world's most exceptional land of the time.[86] Source Wikipedia 12 & 86
So if you want to understand Glenn then you must look at the American Experience as divine. Not just a country but a Theology/Religiously inspired country and people. His religion was also started by Freemasons.
warmonger1981 wrote:Glenn Beck is a Mormon. Mormons believe that America is divine. They also believed that Jesus visited the Americas.
The Book of Mormon is the earliest of the unique writings of the Latter Day Saint movement, the denominations of which typically regard the text primarily as scripture, and secondarily as a historical record of God's dealings with the ancient inhabitants of the Americas.[12]
Teachings about political theology The book delves into political theology within a Christian or Jewish context. Among these themes are American exceptionalism. According to the book, the Americas are portrayed as a "land of promise", the world's most exceptional land of the time.[86] Source Wikipedia 12 & 86
So if you want to understand Glenn then you must look at the American Experience as divine. Not just a country but a Theology/Religiously inspired country and people. His religion was also started by Freemasons.
Boogy boogy!
And tell me where in the book of Mormon it says God says no abortions specifically
And on a side note golden plates written in Egyptian? Really you got to be fucking kidding, why Egyptian? That makes no sense at all except to beguile the uneducated into believing another religious lie, sorta like the stone tablets the ten commandments were written on, never to be seen again by anyone, b.s. plagarism at the least, vile blasphemy on the other hand.
In 2000, Nelson worked on the Bush for President campaign, where she met her future husband Ted Cruz.[5] Following her marriage to Cruz in 2001, she went on to work for the Bush Administration as a top deputy to U.S. Trade Rep. Robert Zoellick, focusing on economic policy.[17][5][3][18] Cruz eventually became the director for the Western Hemisphere on the National Security Council under National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice in 2003.[17][5][3][16][19] During a New York Times interview, Cruz recalled enjoying her tenure with the Bush administration and found her work to be "personally fulfilling."[20] Cruz has worked for three investment banks, JP Morgan Chase, Merrill Lynch, and Goldman Sachs.[23][2] Wikipedia source
She also was a member of the CFR. She also helped draft NAFTA. She is a globalist.
muy_thaiguy wrote:Well, Trump done fucked up. Said all women that had an abortion should be punished. Even hardcore anti-abortion conservatives were turned off by that comment. He later "recants", but damage has been done.
It's a fair comment. If someone thinks abortion is akin to murder, why punish the abortion doctor but do nothing to the woman who asked for the abortion? Why is the woman absolved of murder while the doctor is still hauled off and thrown in jail?
And also, why is it okay for politician after politician to say that abortion should be outlawed and abortion doctors punished, but as soon as one says the mother should also be punished he's the antichrist?
Well said.
El Capitan X wrote:The people in flame wars just seem to get dimmer and dimmer. Seriously though, I love your style, always a good read.
mrswdk wrote:It's a fair comment. If someone thinks abortion is akin to murder, why punish the abortion doctor but do nothing to the woman who asked for the abortion? Why is the woman absolved of murder while the doctor is still hauled off and thrown in jail?
It depends. But in general it is the provider of a service that should be punished and not the person the provider potentially conned into paying for the service.
A doctor conned a woman into having an abortion.
I am sure that happens all the time.
Give me a break.
El Capitan X wrote:The people in flame wars just seem to get dimmer and dimmer. Seriously though, I love your style, always a good read.
mrswdk wrote:It's a fair comment. If someone thinks abortion is akin to murder, why punish the abortion doctor but do nothing to the woman who asked for the abortion? Why is the woman absolved of murder while the doctor is still hauled off and thrown in jail?
It depends. But in general it is the provider of a service that should be punished and not the person the provider potentially conned into paying for the service.
A doctor conned a woman into having an abortion.
I am sure that happens all the time.
Give me a break.
Indeed, I'm interested in how this particular line of thought plays out with regards to murder. If someone truly believes that abortion is "murder", does this mean that I can hire a hitman and claim that only the hitman can be punished?
It's fascinating how easily anti-choice rhetoric falls apart.
the world is in greater peril from those who tolerate or encourage evil than from those who actually commit it- Albert Einstein
mrswdk wrote:It's a fair comment. If someone thinks abortion is akin to murder, why punish the abortion doctor but do nothing to the woman who asked for the abortion? Why is the woman absolved of murder while the doctor is still hauled off and thrown in jail?
It depends. But in general it is the provider of a service that should be punished and not the person the provider potentially conned into paying for the service.
A doctor conned a woman into having an abortion.
I am sure that happens all the time.
Give me a break.
Indeed, I'm interested in how this particular line of thought plays out with regards to murder. If someone truly believes that abortion is "murder", does this mean that I can hire a hitman and claim that only the hitman can be punished?
It's fascinating how easily anti-choice rhetoric falls apart.
Go a step further, get a good lawyer, hire the hitman to get rid of someone you don't like, if you get caught, your defense is late term abortion or insanity whichever you choose.
